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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:22 pm
by Wut
Flumper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:01 pm
Wut wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:44 pm
I read about logarithmic versus linear charting yesterday, yours are logarithmic?
No. Log charts are basically when something is growing so fucking fast you can't plot all the data on one chart so you start dividing by 10 every time it crosses into another 10. Sort of like how earthquakes are recorded (richter scale).
I'm plotting acceleration. Think of it like this. If you are driving 40 mph today and 40 mph tomorrow, on my chart the graph would be flat. You are still moving but you aren't moving any faster or slower. If you suddenly go to 50 mph the next day, then i would chart that as a 10 mph day.
In terms of the virus, I plot the amount the cases "increase or decrease" each day. I'm looking for when the increase stops growing. In other words if there are 5,000 new cases today and 5,000 new cases tomorrow then my chart is flat. No growth. This slow or stop of the increase is when you can start predicting a trend, like I did for Italy. While their numbers are still increasing, they are no longer increasing more today than yesterday.
One of the explanations of log charts explained it in a similar manner as you did. All the other explanations I didn’t understand. It’s a logical manner of tracking the spread though.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:32 pm
by necronomous
Stapes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:41 pm
The idiot goes from it's a hoax to containing it to 200,000 deaths would be a great job.
He never said it was a hoax. Not in the context you're trying to mean it as. You're purposely being obtuse.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:36 pm
by Stapes
necronomous wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:32 pm
Stapes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:41 pm
The idiot goes from it's a hoax to containing it to 200,000 deaths would be a great job.
He never said it was a hoax. Not in the context you're trying to mean it as. You're purposely being obtuse.
Waahhhh
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:37 pm
by necronomous
Stapes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:36 pm
necronomous wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:32 pm
Stapes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:41 pm
The idiot goes from it's a hoax to containing it to 200,000 deaths would be a great job.
He never said it was a hoax. Not in the context you're trying to mean it as. You're purposely being obtuse.
Waahhhh
No need to cry, you can be wrong and not whine about it.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:37 pm
by Animal
necronomous wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:32 pm
Stapes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:41 pm
The idiot goes from it's a hoax to containing it to 200,000 deaths would be a great job.
He never said it was a hoax. Not in the context you're trying to mean it as. You're purposely being obtuse.
they know that. they don't spread this misinformation around because they believe it. they spread it because they know the dummies in their party will latch on to it and put it on they're faceboke postes.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:39 pm
by necronomous
Flumper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:37 pm
necronomous wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:32 pm
Stapes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:41 pm
The idiot goes from it's a hoax to containing it to 200,000 deaths would be a great job.
He never said it was a hoax. Not in the context you're trying to mean it as. You're purposely being obtuse.
they know that. they don't spread this misinformation around because they believe it. they spread it because they know the dummies in their party will latch on to it and put it on they're faceboke postes.
It's why it's hard to take anything they seriously and attempt to have a real discussion with them. So I just act like them. Then they tell me how stupid I am and they don't realize, I'm them. It's hilarious.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:52 pm
by Stapes
He said it was the Democrats new hoax. the subject matter being the coronavirus therefor saying the coronavirus is a hoax The problem isn't with my interpretation. The problem May lie with his inability to use sentence structure correctly..... Or your willingness to believe his reinterpretation. It doesn't take a genius to figure out he was talking about the coronavirus... He was downplaying it from day one. but you're good little cult follower so if he says the sun comes up at night...... You'll start wearing your sunglasses at 9 p.m.. sad little followers you are.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:55 pm
by FreakShowFanatic
Stapes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:52 pm
He said it was the Democrats new hoax. the subject matter being the coronavirus therefor saying the coronavirus is a hoax The problem isn't with my interpretation. The problem May lie with his inability to use sentence structure correctly..... Or your willingness to believe his reinterpretation. It doesn't take a genius to figure out he was talking about the coronavirus... He was downplaying it from day one. but you're good little cult follower so if he says the sun comes up at night...... You'll start wearing your sunglasses at 9 p.m.. said little followers you are.
Like me, he was hoping for the best and trying to be optimistic but in the end he listened to his medical experts and the quarantine, no?
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:56 pm
by Stapes
FreakShowFanatic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:55 pm
Stapes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:52 pm
He said it was the Democrats new hoax. the subject matter being the coronavirus therefor saying the coronavirus is a hoax The problem isn't with my interpretation. The problem May lie with his inability to use sentence structure correctly..... Or your willingness to believe his reinterpretation. It doesn't take a genius to figure out he was talking about the coronavirus... He was downplaying it from day one. but you're good little cult follower so if he says the sun comes up at night...... You'll start wearing your sunglasses at 9 p.m.. said little followers you are.
