No, you are not still number 23. You are 14th in terms of percentage of doses administered. You are 3rd in doses adminstered. And you are 1st in doses adminstered per capita (leading the nation).Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:23 pmAre we still number 23? ...Not leading the nation as your bullshitting about? Yea....thought so.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:17 pmDo you know how to compare the number 774,485 to 1,125,053? That would be a 45% increase in 4 days. So, yeah, 4 days make a difference.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:52 pm Oh my god its 4 days old.....lol So much has changed....lol You are such a joke. If I said the sky was blue you would argue with me. I live here asshole.....I think I know what is going on. DeSantis is an unqualified piece of shit just like his god trump and everything coming out of his mouth is bullshit. Fuck off.
Of course, since its just hate for republicans that drives your mini-mind, then nothing would change your view short of having a black woman explain it to you.
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link?Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:29 pmNo, you are not still number 23. You are 14th in terms of percentage of doses administered. You are 3rd in doses adminstered. And you are 1st in doses adminstered per capita (leading the nation).Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:23 pmAre we still number 23? ...Not leading the nation as your bullshitting about? Yea....thought so.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:17 pmDo you know how to compare the number 774,485 to 1,125,053? That would be a 45% increase in 4 days. So, yeah, 4 days make a difference.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:52 pm Oh my god its 4 days old.....lol So much has changed....lol You are such a joke. If I said the sky was blue you would argue with me. I live here asshole.....I think I know what is going on. DeSantis is an unqualified piece of shit just like his god trump and everything coming out of his mouth is bullshit. Fuck off.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covi ... tribution/Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:29 pmlink?Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:29 pmNo, you are not still number 23. You are 14th in terms of percentage of doses administered. You are 3rd in doses adminstered. And you are 1st in doses adminstered per capita (leading the nation).Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:23 pmAre we still number 23? ...Not leading the nation as your bullshitting about? Yea....thought so.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:17 pmDo you know how to compare the number 774,485 to 1,125,053? That would be a 45% increase in 4 days. So, yeah, 4 days make a difference.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:52 pm Oh my god its 4 days old.....lol So much has changed....lol You are such a joke. If I said the sky was blue you would argue with me. I live here asshole.....I think I know what is going on. DeSantis is an unqualified piece of shit just like his god trump and everything coming out of his mouth is bullshit. Fuck off.
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Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:35 pmhttps://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covi ... tribution/Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:29 pmlink?Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:29 pmNo, you are not still number 23. You are 14th in terms of percentage of doses administered. You are 3rd in doses adminstered. And you are 1st in doses adminstered per capita (leading the nation).Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:23 pmAre we still number 23? ...Not leading the nation as your bullshitting about? Yea....thought so.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:17 pmDo you know how to compare the number 774,485 to 1,125,053? That would be a 45% increase in 4 days. So, yeah, 4 days make a difference.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:52 pm Oh my god its 4 days old.....lol So much has changed....lol You are such a joke. If I said the sky was blue you would argue with me. I live here asshole.....I think I know what is going on. DeSantis is an unqualified piece of shit just like his god trump and everything coming out of his mouth is bullshit. Fuck off.
Of course, since its just hate for republicans that drives your mini-mind, then nothing would change your view short of having a black woman explain it to you.
and just a quick hover over that map I see
Florida 5.24 doses administered per 100 people
West Virginia 8.58 per 100
New Mexico 6.56 per 100
South Dakota 6.56 per 100
North Dakota 6.95 per 100
Maine is higher
Vermont is higher
Indiana is higher.
Not number one per capita......stop playing numbers games to prove your point. Florida isn't North Dakota. It has a 1000xs more hospitials, medical personnel and resources.........It should be doing doing way better. Stop your nonsense please.
