No, it did not. U.S. troops pulled out at that time. What we called "The war" ended then.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:42 pmAnd you're back to repeating your provably false statement. The war was over in 8 years and 9 months. This is a fact.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:40 pmYes, the war was over in a month. The resulting insurgency and violence goes on to this day. The fact that the U.S. troops aren't there means nothing. people don't stop dying just because you aren't seeing them. They can say this or that time frame defines the war, but that's just labels.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:36 pmYou missed an edit, just pointing it out now so you don't get your panties too wadded. I'll repost it here. "The War" isn't a term that actually refers to any specific conflict.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:31 pmSo "The War" is ongoing.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:27 pmNope. I'm saying the Iraq war refers to the conflict from 2003-2011, and the Iraq civil war refers to the conflict from 2014-2017, when ISIL lost it's last territory, it remains fighting an insurgency.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:22 pm Are you saying there's nothing going on in Iraq right now, and that it can't be blamed on the invasion?
(Sorry, tried to shorten thread. Fucked it up.)
The Iraq war refers to the conflict from 2003 when the US led coalition attacked, to 2011 when the US withdrew, and the Iraq civil war refers to the conflict from 2014-2017, when ISIL lost it's last territory, it remains fighting an insurgency. The insurgency following the Iraq Civil War is ongoing, and the turks are up to some shenanigans against the Kurds in the north.
What you said, in case you've forgotten was that the Iraq war lasted 1 month in 2003 and was an easy win for the US. You were wrong on both counts.
We both understand what I said, what I meant at the time, and that I have been perfectly consistent. Whether you agree or not, it was not unclear.
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https://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+iraq+warVinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:46 pm No, it did not. U.S. troops pulled out at that time. What we called "The war" ended then.
You seem to have lost cohesiveness there, are you back to admitting the Iraq War means what it actually means again?
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Not remotely. I remain consistent.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:50 pmhttps://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+iraq+warVinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:46 pm No, it did not. U.S. troops pulled out at that time. What we called "The war" ended then.
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Consistently stupid, yes. You do intermittently admit the Iraq war lasted more than a month, but you just can't keep it up. 2003-2011, all you have to do is click the link and admit it.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:52 pmNot remotely. I remain consistent.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:50 pmhttps://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+iraq+warVinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:46 pm No, it did not. U.S. troops pulled out at that time. What we called "The war" ended then.
You seem to have lost cohesiveness there, are you back to admitting the Iraq War means what it actually means again?
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Admit that you only care about people who died in 2003-2011? They're the ones covered by your version of "the war"? Not the later ones?AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:54 pmConsistently stupid, yes. You do intermittently admit the Iraq war lasted more than a month, but you just can't keep it up. 2003-2011, all you have to do is click the link and admit it.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:52 pmNot remotely. I remain consistent.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:50 pmhttps://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+iraq+warVinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:46 pm No, it did not. U.S. troops pulled out at that time. What we called "The war" ended then.
You seem to have lost cohesiveness there, are you back to admitting the Iraq War means what it actually means again?
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I'm not seeing how your new desperate evasion attempt relates to anything. I don't care about people who died after the war because I am capable of recognising what period the war lasted? Does not follow. I brought up the iraqi dead as one of the major costs of the war pages back, first time you've mentioned it.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:07 pmAdmit that you only care about people who died in 2003-2011? They're the ones covered by your version of "the war"? Not the later ones?AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:54 pmConsistently stupid, yes. You do intermittently admit the Iraq war lasted more than a month, but you just can't keep it up. 2003-2011, all you have to do is click the link and admit it.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:52 pmNot remotely. I remain consistent.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:50 pmhttps://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+iraq+warVinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:46 pm No, it did not. U.S. troops pulled out at that time. What we called "The war" ended then.
You seem to have lost cohesiveness there, are you back to admitting the Iraq War means what it actually means again?
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I'm not remotely desperate. I'm laughing at you, because you're so fussy.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:14 pmI'm not seeing how your new desperate evasion attempt relates to anything. I don't care about people who died after the war because I am capable of recognising what period the war lasted? Does not follow. I brought up the iraqi dead as one of the major costs of the war pages back, first time you've mentioned it.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:07 pmAdmit that you only care about people who died in 2003-2011? They're the ones covered by your version of "the war"? Not the later ones?AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:54 pmConsistently stupid, yes. You do intermittently admit the Iraq war lasted more than a month, but you just can't keep it up. 2003-2011, all you have to do is click the link and admit it.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:52 pmNot remotely. I remain consistent.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:50 pmhttps://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+iraq+warVinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:46 pm No, it did not. U.S. troops pulled out at that time. What we called "The war" ended then.
