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Flumper wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:47 pm i had to google Cheap Trick to even figure out who they were. I recognized one song in their top 10 and i recognized their lead guitarist (the guy that dressed like a kid out of Our Gang).
At least Cheap Trick can be considered a rock band. But Gin Blossoms? 1-800-Come-On-Now.
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HighNDry wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:48 pm
Deathproof wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:45 pm
HighNDry wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:48 pm
Deathproof wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:46 pm I used to think the Hall of Fame was a fucking joke. But then Cheap Trick got in and legitimized it.
Legitimized it legitimized it, or legitimized it as a joke?
Legitimized it. It's not a rock hall of fame without the greatest rock band to ever exist. It got even more legit when they added Nirvana. Now they just need the Gin Blossoms and they'll have the three best bands of all time, and it will undeniably be a true rock hall of fame.
I’ll give you Cheap Trick and Nirvana, but saying the RnR HOF isn’t complete without Gin Blossoms is just crazy talk.
It's not.
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Gin Blossoms are a small step above Dave Matthews on the douche chills meter. Awful.
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Big Chiefin' wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:30 pm Gin Blossoms are a small step above Dave Matthews on the douche chills meter. Awful.
False. Musical geniuses.
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Deathproof wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:33 pm
Big Chiefin' wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:30 pm Gin Blossoms are a small step above Dave Matthews on the douche chills meter. Awful.
False. Musical geniuses.
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Drunk Blast wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:06 am
Deathproof wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:33 pm
Big Chiefin' wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:30 pm Gin Blossoms are a small step above Dave Matthews on the douche chills meter. Awful.
False. Musical geniuses.
Watch out, the dream police are coming for you
Seriously, DeathProof is living a dream thinking he's any type of musician. Why don't you post some music here DeathProof if you're any good? My grandfather had is own band back in the day and opened up for Frank Sinatra in NJ nightclubs on several occasions. I doubt DeathProof has done anything.
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FreakShowFanatic wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:55 am
Drunk Blast wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:06 am
Deathproof wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:33 pm
Big Chiefin' wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:30 pm Gin Blossoms are a small step above Dave Matthews on the douche chills meter. Awful.
False. Musical geniuses.
Watch out, the dream police are coming for you
Seriously, DeathProof is living a dream thinking he's any type of musician. Why don't you post some music here DeathProof if you're any good? My grandfather had is own band back in the day and opened up for Frank Sinatra in NJ nightclubs on several occasions. I doubt DeathProof has done anything.
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Deathproof wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:33 pm
Big Chiefin' wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:30 pm Gin Blossoms are a small step above Dave Matthews on the douche chills meter. Awful.
False. Musical geniuses.
I'd argue that the Gin Blossoms' body of work is too small for them to be included in the hall of fame.
Also the idea of a hall of fame for something that is completely subjective is ridiculous.
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spudoc wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:25 pm
Deathproof wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:33 pm
Big Chiefin' wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:30 pm Gin Blossoms are a small step above Dave Matthews on the douche chills meter. Awful.
False. Musical geniuses.
I'd argue that the Gin Blossoms' body of work is too small for them to be included in the hall of fame.
Also the idea of a hall of fame for something that is completely subjective is ridiculous.
Their body of work is larger than Nirvana's. Nirvana had three studio albums (Bleach, Nevermind, and In Utero), a rarities/b-sides collection (Incesticide), and three posthumous live albums (From the Muddy Banks of the Wishkah, MTV Unplugged in New York, and Live from Reading).
The Gin Blossoms have released six studio albums (Dusted, New Miserable Experience, Congratulations I'm Sorry, Major Lodge Victory, No Chocolate Cake, and Mixed Reality), two EPs (Shut Up & Smoke and Up & Crumbling), two live albums (Live in Concert and Just South of Nowhere), and a rarities/b-sides collection (New Miserable Experience Rarities Edition).

Also, if we want to talk about longetivity, Nirvana was active from 1987 to 1993. The Gin Blossoms were active from 1989 to 1997, and then again from 2000 to present.

Don't misunderstand me, I am a huge Nirvana fan, but by any metric, the Gin Blossoms are as deserving if not more deserving of a Hall of Fame spot.
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Ask somebody to name a Nirvana song: Smells like teen spirit

Ask somebody to name a gin blossoms song: Who?
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Stapes wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:08 pm Ask somebody to name a Nirvana song: Smells like teen spirit

Ask somebody to name a gin blossoms song: Who?
"Hey Jealousy", "Found Out About You", "Allison Road", "Til I Hear it from You", "Follow You Down", "Come on Hard", "As Long as it Matters"... another metric by which the Gin Blossoms come out on top: number of charting singles. Also, the Gin Blossoms still get radio play on mainstream radio, whereas Nirvana gets played on rock stations only.