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Look at the top of the chart. Florida is at nearly 1 million doses administered. Out of the top states, they aren't as big as Texas or California and yet they have administered nearly as many doses.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:50 pmAnimal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:35 pmhttps://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covi ... tribution/Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:29 pmlink?Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:29 pmNo, you are not still number 23. You are 14th in terms of percentage of doses administered. You are 3rd in doses adminstered. And you are 1st in doses adminstered per capita (leading the nation).Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:23 pmAre we still number 23? ...Not leading the nation as your bullshitting about? Yea....thought so.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:17 pm
Do you know how to compare the number 774,485 to 1,125,053? That would be a 45% increase in 4 days. So, yeah, 4 days make a difference.
Of course, since its just hate for republicans that drives your mini-mind, then nothing would change your view short of having a black woman explain it to you.
and just a quick hover over that map I see
Florida 5.24 doses administered per 100 people
West Virginia 8.58 per 100
New Mexico 6.56 per 100
South Dakota 6.56 per 100
North Dakota 6.95 per 100
Maine is higher
Vermont is higher
Indiana is higher.
Not number one per capita......stop playing numbers games to prove your point. Florida isn't North Dakota. It has a 1000xs more hospitials, medical personnel and resources.........It should be doing doing way better. Stop your nonsense please.
you are just a whining cunt that can't stand anything a republican does. your state is getting great praise for being one of the few states that actually targets the 65 and older population for the vaccine. In fact, most states are changing their criteria so that they up that age group's vaccine rate. Target the ones most likely to die if they get it. That is becoming the rule, thanks to Florida.
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NY isn't even on that 23 list, and they're crying "we don't have enough vaccine!"?
Their Governor was trying to blackmail Pfizer to get more?
P.S. A whole lot of politicking and political blame-shifting going on? Cuomo appears to be a whiner.
https://nypost.com/2021/01/19/gov-cuomo ... state-aid/
Their Governor was trying to blackmail Pfizer to get more?
P.S. A whole lot of politicking and political blame-shifting going on? Cuomo appears to be a whiner.
https://nypost.com/2021/01/19/gov-cuomo ... state-aid/
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FSchmertz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:40 pm NY isn't even on that 23 list, and they're crying "we don't have enough vaccine!"?
Their Governor was trying to blackmail Pfizer to get more?
P.S. A whole lot of politicking and political blame-shifting going on? Cuomo appears to be a whiner.
https://nypost.com/2021/01/19/gov-cuomo ... state-aid/
Maybe they don't have enough vaccine? The lying piece of shit trump administration told all these governors that they were going to release all the reserve vaccines that were being held back. In anticipation the states started setting up appointments only to be told that the reserves never existed and that its been exhausted since December. Azar should be put on trial.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN29K2H4
Trump administration accused of deception in pledging release of vaccine stockpile
NEW YORK/LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The governors of several states accused the Trump administration on Friday of deception in pledging to immediately distribute millions of COVID-19 vaccine doses from a stockpile that the U.S. health secretary has since acknowledged does not exist.
Confusion over a vaccine supply windfall that was promised to governors but failed to materialize arose as scattered shortages emerged on the frontlines of the most ambitious and complex immunization campaign in U.S. history, prompting at least one large New York healthcare system to cancel a slew of inoculation appointments.
Just 10.6 million Americans have received a shot since federal regulators last month granted emergency approval to two vaccines, one from Pfizer Inc and BioNTech and a second from Moderna Inc, the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported.
That tally falls far short of the 20 million vaccinations the Trump administration had promised to administer by the end of 2020, as the COVID-19 pandemic raged virtually unchecked with ever-increasing record numbers of infections, hospitalizations and deaths.
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines each require an initial dose and a booster shot given about three weeks apart.
Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar had said on Tuesday that the administration would release millions of doses it had been holding in reserve for booster shots in order to help spur a sluggish rollout of first doses to those most in need of the vaccine.
Azar said then that the administration was confident enough in the supply chain to release its stockpile, and urged states to use the additional supply to open inoculations to everyone aged 65 and over.
‘DECEPTION ON A NATIONAL SCALE’
Many states obliged, but on Friday a number of governors said they were dismayed to learn that no stockpile existed.