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Uh huh, sure thing old timer. So are you now recognising, again, that the Iraq war ended in 2011? Or are you still pretending it lasted a month? Are you still claiming it was easy because the objective was really to admit defeat to the insurgency as soon as it started?VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:18 pmI'm not remotely desperate. I'm laughing at you, because you're so fussy.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:14 pmI'm not seeing how your new desperate evasion attempt relates to anything. I don't care about people who died after the war because I am capable of recognising what period the war lasted? Does not follow. I brought up the iraqi dead as one of the major costs of the war pages back, first time you've mentioned it.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:07 pmAdmit that you only care about people who died in 2003-2011? They're the ones covered by your version of "the war"? Not the later ones?AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:54 pmConsistently stupid, yes. You do intermittently admit the Iraq war lasted more than a month, but you just can't keep it up. 2003-2011, all you have to do is click the link and admit it.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:52 pmNot remotely. I remain consistent.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:50 pm https://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+iraq+war
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C'mon! you're not even trying.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:20 pmUh huh, sure thing old timer. So are you now recognising, again, that the Iraq war ended in 2011? Or are you still pretending it lasted a month? Are you still claiming it was easy because the objective was really to admit defeat to the insurgency as soon as it started?VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:18 pmI'm not remotely desperate. I'm laughing at you, because you're so fussy.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:14 pmI'm not seeing how your new desperate evasion attempt relates to anything. I don't care about people who died after the war because I am capable of recognising what period the war lasted? Does not follow. I brought up the iraqi dead as one of the major costs of the war pages back, first time you've mentioned it.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:07 pmAdmit that you only care about people who died in 2003-2011? They're the ones covered by your version of "the war"? Not the later ones?AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:54 pmConsistently stupid, yes. You do intermittently admit the Iraq war lasted more than a month, but you just can't keep it up. 2003-2011, all you have to do is click the link and admit it.
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Uh huh, sure thing old timer. So are you now recognising, again, that the Iraq war ended in 2011? Or are you still pretending it lasted a month? Are you still claiming it was easy because the objective was really to admit defeat to the insurgency as soon as it started?
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You simply reposted the same thing again.
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Because you refused to answer it. It's not at all clear if you're currently on the flip or the flop on understanding when the Iraq war ended.
So are you now recognising, again, that the Iraq war ended in 2011? Or are you still pretending it lasted a month? Are you still claiming it was easy because the objective was really to admit defeat to the insurgency as soon as it started?
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Ohhhh, I get it! You're doing that crazy thing you do, where you pretend some trite question is so important and difficult that the person can't possibly answer it.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:15 pmBecause you refused to answer it. It's not at all clear if you're currently on the flip or the flop on understanding when the Iraq war ended.
So are you now recognising, again, that the Iraq war ended in 2011? Or are you still pretending it lasted a month? Are you still claiming it was easy because the objective was really to admit defeat to the insurgency as soon as it started?
Answer my question! I demand you answer my question! You wouldn't be German, would you?
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Well since we're pretending to discuss your mistaken claim that the Iraq war was an easy win, when the iraq war occurred is kinda fundamental, no? I've spent a few pages now trying to get you to admit you can grasp when the iraq war actually was. This isn't saving face for you, you just look retarded.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:21 pmOhhhh, I get it! You're doing that crazy thing you do, where you pretend some trite question is so important and difficult that the person can't possibly answer it.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:15 pmBecause you refused to answer it. It's not at all clear if you're currently on the flip or the flop on understanding when the Iraq war ended.
So are you now recognising, again, that the Iraq war ended in 2011? Or are you still pretending it lasted a month? Are you still claiming it was easy because the objective was really to admit defeat to the insurgency as soon as it started?
Answer my question! I demand you answer my question! You wouldn't be German, would you?
It's not at all clear if you're currently on the flip or the flop on understanding when the Iraq war ended.
So are you now recognising, again, that the Iraq war ended in 2011? Or are you still pretending it lasted a month? Are you still claiming it was easy because the objective was really to admit defeat to the insurgency as soon as it started?
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It's sad to see think that's the case
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Do you think the Iraq war was a quick and easy victory for the US?
Sad little cheerleader as always, but you can't and won't defend the position you are cheering for. It can't be defended, that's why this buffoon is desperately flip flopping on admitting when the war ended. You aren't going to attempt to defend the position you're cheerleading for, you aren't even going to admit you see the question, you sad pathetic old fool.