Oh, and the Gin Blossoms have won a Grammy. Nirvana never did.
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Deathproof wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:04 pm Their body of work is larger than Nirvana's. Nirvana had three studio albums (Bleach, Nevermind, and In Utero), a rarities/b-sides collection (Incesticide), and three posthumous live albums (From the Muddy Banks of the Wishkah, MTV Unplugged in New York, and Live from Reading).
The Gin Blossoms have released six studio albums (Dusted, New Miserable Experience, Congratulations I'm Sorry, Major Lodge Victory, No Chocolate Cake, and Mixed Reality), two EPs (Shut Up & Smoke and Up & Crumbling), two live albums (Live in Concert and Just South of Nowhere), and a rarities/b-sides collection (New Miserable Experience Rarities Edition).

Also, if we want to talk about longetivity, Nirvana was active from 1987 to 1993. The Gin Blossoms were active from 1989 to 1997, and then again from 2000 to present.

Don't misunderstand me, I am a huge Nirvana fan, but by any metric, the Gin Blossoms are as deserving if not more deserving of a Hall of Fame spot.
do you realize that Hank Williams died when he was 29 years old? 29 fucking years old. this poor ass school dropout that was raised by his mother. have you ever sat and really read the words that he wrote in some of his songs? "why can't a free your doubtful mind, and melt your cold, cold heart?" No poet has ever written words so simply to make a point. "The silence of a falling star lights up a purple sky. And as I wonder where you are, I'm so lonesome I could cry".

gin blossom? get the fuck out of here.
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Flumper wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:22 pm
Deathproof wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:04 pm Their body of work is larger than Nirvana's. Nirvana had three studio albums (Bleach, Nevermind, and In Utero), a rarities/b-sides collection (Incesticide), and three posthumous live albums (From the Muddy Banks of the Wishkah, MTV Unplugged in New York, and Live from Reading).
The Gin Blossoms have released six studio albums (Dusted, New Miserable Experience, Congratulations I'm Sorry, Major Lodge Victory, No Chocolate Cake, and Mixed Reality), two EPs (Shut Up & Smoke and Up & Crumbling), two live albums (Live in Concert and Just South of Nowhere), and a rarities/b-sides collection (New Miserable Experience Rarities Edition).

Also, if we want to talk about longetivity, Nirvana was active from 1987 to 1993. The Gin Blossoms were active from 1989 to 1997, and then again from 2000 to present.

Don't misunderstand me, I am a huge Nirvana fan, but by any metric, the Gin Blossoms are as deserving if not more deserving of a Hall of Fame spot.
do you realize that Hank Williams died when he was 29 years old? 29 fucking years old. this poor ass school dropout that was raised by his mother. have you ever sat and really read the words that he wrote in some of his songs? "why can't a free your doubtful mind, and melt your cold, cold heart?" No poet has ever written words so simply to make a point. "The silence of a falling star lights up a purple sky. And as I wonder where you are, I'm so lonesome I could cry".

gin blossom? get the fuck out of here.
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Deathproof wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:18 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:08 pm Ask somebody to name a Nirvana song: Smells like teen spirit

Ask somebody to name a gin blossoms song: Who?
"Hey Jealousy", "Found Out About You", "Allison Road", "Til I Hear it from You", "Follow You Down", "Come on Hard", "As Long as it Matters"... another metric by which the Gin Blossoms come out on top: number of charting singles. Also, the Gin Blossoms still get radio play on mainstream radio, whereas Nirvana gets played on rock stations only.

Oh, and the Gin Blossoms have won a Grammy. Nirvana never did.

I'll bet you ask the average Joe who sang those songs they wouldn't know. They are like the male version of the Bangles. Easy to listen to ear candy and easily forgettable. Grammys? They didn't give Led Zeppelin one either until it was embarrassing
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Stapes wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:25 pm
Deathproof wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:18 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:08 pm Ask somebody to name a Nirvana song: Smells like teen spirit

Ask somebody to name a gin blossoms song: Who?
"Hey Jealousy", "Found Out About You", "Allison Road", "Til I Hear it from You", "Follow You Down", "Come on Hard", "As Long as it Matters"... another metric by which the Gin Blossoms come out on top: number of charting singles. Also, the Gin Blossoms still get radio play on mainstream radio, whereas Nirvana gets played on rock stations only.