“Last night I received disturbing news, confirmed to me directly by General (Gustave) Perna of Operation Warp Speed: states will not be receiving increased shipments of vaccines from the national stockpile next week, because there is no federal reserve of doses,” Oregon Governor Kate Brown said on Twitter.
“This is a deception on a national scale,” Brown added, demanding an explanation from the outgoing administration.
The Washington Post reported on Friday that the federal government ran down its vaccine reserve in late December and has no remaining reserves of doses on hand.
California Governor Gavin Newsom, appearing at Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles for the opening of a mass-inoculation site, said Azar and Vice President Mike Pence had committed on a conference call this week with governors to releasing a vaccine reserve that Newsom said had included some 50 million doses stored in Michigan.
“And then we read, as everybody else, that they have reneged on that, or for whatever reason are unable to deliver on that,” Newsom said.
Brown and Newsom’s comments were echoed by at least eight other governors, most of them fellow Democrats, including Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers, who called the situation a “slap in the face.” Colorado Governor Jared Polis said he was “extremely disappointed” that Azar had “lied to” his state.
Azar suggested in an interview with NBC News on Friday that the doses in question had already been allocated to the states.
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Here's the problem stupid. There was never a "federal stockpile" of reserve vaccine. The states already had it. They had been shipped all of it and they were holding half of it in reserve for the 2nd doses. They knew this. That's why up until a few weeks ago, no state was over 50% of the amount injected, because they had to hold half of it back for the 2nd doses.
What the Trump admin did was get the FDA to drop that requirement on holding back the reserves for 2nd doses. So, the states were then able to start using all of what they had on hand. But, as all democrats do, they twisted that story to make it sound as if they expected 2x more vaccine to be coming all of a sudden. It made the perfect media story to try to make Trump look bad.
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Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:29 pmHere's the problem stupid. There was never a "federal stockpile" of reserve vaccine. The states already had it. They had been shipped all of it and they were holding half of it in reserve for the 2nd doses. They knew this. That's why up until a few weeks ago, no state was over 50% of the amount injected, because they had to hold half of it back for the 2nd doses.
What the Trump admin did was get the FDA to drop that requirement on holding back the reserves for 2nd doses. So, the states were then able to start using all of what they had on hand. But, as all democrats do, they twisted that story to make it sound as if they expected 2x more vaccine to be coming all of a sudden. It made the perfect media story to try to make Trump look bad.
Ummm...no. I know its hard for you to take that trump cock out of your mouth but us normal people see the lies and deceptions. Its very plain and always has been. You just choose to never acknowledge.
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Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said on Tuesday that the government would begin releasing doses of vaccine that were being held in “physical reserve” to ensure enough supply for second doses.
Both federally approved vaccines, made by Pfizer and Moderna, are administered in two shots spaced several weeks apart.
The Washington Post reported on Friday that despite Azar’s comments, no such federal stockpile of vaccines exists. The newspaper, citing state and federal officials, said the Trump administration had already started shipping its available supply in December.
Pretty black and white Flumpy. They talk out of the sides of their mouth and they have been all year.
Both federally approved vaccines, made by Pfizer and Moderna, are administered in two shots spaced several weeks apart.
The Washington Post reported on Friday that despite Azar’s comments, no such federal stockpile of vaccines exists. The newspaper, citing state and federal officials, said the Trump administration had already started shipping its available supply in December.
Pretty black and white Flumpy. They talk out of the sides of their mouth and they have been all year.
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I'm going with "a misunderstanding" on the part of Governors, though it's also possible it's purposeful, because the Governors don't want to look bad when they over-committed to folks outside their previous 1a & 1b categories. Blame shifting?Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:29 pmHere's the problem stupid. There was never a "federal stockpile" of reserve vaccine. The states already had it. They had been shipped all of it and they were holding half of it in reserve for the 2nd doses. They knew this. That's why up until a few weeks ago, no state was over 50% of the amount injected, because they had to hold half of it back for the 2nd doses.