Like me, he was hoping for the best and trying to be optimistic but in the end he listened to his medical experts and the quarantine, no?
You give him way too much credit FSF.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:58 pm
by Animal
FreakShowFanatic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:55 pm
Stapes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:52 pm
He said it was the Democrats new hoax. the subject matter being the coronavirus therefor saying the coronavirus is a hoax The problem isn't with my interpretation. The problem May lie with his inability to use sentence structure correctly..... Or your willingness to believe his reinterpretation. It doesn't take a genius to figure out he was talking about the coronavirus... He was downplaying it from day one. but you're good little cult follower so if he says the sun comes up at night...... You'll start wearing your sunglasses at 9 p.m.. said little followers you are.
Like me, he was hoping for the best and trying to be optimistic but in the end he listened to his medical experts and the quarantine, no?
that's exactly what happened. the stupids can't follow events as they actually take place.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:58 pm
by CaptQuint
FreakShowFanatic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:55 pm
Stapes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:52 pm
He said it was the Democrats new hoax. the subject matter being the coronavirus therefor saying the coronavirus is a hoax The problem isn't with my interpretation. The problem May lie with his inability to use sentence structure correctly..... Or your willingness to believe his reinterpretation. It doesn't take a genius to figure out he was talking about the coronavirus... He was downplaying it from day one. but you're good little cult follower so if he says the sun comes up at night...... You'll start wearing your sunglasses at 9 p.m.. said little followers you are.
Like me, he was hoping for the best and trying to be optimistic but in the end he listened to his medical experts and the quarantine, no?
That's where you contain the virus, at the end. Doing it at the start is silly
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:02 pm
by FreakShowFanatic
Stapes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:56 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:55 pm
Stapes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:52 pm
He said it was the Democrats new hoax. the subject matter being the coronavirus therefor saying the coronavirus is a hoax The problem isn't with my interpretation. The problem May lie with his inability to use sentence structure correctly..... Or your willingness to believe his reinterpretation. It doesn't take a genius to figure out he was talking about the coronavirus... He was downplaying it from day one. but you're good little cult follower so if he says the sun comes up at night...... You'll start wearing your sunglasses at 9 p.m.. said little followers you are.
Like me, he was hoping for the best and trying to be optimistic but in the end he listened to his medical experts and the quarantine, no?
You give him way too much credit FSF.
IDK, as president he's in charge of many, many different things. He can't be expected to be a renowned personal expert on every topic. What he is expected to do is provide strong positive leadership and be smart enough to endorse the opinion of
the true experts. It's fair to question it, just like I have, especially when you're talking about losing trillions of dollars in our economy for this quarantine, but in the end he grudgingly did what was necessary. That's how I look at it.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:05 pm
by megman
About an hour south of me a nursing home has 9 dead and 37 out of 120 staff infected. So far.
We could be fucked....
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:09 pm
by Animal
megman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:05 pm
About an hour south of me a nursing home has 9 dead and 37 out of 120 staff infected. So far.
We could be fucked....
i have another theory that i think might have some merit. Not only are the elderly prone to higher mortality rates due to this virus, i think their chances of contracting the virus are exponentially higher than younger people. In other words, if you put a 20 year old and an 80 year old in a room with an infected person for a minute or so, the 80 year old will catch it with much greater probability.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:12 pm
by Reservoir Dog
Flumper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:09 pm
megman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:05 pm
About an hour south of me a nursing home has 9 dead and 37 out of 120 staff infected. So far.
We could be fucked....
i have another theory that i think might have some merit. Not only are the elderly prone to higher mortality rates due to this virus, i think their chances of contracting the virus are exponentially higher than younger people. In other words, if you put a 20 year old and an 80 year old in a room with an infected person for a minute or so, the 80 year old will catch it with much greater probability.
Have you notified the World Health Organization? I don't think they have noticed that yet.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:12 pm
by FreakShowFanatic
There's been a number of nursing homes in the US (Washington, NJ & other places) where they have become completely inundated with the virus. I guess workers or visitors are bringing it in and when that happens the elderly are highly susceptible to catching/dying from it unfortunately.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:13 pm
by Animal
Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:12 pm
Flumper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:09 pm
i have another theory that i think might have some merit. Not only are the elderly prone to higher mortality rates due to this virus, i think their chances of contracting the virus are exponentially higher than younger people. In other words, if you put a 20 year old and an 80 year old in a room with an infected person for a minute or so, the 80 year old will catch it with much greater probability.
