Liar-in-Chief to give a Speech to the Nation on Tuesday

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I'd bet I know more than most here the stratagies employed by Border Patrol.
Im sure you do, but does a physical barrier, in conjunction with other measures, slow the illegal crossings?
The pressure sensors and thermal imaging are on the US side and are only triggered once they cross. More use of technology and manpower is a much more effective way of patrolling for illegal immigrants. As far as drugs and other contraband, those are coming through our ports of entry.

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Re: Liar-in-Chief to give a Speech to the Nation on Tuesday

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B-Tender wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:47 pm
Biker wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:56 pm
B-Tender wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:53 pm
I'd bet I know more than most here the stratagies employed by Border Patrol.
Im sure you do, but does a physical barrier, in conjunction with other measures, slow the illegal crossings?
The pressure sensors and thermal imaging are on the US side and are only triggered once they cross. More use of technology and manpower is a much more effective way of patrolling for illegal immigrants. As far as drugs and other contraband, those are coming through our ports of entry.
But its not really an either or thing, is it? Why cant we have all of the above, unless of course, we want some illegals to filter through?

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Re: Liar-in-Chief to give a Speech to the Nation on Tuesday

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Post by AnalHamster » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:56 pm

Biker wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:50 pm
B-Tender wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:47 pm
Biker wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:56 pm


Im sure you do, but does a physical barrier, in conjunction with other measures, slow the illegal crossings?
The pressure sensors and thermal imaging are on the US side and are only triggered once they cross. More use of technology and manpower is a much more effective way of patrolling for illegal immigrants. As far as drugs and other contraband, those are coming through our ports of entry.
But its not really an either or thing, is it? Why cant we have all of the above, unless of course, we want some illegals to filter through?
Limited resources. In addition to the wall just being a dumb idea. Why not a wall plus a unicorn hunting squad with fast attack helicopters dedicated solely to the eradication of unicorns? Their horns are made from 95-98% heroin.

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Post by Wut » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:10 pm

If Democrats offered 5 billion to be spent on speeding up adjudications, electronic surveillance, and other measures, would the Trumpets accept it in lieu of a wall?

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Wut wrote:
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If Democrats offered 5 billion to be spent on speeding up adjudications, electronic surveillance, and other measures, would the Trumpets accept it in lieu of a wall?
Nope, Big Daddy Orange would lose face. Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.
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Post by B-Tender » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:14 pm

Biker wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:50 pm
B-Tender wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:47 pm
Biker wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:56 pm


Im sure you do, but does a physical barrier, in conjunction with other measures, slow the illegal crossings?
The pressure sensors and thermal imaging are on the US side and are only triggered once they cross. More use of technology and manpower is a much more effective way of patrolling for illegal immigrants. As far as drugs and other contraband, those are coming through our ports of entry.
But its not really an either or thing, is it? Why cant we have all of the above, unless of course, we want some illegals to filter through?
Some areas need physical barriers. Some areas, particularly mountains, aren't practical for physical barriers. The strategy needs to be prevention of illegal immigration that is reasonably and financialy prudent.

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Post by Biker » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:43 pm

B-Tender wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:14 pm
Biker wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:50 pm
B-Tender wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:47 pm


The pressure sensors and thermal imaging are on the US side and are only triggered once they cross. More use of technology and manpower is a much more effective way of patrolling for illegal immigrants. As far as drugs and other contraband, those are coming through our ports of entry.
But its not really an either or thing, is it? Why cant we have all of the above, unless of course, we want some illegals to filter through?
Some areas need physical barriers. Some areas, particularly mountains, aren't practical for physical barriers. The strategy needs to be prevention of illegal immigration that is reasonably and financialy prudent.
So welfare to those in Latin America is far more inexpensive? Come on now

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Post by B-Tender » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:52 pm

Biker wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:43 pm
B-Tender wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:14 pm
Biker wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:50 pm

But its not really an either or thing, is it? Why cant we have all of the above, unless of course, we want some illegals to filter through?
Some areas need physical barriers. Some areas, particularly mountains, aren't practical for physical barriers. The strategy needs to be prevention of illegal immigration that is reasonably and financialy prudent.
So welfare to those in Latin America is far more inexpensive? Come on now
I actually think that investing in Latin America to help develope their economies can be more cost effective than mass immigration.