What the Trump admin did was get the FDA to drop that requirement on holding back the reserves for 2nd doses. So, the states were then able to start using all of what they had on hand. But, as all democrats do, they twisted that story to make it sound as if they expected 2x more vaccine to be coming all of a sudden. It made the perfect media story to try to make Trump look bad.
And the Feds seem to consider a reserve held by the States as being held by the government. When you shift responsibility to the States, you shouldn't claim to have any federal control over that, other than being an adviser. The States are following Fed guidelines because they don't really HAVE anything else to follow.
Though maybe the REAL issue is the Fed's recommendation to vaccinate others, when they should've known there were insufficient vaccination supplies right now to do all of that?
P.S. But I do recall someone saying that it might take 8 weeks to get all those folks vaccinated. Maybe the Govs and their citizens seem to have forgotten that?
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FSchmertz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:58 pmI'm going with "a misunderstanding" on the part of Governors, though it's also possible it's purposeful, because the Governors don't want to look bad when they over-committed to folks outside their previous 1a & 1b categories. Blame shifting?Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:29 pmHere's the problem stupid. There was never a "federal stockpile" of reserve vaccine. The states already had it. They had been shipped all of it and they were holding half of it in reserve for the 2nd doses. They knew this. That's why up until a few weeks ago, no state was over 50% of the amount injected, because they had to hold half of it back for the 2nd doses.
What the Trump admin did was get the FDA to drop that requirement on holding back the reserves for 2nd doses. So, the states were then able to start using all of what they had on hand. But, as all democrats do, they twisted that story to make it sound as if they expected 2x more vaccine to be coming all of a sudden. It made the perfect media story to try to make Trump look bad.
Though maybe the REAL issue is the Fed's recommendation to vaccinate others, when they should've known there were insufficient vaccination supplies right now to do all of that?
P.S. But I do recall someone saying that it might take 8 weeks to get all those folks vaccinated. Maybe the Govs and their citizens seem to have forgotten that?
I'm going with out right lying to make themselves look good. Then when the Biden administration announced they were going to release the reserves they had to come clean. Now what you are seeing from azar is the usual republican deny, deflect and blame democratic governors. He is a piece of shit just like the whole outgoing garbage dump
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We sure could use a whole lot less political shit and a whole lot more cooperation for this vaccination effort. This CAN'T be done by the States alone. Enough with the blaming, time to get shit done.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:01 pmFSchmertz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:58 pmI'm going with "a misunderstanding" on the part of Governors, though it's also possible it's purposeful, because the Governors don't want to look bad when they over-committed to folks outside their previous 1a & 1b categories. Blame shifting?Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:29 pmHere's the problem stupid. There was never a "federal stockpile" of reserve vaccine. The states already had it. They had been shipped all of it and they were holding half of it in reserve for the 2nd doses. They knew this. That's why up until a few weeks ago, no state was over 50% of the amount injected, because they had to hold half of it back for the 2nd doses.
What the Trump admin did was get the FDA to drop that requirement on holding back the reserves for 2nd doses. So, the states were then able to start using all of what they had on hand. But, as all democrats do, they twisted that story to make it sound as if they expected 2x more vaccine to be coming all of a sudden. It made the perfect media story to try to make Trump look bad.
Though maybe the REAL issue is the Fed's recommendation to vaccinate others, when they should've known there were insufficient vaccination supplies right now to do all of that?
P.S. But I do recall someone saying that it might take 8 weeks to get all those folks vaccinated. Maybe the Govs and their citizens seem to have forgotten that?
