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This is why I have never taken WAR seriously
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Biker wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:03 pm This is why I have never taken WAR seriously
It's like TV ratings. It creates something of a measuring stick, but can't possibly tell the whole story.
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saltydog wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:37 am
Biker wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:03 pm This is why I have never taken WAR seriously
It's like TV ratings. It creates something of a measuring stick, but can't possibly tell the whole story.
I’m 53yo so I don’t subscribe to all the new analytics (although a lot of it is compelling) so I tend to be an eye test guy, especially when it comes to HOF candidates
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Biker wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:42 am
saltydog wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:37 am
Biker wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:03 pm This is why I have never taken WAR seriously
It's like TV ratings. It creates something of a measuring stick, but can't possibly tell the whole story.
I’m 53yo so I don’t subscribe to all the new analytics (although a lot of it is compelling) so I tend to be an eye test guy, especially when it comes to HOF candidates
The new analytics are mostly window dressing. It's gimmickry so spreadsheet nerds can have something tangible to hang their hats on.

I mean, is there ANY doubt that Pete Alonso hits the shit out of the baseball without having to know his exit velocity?
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saltydog wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:04 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:42 am
saltydog wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:37 am
Biker wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:03 pm This is why I have never taken WAR seriously
It's like TV ratings. It creates something of a measuring stick, but can't possibly tell the whole story.
I’m 53yo so I don’t subscribe to all the new analytics (although a lot of it is compelling) so I tend to be an eye test guy, especially when it comes to HOF candidates
The new analytics are mostly window dressing. It's gimmickry so spreadsheet nerds can have something tangible to hang their hats on.

I mean, is there ANY doubt that Pete Alonso hits the shit out of the baseball without having to know his exit velocity?
WAR is a hugely overrated stat.
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saltydog wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:04 pm I mean, is there ANY doubt that Pete Alonso hits the shit out of the baseball without having to know his exit velocity?
100%

The one new analytic I do like is spin rate on pitches. That means something
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Biker wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 2:25 pm
saltydog wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:04 pm I mean, is there ANY doubt that Pete Alonso hits the shit out of the baseball without having to know his exit velocity?
100%

The one new analytic I do like is spin rate on pitches. That means something
It's easier to apply "spin rate" to something like a bicycle tire spinning, or a wheel of a car to get people to understand how it translates to velocity.

The hitting metrics are just mostly garbage.
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:29 pm
saltydog wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:04 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:42 am
saltydog wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:37 am
Biker wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:03 pm This is why I have never taken WAR seriously
It's like TV ratings. It creates something of a measuring stick, but can't possibly tell the whole story.
I’m 53yo so I don’t subscribe to all the new analytics (although a lot of it is compelling) so I tend to be an eye test guy, especially when it comes to HOF candidates
The new analytics are mostly window dressing. It's gimmickry so spreadsheet nerds can have something tangible to hang their hats on.

I mean, is there ANY doubt that Pete Alonso hits the shit out of the baseball without having to know his exit velocity?
WAR is a hugely overrated stat.
I don't know if it's overrated. Have you seen the top 50 WAR of all time list. Pretty close to a top 50 of all time list based of merits. Like all stats, there can be anomalies.
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Burn1dwn wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 3:28 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:29 pm
saltydog wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:04 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:42 am
saltydog wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:37 am
Biker wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:03 pm This is why I have never taken WAR seriously
It's like TV ratings. It creates something of a measuring stick, but can't possibly tell the whole story.
I’m 53yo so I don’t subscribe to all the new analytics (although a lot of it is compelling) so I tend to be an eye test guy, especially when it comes to HOF candidates
The new analytics are mostly window dressing. It's gimmickry so spreadsheet nerds can have something tangible to hang their hats on.

I mean, is there ANY doubt that Pete Alonso hits the shit out of the baseball without having to know his exit velocity?
WAR is a hugely overrated stat.
I don't know if it's overrated. Have you seen the top 50 WAR of all time list. Pretty close to a top 50 of all time list based of merits. Like all stats, there can be anomalies.
Damn, pretty much a whos who of hall of Famers

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