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Post by CaptQuint » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:56 pm

When The Trump Organization procures false documents for illegal aliens they pay FICA taxes so that they can never recover so they pay for the other's foods stamps
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I am getting the point where I almost want Trump to get the financing for the wall, so people can see what a boondoggle it's goiing to be. If you think it will be built for $5 billion you're crazy. The costs will continue to rise. They will come back asking for just a little more money on a regular basis citing "uncontrollable, or unforseen events". It reminds me a bit of the California Bullet Train.

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Post by AnalHamster » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:58 pm

5bn isn't supposed to be the price tag, maybe some pundits are pretending it is, but that's just to get started so trump can stand in front of something. 25bn minimum if it happens, and let's face it, costs spiral.

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Post by Stapes » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:10 pm

30 to 50 billion more like it built by one of Trump's pals so they all can get a piece of the pie and getting stuck maintaining for good knows how long. In the meantime most of the bridges in this country are in shit shape and Flint michigan kids are drinking poison
Not in the a.m. bro.

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Post by CaptQuint » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:10 pm

There is always a grift
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Post by Biker » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:11 pm

B-Tender wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:52 pm
Biker wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:43 pm
B-Tender wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:14 pm


Some areas need physical barriers. Some areas, particularly mountains, aren't practical for physical barriers. The strategy needs to be prevention of illegal immigration that is reasonably and financialy prudent.
So welfare to those in Latin America is far more inexpensive? Come on now
I actually think that investing in Latin America to help develope their economies can be more cost effective than mass immigration.
Not the question

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Post by CaptQuint » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:55 am

Remember trump's leaked phone call to the Mexican president begging him to pay, or at least say they would pay, or at the very least not refute that they payed and 'we'll make it up to them'?

Uselessjunk remembers
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Post by DandyDon » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:33 am

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Yep, nobody is trying to rob the bank in front of the TV cameras. Brilliant Correlation vs Causation there Skippy.

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Wait so the the fact that there weren't immigrants impaling themselves against the wall fruitlessly during the 40 second clip was "proof that walls work"?

Holy fuck :lol: :lol:

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Post by stymiegreen » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:18 am

I laffed,


Donald Trump's Old Advice About How To Defeat A Wall Comes Back To Haunt Him


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/do ... b31c3f3d79

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Post by Charliesheen » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:19 am

Stapes wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:10 pm
30 to 50 billion more like it built by one of Trump's pals so they all can get a piece of the pie and getting stuck maintaining for good knows how long. In the meantime most of the bridges in this country are in shit shape and Flint michigan kids are drinking poison
With the exception of interstates, shit bridges are not the purview of Uncle Sam. Nor are the idiots running the Flint water system. Border security is clearly an executive function.

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Post by CaptQuint » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:35 pm

Lot of shitty interstate bridges

Despite billions of dollars in annual federal, state and local funds directed toward the maintenance of existing bridges, 68,842 bridges – representing more than 11 percent of total highway bridges in the U.S. – are classified as “structurally deficient,” according to the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA). Structurally deficient bridges require significant maintenance, rehabilitation or replacement. A number of bridges also exceed their expected lifespan of 50 years. The average age of an American bridge is 42 years.

http://t4america.org/maps-tools/bridges/overview/
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Post by Biker » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:10 pm

stymiegreen wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:05 am
Biker wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:25 pm
Wait so the the fact that there weren't immigrants impaling themselves against the wall fruitlessly during the 40 second clip was "proof that walls work"?

Holy fuck :lol: :lol:
Thats the point, knucklehead. Illegals are avoiding areas with barriers.

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Post by CaptQuint » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:12 pm

Probably avoiding areas with TV crews as well
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