I'm going with out right lying to make themselves look good. Then when the Biden administration announced they were going to release the reserves they had to come clean. Now what you are seeing from azar is the usual republican deny, deflect and blame democratic governors. He is a piece of shit just like the whole outgoing garbage dump
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FSchmertz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:06 pmWe sure could use a whole lot less political shit and a whole lot more cooperation for this vaccination effort. This CAN'T be done by the States alone. Enough with the blaming, time to get shit done.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:01 pmFSchmertz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:58 pmI'm going with "a misunderstanding" on the part of Governors, though it's also possible it's purposeful, because the Governors don't want to look bad when they over-committed to folks outside their previous 1a & 1b categories. Blame shifting?Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:29 pmHere's the problem stupid. There was never a "federal stockpile" of reserve vaccine. The states already had it. They had been shipped all of it and they were holding half of it in reserve for the 2nd doses. They knew this. That's why up until a few weeks ago, no state was over 50% of the amount injected, because they had to hold half of it back for the 2nd doses.
What the Trump admin did was get the FDA to drop that requirement on holding back the reserves for 2nd doses. So, the states were then able to start using all of what they had on hand. But, as all democrats do, they twisted that story to make it sound as if they expected 2x more vaccine to be coming all of a sudden. It made the perfect media story to try to make Trump look bad.
Though maybe the REAL issue is the Fed's recommendation to vaccinate others, when they should've known there were insufficient vaccination supplies right now to do all of that?
P.S. But I do recall someone saying that it might take 8 weeks to get all those folks vaccinated. Maybe the Govs and their citizens seem to have forgotten that?
I'm going with out right lying to make themselves look good. Then when the Biden administration announced they were going to release the reserves they had to come clean. Now what you are seeing from azar is the usual republican deny, deflect and blame democratic governors. He is a piece of shit just like the whole outgoing garbage dump
Enter President Joe fucking Biden
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Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:07 pmFSchmertz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:06 pmWe sure could use a whole lot less political shit and a whole lot more cooperation for this vaccination effort. This CAN'T be done by the States alone. Enough with the blaming, time to get shit done.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:01 pmFSchmertz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:58 pmI'm going with "a misunderstanding" on the part of Governors, though it's also possible it's purposeful, because the Governors don't want to look bad when they over-committed to folks outside their previous 1a & 1b categories. Blame shifting?Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:29 pmHere's the problem stupid. There was never a "federal stockpile" of reserve vaccine. The states already had it. They had been shipped all of it and they were holding half of it in reserve for the 2nd doses. They knew this. That's why up until a few weeks ago, no state was over 50% of the amount injected, because they had to hold half of it back for the 2nd doses.
What the Trump admin did was get the FDA to drop that requirement on holding back the reserves for 2nd doses. So, the states were then able to start using all of what they had on hand. But, as all democrats do, they twisted that story to make it sound as if they expected 2x more vaccine to be coming all of a sudden. It made the perfect media story to try to make Trump look bad.
Though maybe the REAL issue is the Fed's recommendation to vaccinate others, when they should've known there were insufficient vaccination supplies right now to do all of that?
P.S. But I do recall someone saying that it might take 8 weeks to get all those folks vaccinated. Maybe the Govs and their citizens seem to have forgotten that?
I'm going with out right lying to make themselves look good. Then when the Biden administration announced they were going to release the reserves they had to come clean. Now what you are seeing from azar is the usual republican deny, deflect and blame democratic governors. He is a piece of shit just like the whole outgoing garbage dump
Enter President Joe fucking Biden
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Its a great day when leftists are cheering for Biden and shilling for Big Pharma. I wonder if they know how ridiculous they sound?
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It's called being a team player
I'd be happy with President Bernie fucking Sanders
President Elizabeth fucking Warren and even
President Pete fucking Boogabooga
Not like some bitch who was willing to vote for trump if his guy didnt get the nom. Sad motherfucker.
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Team player? Try youre a fucking sheep.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:14 pmIt's called being a team player
I'd be happy with President Bernie fucking Sanders
President Elizabeth fucking Warren and even
President Pete fucking Boogabooga
Not like some bitch who was willing to vote for trump if his guy didnt get the nom. Sad motherfucker.
