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Wuhan Coronavirus
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Here's the good news report from the charts.
The increase in cases in the US seems to have leveled off again and it is EXACTLY on top of the peak of the acceleration in Italy. The model of Italy is really the only indication that this "might" be the peak of acceleration.
Italy and Spain and some of Europe seem to be continuing to show they are over the hump, even though they are still seeing new cases every day. italy should soon be down to a point where recoveries each day outnumber the new cases.
World wide deaths have gone down 2 days in a row (not much of a trend, but hope). I think NYCity has also seen a decrease in deaths the last day or two.
Although numbers in Texas are rising, Dallas has seen 4 days in a row where new cases were either flat or decreasing.
I only have ONE state in the USA that showed alarming numbers yesterday (an over 20% increase). Delaware. Other states that were over the "average" of increase (11%) were Louisiana, Puerto Rico, Pennsylvania, Vermont, Virginia, W Virginia, Washing DC.
I "think" that NY has reached the top of its acceleration. I know, statistically, its way too early to say that, but if we can depend on the model from Italy, its either now or ..........
The increase in cases in the US seems to have leveled off again and it is EXACTLY on top of the peak of the acceleration in Italy. The model of Italy is really the only indication that this "might" be the peak of acceleration.
Italy and Spain and some of Europe seem to be continuing to show they are over the hump, even though they are still seeing new cases every day. italy should soon be down to a point where recoveries each day outnumber the new cases.
World wide deaths have gone down 2 days in a row (not much of a trend, but hope). I think NYCity has also seen a decrease in deaths the last day or two.
Although numbers in Texas are rising, Dallas has seen 4 days in a row where new cases were either flat or decreasing.
I only have ONE state in the USA that showed alarming numbers yesterday (an over 20% increase). Delaware. Other states that were over the "average" of increase (11%) were Louisiana, Puerto Rico, Pennsylvania, Vermont, Virginia, W Virginia, Washing DC.
I "think" that NY has reached the top of its acceleration. I know, statistically, its way too early to say that, but if we can depend on the model from Italy, its either now or ..........
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you can't track deaths when you are looking for a slow down. the deaths are the last numbers to drop. you have to track new cases.
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This is one of the best one. You can click on a country like "Spain". then you scroll down and it will give graphs of new cases, deaths, recoveries, etc. Then you can do that for US or any other country. Also, you can look at "yesterday" numbers. Which is often the best place to look because they are true picture. The "today" numbers are adjusting all day long as data comes in. Even late in the afternoon, the today numbers will go up over night so you don't know the exact numbers until the next day when you look at "yesterday" numbers. If that makes sense.Biker wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:26 pmInteresting.
Where are you finding your source? Im curious as to how the US's chart looks like
The reason you can't track deaths is because once a person gets ICU sick with this disease, they can be kept alive on a ventilator for weeks. WEEKS. Like 3 weeks sometimes. They will die, but they aren't dead yet. So, even if this virus died and went away, we would see huge death numbers for several weeks.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
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BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:25 pm I find it interesting that countries with "FREE" healthcare are getting hit the worst. I guess you get what you pay for.
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it also seems to be hitting cities that have democratic mayors.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:31 pmBigRedRetard wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:25 pm I find it interesting that countries with "FREE" healthcare are getting hit the worst. I guess you get what you pay for.
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USA?BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:25 pm I find it interesting that countries with "FREE" healthcare are getting hit the worst. I guess you get what you pay for.
wut?
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i'm not really sure. I assume you are working backward from deaths to calculate actual cases. First of all, the deaths aren't accurate until its either over or a shit load of time has passed. For instance, Spain has around 800 deaths a day. Even if they had zero new cases for 2 weeks. that death rate would probably continue on some level for several weeks. So, the death rates are not accurate because a lot of the "dead" aren't dead yet.Biker wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:37 pmGood point.Flumper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:30 pmThis is one of the best one. You can click on a country like "Spain". then you scroll down and it will give graphs of new cases, deaths, recoveries, etc. Then you can do that for US or any other country. Also, you can look at "yesterday" numbers. Which is often the best place to look because they are true picture. The "today" numbers are adjusting all day long as data comes in. Even late in the afternoon, the today numbers will go up over night so you don't know the exact numbers until the next day when you look at "yesterday" numbers. If that makes sense.Biker wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:26 pmInteresting.
Where are you finding your source? Im curious as to how the US's chart looks like
The reason you can't track deaths is because once a person gets ICU sick with this disease, they can be kept alive on a ventilator for weeks. WEEKS. Like 3 weeks sometimes. They will die, but they aren't dead yet. So, even if this virus died and went away, we would see huge death numbers for several weeks.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
What do you think the multiplier is for the US when trying to estimate true numbers? Take a look at the UK where they have over a 10% mortality rate based on 47k cases. Surely the multiplier has to be at least 10, no?
BUT, I do believe that the actual death rate is going to be around 2%. Right now USA is showing a death rate of 2.7% and some people haven't died yet. But, I do think that the death rate from country to country will be around the same number statistically in the end. So, if a country has a death rate over 3%, then they are obviously not testing for all of the actual cases they have in their country. If they have a death rate less than 1% then they are probably lying about what people are dying from.