Oh, and the Gin Blossoms have won a Grammy. Nirvana never did.

I'll bet you ask the average Joe who sang those songs they wouldn't know. They are like the male version of the Bangles. Easy to listen to ear candy and easily forgettable. Grammys? They didn't give Led Zeppelin one either until it was embarrassing
The average Joe is musically illiterate; hence the popularity of Metallica (the real male version of the Bangles).

People who know what good music is know the Gin Blossoms.
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I think I know what band DeathProof is in. :)
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Stapes wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:30 pm I think I know what band DeathProof is in. :)
You don't.
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Deathproof wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:24 pm
Flumper wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:22 pmdo you realize that Hank Williams died when he was 29 years old? 29 fucking years old. this poor ass school dropout that was raised by his mother. have you ever sat and really read the words that he wrote in some of his songs? "why can't a free your doubtful mind, and melt your cold, cold heart?" No poet has ever written words so simply to make a point. "The silence of a falling star lights up a purple sky. And as I wonder where you are, I'm so lonesome I could cry".

gin blossom? get the fuck out of here.
"She had nothing left to say, so she said she loved me. I stood there grateful for the lie." Doug Hopkins was better.
Hank Williams was on an airplane with Little Jimmy Dickens and Minnie Pearl and he told Dickens that he (Dickens) needed a hit song if he was going to be famous. Dickens agreed, so Hank said, "well, let's write you one. do you have any paper?" Minnie Pearl pulled out a pad and gave it to Hank and in 20 minutes Hank had written a song and handed it to Jimmy Dickens and told him to record it and it would be a hit. A week later, Hank called Dickens and told him that he had recorded his song. It was "Hey Good Lookin' "
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Flumper wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:32 pm
Deathproof wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:24 pm
Flumper wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:22 pmdo you realize that Hank Williams died when he was 29 years old? 29 fucking years old. this poor ass school dropout that was raised by his mother. have you ever sat and really read the words that he wrote in some of his songs? "why can't a free your doubtful mind, and melt your cold, cold heart?" No poet has ever written words so simply to make a point. "The silence of a falling star lights up a purple sky. And as I wonder where you are, I'm so lonesome I could cry".

gin blossom? get the fuck out of here.
"She had nothing left to say, so she said she loved me. I stood there grateful for the lie." Doug Hopkins was better.
Hank Williams was on an airplane with Little Jimmy Dickens and Minnie Pearl and he told Dickens that he (Dickens) needed a hit song if he was going to be famous. Dickens agreed, so Hank said, "well, let's write you one. do you have any paper?" Minnie Pearl pulled out a pad and gave it to Hank and in 20 minutes Hank had written a song and handed it to Jimmy Dickens and told him to record it and it would be a hit. A week later, Hank called Dickens and told him that he had recorded his song. It was "Hey Good Lookin' "
A week later Williams recorded it himself, jokingly telling Dickens, "That song's too good for you!
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Stapes wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:30 pm I think I know what band DeathProof is in. :)
Which one do ya think?

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megman wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:04 am
Stapes wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:30 pm I think I know what band DeathProof is in. :)
Which one do ya think?

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Anyone else wondering how the fuck outting your band on UJ for 20 people would be "throwing it all away"?

For the record teenage JCW *LOVED* Gin Blossoms. I will still sing "Found Out About You" on full volume, no fucks given.
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I lived in Scottsdale in the early 90's. The Gin Blossoms were big as they were out of Tempe.
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JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:15 am Anyone else wondering how the fuck outting your band on UJ for 20 people would be "throwing it all away"?

For the record teenage JCW *LOVED* Gin Blossoms. I will still sing "Found Out About You" on full volume, no fucks given.
The name of the band referred to the effect of excessive alcohol drinking on small capillaries (they break) on the nose and nearby face. Apparently based on a picture they saw of W.C. Fields' face.

Ironically, the band's lead guitarist and writer of many of their songs (including that one and "Hey Jealousy") had a bad alcohol problem, was kicked out of the band, and eventually shot himself while undergoing treatment.

P.S. The band (and Marshall Crenshaw) also wrote "Til I Hear It from You," which appeared in the film "Empire Records"
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JCW wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:15 am Anyone else wondering how the fuck outting your band on UJ for 20 people would be "throwing it all away"?

For the record teenage JCW *LOVED* Gin Blossoms. I will still sing "Found Out About You" on full volume, no fucks given.
I get it, he posts his band name here and it shows up in search results and people find it and read his posts and get upset because they don't like what he posts. He shouldn't post anything that can identify him.

It would be good for membership though.
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