Now shill for Big Pharma and the ACA insurance requirement. I see some nice upsides in health insurance equities
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It is pretty black and white. "Releasing doses" means that the ones being saved can now be used. "Physical reserve" means they were in freezers in various state facilities (hospitals). It couldn't be any more clear. It never meant there was some secret warehouse the government owned where they had been stockpiling 2x the amount on ice to wait for the FDA to approve it.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:55 pm Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said on Tuesday that the government would begin releasing doses of vaccine that were being held in “physical reserve” to ensure enough supply for second doses.
Both federally approved vaccines, made by Pfizer and Moderna, are administered in two shots spaced several weeks apart.
The Washington Post reported on Friday that despite Azar’s comments, no such federal stockpile of vaccines exists. The newspaper, citing state and federal officials, said the Trump administration had already started shipping its available supply in December.
Pretty black and white Flumpy. They talk out of the sides of their mouth and they have been all year.
The doses were already there, they just weren't released to be used yet. The states new this when they made up the story to cry foul. Its what they do.
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Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:18 pmIt is pretty black and white. "Releasing doses" means that the ones being saved can now be used. "Physical reserve" means they were in freezers in various state facilities (hospitals). It couldn't be any more clear. It never meant there was some secret warehouse the government owned where they had been stockpiling 2x the amount on ice to wait for the FDA to approve it.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:55 pm Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said on Tuesday that the government would begin releasing doses of vaccine that were being held in “physical reserve” to ensure enough supply for second doses.
Both federally approved vaccines, made by Pfizer and Moderna, are administered in two shots spaced several weeks apart.
The Washington Post reported on Friday that despite Azar’s comments, no such federal stockpile of vaccines exists. The newspaper, citing state and federal officials, said the Trump administration had already started shipping its available supply in December.
Pretty black and white Flumpy. They talk out of the sides of their mouth and they have been all year.
The doses were already there, they just weren't released to be used yet. The states new this when they made up the story to cry foul. Its what they do.
LOL.. You're something else. If the narrative isn't there by God you will create one. Amazing.
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I know this will be difficult for you, but try to look at the story without allowing your bias to warp the information.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:22 pmAnimal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:18 pmIt is pretty black and white. "Releasing doses" means that the ones being saved can now be used. "Physical reserve" means they were in freezers in various state facilities (hospitals). It couldn't be any more clear. It never meant there was some secret warehouse the government owned where they had been stockpiling 2x the amount on ice to wait for the FDA to approve it.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:55 pm Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said on Tuesday that the government would begin releasing doses of vaccine that were being held in “physical reserve” to ensure enough supply for second doses.
Both federally approved vaccines, made by Pfizer and Moderna, are administered in two shots spaced several weeks apart.
The Washington Post reported on Friday that despite Azar’s comments, no such federal stockpile of vaccines exists. The newspaper, citing state and federal officials, said the Trump administration had already started shipping its available supply in December.
Pretty black and white Flumpy. They talk out of the sides of their mouth and they have been all year.
The doses were already there, they just weren't released to be used yet. The states new this when they made up the story to cry foul. Its what they do.
LOL.. You're something else. If the narrative isn't there by God you will create one. Amazing.
You'll see Animal is correct.
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Re: Vaccine Tracker
Antknot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:27 pmI know this will be difficult for you, but try to look at the story without allowing your bias to warp the information.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:22 pmAnimal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:18 pmIt is pretty black and white. "Releasing doses" means that the ones being saved can now be used. "Physical reserve" means they were in freezers in various state facilities (hospitals). It couldn't be any more clear. It never meant there was some secret warehouse the government owned where they had been stockpiling 2x the amount on ice to wait for the FDA to approve it.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:55 pm Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said on Tuesday that the government would begin releasing doses of vaccine that were being held in “physical reserve” to ensure enough supply for second doses.
Both federally approved vaccines, made by Pfizer and Moderna, are administered in two shots spaced several weeks apart.