India and Russia have to be lying out their asses about the numbers of cases they have.
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Bermuda just went up to 37 and Worldometers reports Bermuda at 37 so it’s a nice little confirmation of their numbers.
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It seems to me that the U.S. "Hot Spot" should include the Northeast area inclusive of Southern Connecticut, West to Pennsylvania (at least the Eastern part), and down to Delaware.
Not surprising, and I don't like being in the middle of this shit.
P.S. And "sorry" I'm not including New Orleans. Those folks are getting hammered too.
Not surprising, and I don't like being in the middle of this shit.
P.S. And "sorry" I'm not including New Orleans. Those folks are getting hammered too.
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Louisiana has been on fire for a week or two now. Crazy. So has Michigan.FSchmertz wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:12 pm It seems to me that the U.S. "Hot Spot" should include the Northeast area inclusive of Southern Connecticut, West to Pennsylvania (at least the Eastern part), and down to Delaware.
Not surprising, and I don't like being in the middle of this shit.
P.S. And "sorry" I'm not including New Orleans. Those folks are getting hammered too.
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It's also going to be bad, very bad, here in Florida. There is already some suspicion a lot of cases have gone un- or under-reported. And it's getting to be getting back to prime weather here. Not hot, not cold, near perfect springtime weather. People are coming down here in droves, even if they can't really go out or to the beaches. And there's lots of just basic ignoring the strong suggestions to stay home. And it certainly has not helped this state that both the current governor is and previous governor was more worried about "the bottom line" than keeping our state safe in these circumstances.
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Florida is either lying about numbers or their warm high humid weather is helping slow the virus.QillerDaemon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:04 pmIt's also going to be bad, very bad, here in Florida. There is already some suspicion a lot of cases have gone un- or under-reported. And it's getting to be getting back to prime weather here. Not hot, not cold, near perfect springtime weather. People are coming down here in droves, even if they can't really go out or to the beaches. And there's lots of just basic ignoring the strong suggestions to stay home. And it certainly has not helped this state that both the current governor is and previous governor was more worried about "the bottom line" than keeping our state safe in these circumstances.
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If weather is a factor then Ecuador should be in better shape, right?Flumper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:38 pmFlorida is either lying about numbers or their warm high humid weather is helping slow the virus.QillerDaemon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:04 pmIt's also going to be bad, very bad, here in Florida. There is already some suspicion a lot of cases have gone un- or under-reported. And it's getting to be getting back to prime weather here. Not hot, not cold, near perfect springtime weather. People are coming down here in droves, even if they can't really go out or to the beaches. And there's lots of just basic ignoring the strong suggestions to stay home. And it certainly has not helped this state that both the current governor is and previous governor was more worried about "the bottom line" than keeping our state safe in these circumstances.
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Ya, and it seems to coincide with the Flu season.BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:16 pmI don't think weather is a factor as much as season is.megman wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:11 pmIf weather is a factor then Ecuador should be in better shape, right?Flumper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:38 pmFlorida is either lying about numbers or their warm high humid weather is helping slow the virus.QillerDaemon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:04 pmIt's also going to be bad, very bad, here in Florida. There is already some suspicion a lot of cases have gone un- or under-reported. And it's getting to be getting back to prime weather here. Not hot, not cold, near perfect springtime weather. People are coming down here in droves, even if they can't really go out or to the beaches. And there's lots of just basic ignoring the strong suggestions to stay home. And it certainly has not helped this state that both the current governor is and previous governor was more worried about "the bottom line" than keeping our state safe in these circumstances.
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i get a lot of people saying "well if warm weather/humidity stop it, then why is Puerto Rico having cases, etc." The thing isn't that you can't get the virus in those places. The key is how quickly it spreads. Like I said, its simply a theory (like any other in this new thing we are watching). But, when you break things down on a "per capita" basis instead of just looking for numbers of cases, then it starts to make a bit more sense. At least, maybe it does.megman wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:11 pmIf weather is a factor then Ecuador should be in better shape, right?Flumper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:38 pmFlorida is either lying about numbers or their warm high humid weather is helping slow the virus.QillerDaemon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:04 pmIt's also going to be bad, very bad, here in Florida. There is already some suspicion a lot of cases have gone un- or under-reported. And it's getting to be getting back to prime weather here. Not hot, not cold, near perfect springtime weather. People are coming down here in droves, even if they can't really go out or to the beaches. And there's lots of just basic ignoring the strong suggestions to stay home. And it certainly has not helped this state that both the current governor is and previous governor was more worried about "the bottom line" than keeping our state safe in these circumstances.
https://news.trust.org/item/20200404202149-8fizd
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these numbers today look too good to be true. This sunday (palm sunday) must be a slow day collecting data.
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I think one thing nobody has mentioned on the economic downside of all this BS. It may be the only economic recession (temporary) in the history of the US that the banks weren't involved or impacted. That's actually a major plus. Not sure how much the 2009 lessons were learned or just this has nothing to do with that.
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Lets see out the banks are unaffected once the bankruptcies and defaults start
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A Tiger at the Bronx Zoo has Tested Positive for COVID-19
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Great, now I gotta screenshot this too. Do you ever learn? Anything?WestTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:05 pmNot happening. Everything is just kinda frozen in time. Bizarre shit.
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