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CaptQuint wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:25 am
QillerDaemon wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:23 am
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:42 pm
pork wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:36 pm why is the outlet upside-down
They really should be what you think as upside down. But people will not accept it.

https://www.archtoolbox.com/materials-s ... ive%20pins.
In my work as an IT specialist who used to visit a lot of medical and hospital offices, the ground pin up has become the way power outlets are installed now. As that site indicates, it both protects against metal coming in accidental contact with the plug and outlet (when such outlets are so close to oxygen outlets), and because the plugs do hold in place better that way than with the ground pin down. It makes sense, even if it looks wrong at first.
Tell that to the housewives, IT'S UPSIDE DOWN!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHH
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Antknot wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:39 am
CaptQuint wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:25 am
QillerDaemon wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:23 am
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:42 pm
pork wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:36 pm why is the outlet upside-down
They really should be what you think as upside down. But people will not accept it.

https://www.archtoolbox.com/materials-s ... ive%20pins.
In my work as an IT specialist who used to visit a lot of medical and hospital offices, the ground pin up has become the way power outlets are installed now. As that site indicates, it both protects against metal coming in accidental contact with the plug and outlet (when such outlets are so close to oxygen outlets), and because the plugs do hold in place better that way than with the ground pin down. It makes sense, even if it looks wrong at first.
Tell that to the housewives, IT'S UPSIDE DOWN!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHH
Blame the electric companies and Reddy Kilowatt

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reddy_Kilowatt
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Fucker don't even have a ground
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Fucker don't even have a ground
Florida electrical code didn't even specify grounded outlets until the early 80's, and it still took a few years for builders to comply in a lot of counties. It used to be easy to convince a building inspector to look the other with a little "donation" to the Code Enforcement ball. ;)

My house was built in the mid 40's, and we still have a few 2 prong outlets in use. Many but not all were replaced when the owner rewired the house in '82, and I've replaced a few since. He put in the right cabling for grounding, just re-used a lot of the original outlets. When my wife's second husband and her bought the house in '83, he replaced a few, but not all, but installed metal juncture boxes where there weren't any. It sometimes surprises me that this house hasn't burnt up yet. Yet...
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shit, i still remember my dad cutting those ground prongs off of plugs because our house wasn't wired for those kind of outlets. He would just snip them off and grumble something about how they "don't do anything". I also remember when cars started being built with the alarm that would go off if you opened the door with the key in the ignition. we would squirrel hunt and drive the country roads and he would open the door and that damn beeper would go off and he would get so pissed off.....

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My understanding from my uncle who was an electrician for 45 yrs was the grd plug is best on the bottom so that if a plug comes out of a socket the grd is the last to come out.
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I used to like the random sideways Outlet. Electric, coax, phone jack..... Like fuck it. Im doing my own thing.
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Stapes wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:21 am I used to like the random sideways Outlet. Electric, coax, phone jack..... Like fuck it. Im doing my own thing.
as a kid i always used to wonder why they just didn't make one kind of plug with a lot of prongs on it. and it could be an outlet, a phone, a tv, intercom, whatever. everything wired into the same plug in everyroom and then depending on the way your plug was wired going into it, that's what you got. does that make sense?
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Animal wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:23 am
Stapes wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:21 am I used to like the random sideways Outlet. Electric, coax, phone jack..... Like fuck it. Im doing my own thing.
as a kid i always used to wonder why they just didn't make one kind of plug with a lot of prongs on it. and it could be an outlet, a phone, a tv, intercom, whatever. everything wired into the same plug in everyroom and then depending on the way your plug was wired going into it, that's what you got. does that make sense?

Well I have seen Outlets with data (ethernet), coax and phone in the same Outlet.


I don't believe they can put electrical in there because it can cause attenuation on the lines if they run parallel........ not sure how real that is
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Stapes wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:27 am
Animal wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:23 am
Stapes wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:21 am I used to like the random sideways Outlet. Electric, coax, phone jack..... Like fuck it. Im doing my own thing.
as a kid i always used to wonder why they just didn't make one kind of plug with a lot of prongs on it. and it could be an outlet, a phone, a tv, intercom, whatever. everything wired into the same plug in everyroom and then depending on the way your plug was wired going into it, that's what you got. does that make sense?

Well I have seen Outlets with data (ethernet), coax and phone in the same Outlet.


I don't believe they can put electrical in there because it can cause attenuation on the lines if they run parallel........ not sure how real that is
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Animal wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:23 am
Stapes wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:21 am I used to like the random sideways Outlet. Electric, coax, phone jack..... Like fuck it. Im doing my own thing.
as a kid i always used to wonder why they just didn't make one kind of plug with a lot of prongs on it. and it could be an outlet, a phone, a tv, intercom, whatever. everything wired into the same plug in everyroom and then depending on the way your plug was wired going into it, that's what you got. does that make sense?
While not totally the same thing, I once had a cable contractor wire up a new installation so that a jack in a room could be used either for a network jack or a phone jack, depending on how it was patched back in the network closet. RJ11 or RJ12 (single or double pair phone lines) plugs can fit into an RJ45 jack, but it really isn't standard at all. This was before VOIP phones became more common and we still had proprietary phone systems in offices. It was really weird then, but pretty usual now, even though it technically still goes against the usual standard.
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It's just a safety ground anyway.

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I've cut out miles of that shit. I used to want an old house until I worked on old houses.
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