The Washington Post reported on Friday that despite Azar’s comments, no such federal stockpile of vaccines exists. The newspaper, citing state and federal officials, said the Trump administration had already started shipping its available supply in December.
Pretty black and white Flumpy. They talk out of the sides of their mouth and they have been all year.
The doses were already there, they just weren't released to be used yet. The states new this when they made up the story to cry foul. Its what they do.
LOL.. You're something else. If the narrative isn't there by God you will create one. Amazing.
You'll see Animal is correct.
Why?
Because Animal and Joe the mechanic said it was? LOL
I blame Biker.
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Re: Vaccine Tracker
My version makes one hell of a lot more sense. When, during any of this, have you heard that the Federal government was creating some big freezer room stockpile to hold half of all of the doses shipped to the states? Never.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:22 pmAnimal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:18 pmIt is pretty black and white. "Releasing doses" means that the ones being saved can now be used. "Physical reserve" means they were in freezers in various state facilities (hospitals). It couldn't be any more clear. It never meant there was some secret warehouse the government owned where they had been stockpiling 2x the amount on ice to wait for the FDA to approve it.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:55 pm Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said on Tuesday that the government would begin releasing doses of vaccine that were being held in “physical reserve” to ensure enough supply for second doses.
Both federally approved vaccines, made by Pfizer and Moderna, are administered in two shots spaced several weeks apart.
The Washington Post reported on Friday that despite Azar’s comments, no such federal stockpile of vaccines exists. The newspaper, citing state and federal officials, said the Trump administration had already started shipping its available supply in December.
Pretty black and white Flumpy. They talk out of the sides of their mouth and they have been all year.
The doses were already there, they just weren't released to be used yet. The states new this when they made up the story to cry foul. Its what they do.
LOL.. You're something else. If the narrative isn't there by God you will create one. Amazing.
They shipped every single dose to the states and the FDA told them to hold half of them in reserve for 2nd doses. Plain and simple. No one on earth would have come up with a different plan than that and you know it.
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Re: Vaccine Tracker
Animal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:39 pmMy version makes one hell of a lot more sense. When, during any of this, have you heard that the Federal government was creating some big freezer room stockpile to hold half of all of the doses shipped to the states? Never.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:22 pmAnimal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:18 pmIt is pretty black and white. "Releasing doses" means that the ones being saved can now be used. "Physical reserve" means they were in freezers in various state facilities (hospitals). It couldn't be any more clear. It never meant there was some secret warehouse the government owned where they had been stockpiling 2x the amount on ice to wait for the FDA to approve it.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:55 pm Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said on Tuesday that the government would begin releasing doses of vaccine that were being held in “physical reserve” to ensure enough supply for second doses.
Both federally approved vaccines, made by Pfizer and Moderna, are administered in two shots spaced several weeks apart.
The Washington Post reported on Friday that despite Azar’s comments, no such federal stockpile of vaccines exists. The newspaper, citing state and federal officials, said the Trump administration had already started shipping its available supply in December.
Pretty black and white Flumpy. They talk out of the sides of their mouth and they have been all year.
The doses were already there, they just weren't released to be used yet. The states new this when they made up the story to cry foul. Its what they do.
LOL.. You're something else. If the narrative isn't there by God you will create one. Amazing.
They shipped every single dose to the states and the FDA told them to hold half of them in reserve for 2nd doses. Plain and simple. No one on earth would have come up with a different plan than that and you know it.
Look El Jefe. Azar told all these fucking State Governors less than a week ago that there was a strategic reserve being held back to ensure second doses. It was a lie. They shipped all the fucking doses in December. It's very simple. They are incompetent. Dont know what they have and what they dont have and when they got caught in the lie the SPIN starts. You should know about the spin
I blame Biker.
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Re: Vaccine Tracker
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2 ... -covid-lie
Opinion: The final COVID lie
At a virtual press conference on Tuesday, Operation Warp Speed officials made an announcement that cheered U.S. governors.