Have you notified the World Health Organization? I don't think they have noticed that yet.
link?
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:14 pm
by Animal
FreakShowFanatic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:12 pm
There's been a number of nursing homes in the US (Washington, NJ & other places) where they have become completely inundated with the virus. I guess workers or visitors are bringing it in and when that happens the elderly are highly susceptible to catching/dying from it unfortunately.
i've heard them talk about the higher chances of the elderly dying from it, but i have yet to hear anyone talk about them being more susceptible to catching it.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:18 pm
by CaptQuint
megman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:05 pm
About an hour south of me a nursing home has 9 dead and 37 out of 120 staff infected. So far.
We could be fucked....
I read that on The Globe and Mail
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:19 pm
by FreakShowFanatic
Flumper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:14 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:12 pm
There's been a number of nursing homes in the US (Washington, NJ & other places) where they have become completely inundated with the virus. I guess workers or visitors are bringing it in and when that happens the elderly are highly susceptible to catching/dying from it unfortunately.
i've heard them talk about the higher chances of the elderly dying from it, but i have yet to hear anyone talk about them being more susceptible to catching it.
I can't recall if I've heard that or not but another thing surprising to me that my wife read is that they say people with diabetes are more susceptible to this virus. That hits home for my wife & I 'cause a close friend of ours has CV and is currently in the hospital with pneumonia. She's only 40, a nurse and an aerobics teacher but yes she has juvenile diabetes. Go figure.
I've also read that based on a study in China that people that are moderate drinkers are less susceptible to the virus. Apparently the alcohol kills it.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:22 pm
by Animal
FreakShowFanatic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:19 pm
I can't recall if I've heard that or not but another thing surprising to me that my wife read is that they say people with diabetes are more susceptible to this virus. That hits home for my wife & I 'cause a close friend of ours has CV and is currently in the hospital with pneumonia. She's only 40, a nurse and an aerobics teacher but yes she has juvenile diabetes. Go figure.
I've also read that based on a study in China that people that are moderate drinkers are less susceptible to the virus. Apparently the alcohol kills it.
that reminds me of something that I have heard asked, but I have yet to hear a real answer to it. There is a vaccine against pneumonia. And I have heard that a lot of the people that die from Covid-19 develop pneumonia and that is ultimately what kills them. So, if a person gets a vaccine against pneumonia, does that prevent Covid from causing them to catch pneumonia?
It seems like such a simple question to answer.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:23 pm
by megman
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:18 pm
megman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:05 pm
About an hour south of me a nursing home has 9 dead and 37 out of 120 staff infected. So far.
We could be fucked....
I read that on The Globe and Mail
Ya. Little shithole called Bobcaygeon.
Was just a little after 9.....
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:30 pm
by CaptQuint
megman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:23 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:18 pm
megman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:05 pm
About an hour south of me a nursing home has 9 dead and 37 out of 120 staff infected. So far.
We could be fucked....
I read that on The Globe and Mail
Ya. Little shithole called Bobcaygeon.
Was just a little after 9.....
Someone I know in Collingwood posted it
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:35 pm
by megman
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:30 pm
megman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:23 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:18 pm
megman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:05 pm
About an hour south of me a nursing home has 9 dead and 37 out of 120 staff infected. So far.
We could be fucked....
I read that on The Globe and Mail
Ya. Little shithole called Bobcaygeon.
Was just a little after 9.....
Someone I know in Collingwood posted it
About 2 1/2 W. Haven't heard of anything up there. I know there has been a confirmed case in Lindsay, about an hr SW of here.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:37 pm
by CaptQuint
megman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:35 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:30 pm
megman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:23 pm
CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:18 pm
megman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:05 pm
About an hour south of me a nursing home has 9 dead and 37 out of 120 staff infected. So far.
We could be fucked....
I read that on The Globe and Mail
Ya. Little shithole called Bobcaygeon.
Was just a little after 9.....
Someone I know in Collingwood posted it
About 2 1/2 W. Haven't heard of anything up there. I know there has been a confirmed case in Lindsay, about an hr SW of here.
The PA Counties are falling like dominoes, east to west and south to north