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You’re bugging.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:24 amWell since we're pretending to discuss your mistaken claim that the Iraq war was an easy win, when the iraq war occurred is kinda fundamental, no? I've spent a few pages now trying to get you to admit you can grasp when the iraq war actually was. This isn't saving face for you, you just look retarded.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:21 pmOhhhh, I get it! You're doing that crazy thing you do, where you pretend some trite question is so important and difficult that the person can't possibly answer it.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:15 pmBecause you refused to answer it. It's not at all clear if you're currently on the flip or the flop on understanding when the Iraq war ended.
So are you now recognising, again, that the Iraq war ended in 2011? Or are you still pretending it lasted a month? Are you still claiming it was easy because the objective was really to admit defeat to the insurgency as soon as it started?
Answer my question! I demand you answer my question! You wouldn't be German, would you?
It's not at all clear if you're currently on the flip or the flop on understanding when the Iraq war ended.
So are you now recognising, again, that the Iraq war ended in 2011? Or are you still pretending it lasted a month? Are you still claiming it was easy because the objective was really to admit defeat to the insurgency as soon as it started?
Have you considered talking to a therapist? Seriously. Your behavior in so many conversations is strange, to say the least. I’ve been perfectly clear from the outset what my position is, and it hasn’t changed one iota. But you get into this bizarre “answer ze question” thing, and that’s all she wrote. I really do feel sorry for you.
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Uh huh. If you feel that you've already answered these very simple questions, then surely the simplest approach would be to just quote yourself answering them, no? The problem you have is that you can't, because you are desparately flip flopping trying to avoid admittig you were wrong. It's very sad at your age, but it's just what you are, a pathetic man baby who just can't bring himself to admit error. I will continue humiliating you for as long as you continue to consent to be humiliated:VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:00 amYou’re bugging.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:24 amWell since we're pretending to discuss your mistaken claim that the Iraq war was an easy win, when the iraq war occurred is kinda fundamental, no? I've spent a few pages now trying to get you to admit you can grasp when the iraq war actually was. This isn't saving face for you, you just look retarded.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:21 pmOhhhh, I get it! You're doing that crazy thing you do, where you pretend some trite question is so important and difficult that the person can't possibly answer it.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:15 pmBecause you refused to answer it. It's not at all clear if you're currently on the flip or the flop on understanding when the Iraq war ended.
So are you now recognising, again, that the Iraq war ended in 2011? Or are you still pretending it lasted a month? Are you still claiming it was easy because the objective was really to admit defeat to the insurgency as soon as it started?
Answer my question! I demand you answer my question! You wouldn't be German, would you?
It's not at all clear if you're currently on the flip or the flop on understanding when the Iraq war ended.
So are you now recognising, again, that the Iraq war ended in 2011? Or are you still pretending it lasted a month? Are you still claiming it was easy because the objective was really to admit defeat to the insurgency as soon as it started?
Have you considered talking to a therapist? Seriously. Your behavior in so many conversations is strange, to say the least. I’ve been perfectly clear from the outset what my position is, and it hasn’t changed one iota. But you get into this bizarre “answer ze question” thing, and that’s all she wrote. I really do feel sorry for you.
It's not at all clear if you're currently on the flip or the flop on understanding when the Iraq war ended.
So are you now recognising, again, that the Iraq war ended in 2011? Or are you still pretending it lasted a month? Are you still claiming it was easy because the objective was really to admit defeat to the insurgency as soon as it started?
Your position that the war took a month or your position that it took 8 years? You're attempting to argue both incompatible positions simultaneously, you sad old fool.I’ve been perfectly clear from the outset what my position is
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What time is it in your neck of the woods, crazy?
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3.16, I'm lying next to a woman I've fucked into unconsciousness and watching the overrated 2009 film avatar while I wait to get sleepy. I'll sleep about 5 hours then spring up to face the day with more mental resources than you can comprehend existing. Try answering something related to the topic, you sad coward.
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Lol. Uhuh. You don’t get laid, dude. You spend all your time on UJ picking nits and trying to bully other posters. I’m immune, though, because I see you, and I don’t have my ego tied up in an online forum.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:19 am3.16, I'm lying next to a woman I've fucked into unconsciousness and watching the overrated 2009 film avatar while I wait to get sleepy. I'll sleep about 5 hours then spring up to face the day with more mental resources than you can comprehend existing. Try answering something related to the topic, you sad coward.