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The federal government had been holding back millions of COVID-19 vaccine doses to ensure sufficient second doses for the people innoculated in the initial rollout. Now, officials said, the entire reserve would be released to states so it could be put to lifesaving use as soon as possible during the worst surge of the pandemic yet.
“Because we now have a consistent pace of production, we can now ship all of the doses that had been held in physical reserve,” U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said. To make sure this vaccine windfall would not go to waste, he urged states to expand eligibility for the vaccine to people over 65 and those of any age with a condition that makes them vulnerable to a COVID-19 infection.
It was good news, even if the announcement seemed to be prompted by a similar one made by President-elect Joe Biden’s team days earlier. But, as it turns out, it was too good to be true
“Last night, I received disturbing news, confirmed to me directly by General Perna of Operation Warp Speed: States will not be receiving increased shipments of vaccines from the national stockpile next week, because there is no federal reserve of doses,” Oregon’s Gov. Kate Brown tweeted Friday morning.
As the Washington Post reported on Friday, there is simply no storehouse of vaccines to release. And OWS officials knew that on Tuesday.
What they apparently meant was that the federal government wouldn’t hold back any future doses, a move made possible because vaccination production had become reliable.
But that was not at all clear from the press conference, or from what state officials were apparently told. “Governors were told repeatedly by @HHSgov there was a strategic reserve of vaccines, and this week, the American people were told it’d be released to increase supply of vaccine,” Washington Gov. Jay Inslee tweeted on Friday.
In response to the Warp Speed announcement, states such as Oregon and California expanded eligibility to people over 65, as Azar suggested. Word went out quickly and doctors’ office and clinics were flooded with calls from people seeking appointments to receive shots that don’t exist.
And who will take the blame for the federal government’s broken promise? It probably won’t be the soon-to-be-departed Operation Warp Speed team or the Trump White House, which once again has left the states twisting in the wind on the COVID-19 pandemic.
Opinion: The final COVID lie
At a virtual press conference on Tuesday, Operation Warp Speed officials made an announcement that cheered U.S. governors.
.
The federal government had been holding back millions of COVID-19 vaccine doses to ensure sufficient second doses for the people innoculated in the initial rollout. Now, officials said, the entire reserve would be released to states so it could be put to lifesaving use as soon as possible during the worst surge of the pandemic yet.
“Because we now have a consistent pace of production, we can now ship all of the doses that had been held in physical reserve,” U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said. To make sure this vaccine windfall would not go to waste, he urged states to expand eligibility for the vaccine to people over 65 and those of any age with a condition that makes them vulnerable to a COVID-19 infection.
It was good news, even if the announcement seemed to be prompted by a similar one made by President-elect Joe Biden’s team days earlier. But, as it turns out, it was too good to be true
“Last night, I received disturbing news, confirmed to me directly by General Perna of Operation Warp Speed: States will not be receiving increased shipments of vaccines from the national stockpile next week, because there is no federal reserve of doses,” Oregon’s Gov. Kate Brown tweeted Friday morning.
As the Washington Post reported on Friday, there is simply no storehouse of vaccines to release. And OWS officials knew that on Tuesday.
What they apparently meant was that the federal government wouldn’t hold back any future doses, a move made possible because vaccination production had become reliable.
But that was not at all clear from the press conference, or from what state officials were apparently told. “Governors were told repeatedly by @HHSgov there was a strategic reserve of vaccines, and this week, the American people were told it’d be released to increase supply of vaccine,” Washington Gov. Jay Inslee tweeted on Friday.
In response to the Warp Speed announcement, states such as Oregon and California expanded eligibility to people over 65, as Azar suggested. Word went out quickly and doctors’ office and clinics were flooded with calls from people seeking appointments to receive shots that don’t exist.
And who will take the blame for the federal government’s broken promise? It probably won’t be the soon-to-be-departed Operation Warp Speed team or the Trump White House, which once again has left the states twisting in the wind on the COVID-19 pandemic.
I blame Biker.