Sure why care about the untermensch. At least you're honest with yourself I guess, just fine with abusing children.BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:33 pmIf these kids parents are in favor of it, so am I.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:06 am Circle jerk over it all you want, you are all in favour of imprisoning and mistreating innocent children in the hopes of deterring the adults that brought them.
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Not until you finish the last one.BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:50 pmI will gladly adopt one of these kids.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:39 pmSure why care about the untermensch. At least you're honest with yourself I guess, just fine with abusing children.BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:33 pmIf these kids parents are in favor of it, so am I.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:06 am Circle jerk over it all you want, you are all in favour of imprisoning and mistreating innocent children in the hopes of deterring the adults that brought them.
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The mistake is letting them in at all. Where are they being caught? Can’t you just herd them back over? We’re being stuck in an untenable situation as it is. You couldn’t build enough housing for them.
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That's prohibited by the 8th amendment.BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:50 pmI will gladly adopt one of these kids.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:39 pmSure why care about the untermensch. At least you're honest with yourself I guess, just fine with abusing children.BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:33 pmIf these kids parents are in favor of it, so am I.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:06 am Circle jerk over it all you want, you are all in favour of imprisoning and mistreating innocent children in the hopes of deterring the adults that brought them.
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I think if you do some research you'll find most people here illegally came via some legal means i.e. passport on "vacation" etc. Not a Chumpian Faux Nooz fantasy of a Southern border tidal wave to feed the MAGAts' red meat for ratings.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:13 pm The mistake is letting them in at all. Where are they being caught? Can’t you just herd them back over? We’re being stuck in an untenable situation as it is. You couldn’t build enough housing for them.
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That may be true, but we’re talking about a border crisis, not what’s spread out over the entire country. When you have thousands of people show up in one place all at once, that’s a problem.FSchmertz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:29 pmI think if you do some research you'll find most people here illegally came via some legal means i.e. passport on "vacation" etc. Not a Chumpian Faux Nooz fantasy of a Southern border tidal wave to feed the MAGAts' red meat for ratings.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:13 pm The mistake is letting them in at all. Where are they being caught? Can’t you just herd them back over? We’re being stuck in an untenable situation as it is. You couldn’t build enough housing for them.
As far as faux news goes, the first time I saw alarm over this was on all the regular network news well before 2016.
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About 100k a month now at the border. You don't see that as a problem and that the whole point is to overwhelm the system and make the situation even worse all the while creating viral heart tugging moments to be exploited?FSchmertz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:29 pmI think if you do some research you'll find most people here illegally came via some legal means i.e. passport on "vacation" etc. Not a Chumpian Faux Nooz fantasy of a Southern border tidal wave to feed the MAGAts' red meat for ratings.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:13 pm The mistake is letting them in at all. Where are they being caught? Can’t you just herd them back over? We’re being stuck in an untenable situation as it is. You couldn’t build enough housing for them.
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The overcrowding crisis is due to a policy choice, not unprecedented numbers.
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Yeah, we should just release them into the wild. Then it will be ALL BETTER.
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100k a month is a problem. Sorry you disagree.
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Like the last 50 years. Chump created the crisis, it appears the cruelty is intentional as a deterrent. The best face you can put on it is gross incompetence, he's had years now to increase capacity for detention in humane conditions and increase the capacity of the immigration courts.
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By massively increasing the capacity of the immigration courts, moderately increasing the capacity of the detention centres particularly those handling families and unaccompanied minors, and releasing most people being processed with a court date and an ankle monitor.BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:50 pmAH, out of curiosity how do you think this should be handled?
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Good grief.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:49 pm Like the last 50 years. Chump created the crisis, it appears the cruelty is intentional as a deterrent. The best face you can put on it is gross incompetence, he's had years now to increase capacity for detention in humane conditions and increase the capacity of the immigration courts.
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How about we do this, and keep all the illegals on the Mexico side, until the beeper goes off for their court date?AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:54 pmBy massively increasing the capacity of the immigration courts, moderately increasing the capacity of the detention centres particularly those handling families and unaccompanied minors, and releasing most people being processed with a court date and an ankle monitor.BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:50 pmAH, out of curiosity how do you think this should be handled?
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The overcrowding crisis was not caused by unprecedented numbers, it was caused by a policy change implemented with no preparation or planning to deal with the increase in detentions. Pretty simple. Either incompentently or deliberately as a deterrent.PimpDaddy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:15 pmGood grief.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:49 pm Like the last 50 years. Chump created the crisis, it appears the cruelty is intentional as a deterrent. The best face you can put on it is gross incompetence, he's had years now to increase capacity for detention in humane conditions and increase the capacity of the immigration courts.
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So when Obama built the cages, there was no problem? Got it.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:25 pmThe overcrowding crisis was not caused by unprecedented numbers, it was caused by a policy change implemented with no preparation or planning to deal with the increase in detentions. Pretty simple. Either incompentently or deliberately as a deterrent.PimpDaddy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:15 pmGood grief.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:49 pm Like the last 50 years. Chump created the crisis, it appears the cruelty is intentional as a deterrent. The best face you can put on it is gross incompetence, he's had years now to increase capacity for detention in humane conditions and increase the capacity of the immigration courts.
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Nope, nor when bush was building the cages or clinton. Because they didn't then try to stuff hundreds of people in a cage built for 50, keep them there indefinitely tear their kids away as a deterrent, or deny them basic facilities like a toothbrush or a cot to sleep on, you sadistic fuck.PimpDaddy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:40 pmSo when Obama built the cages, there was no problem? Got it.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:25 pmThe overcrowding crisis was not caused by unprecedented numbers, it was caused by a policy change implemented with no preparation or planning to deal with the increase in detentions. Pretty simple. Either incompentently or deliberately as a deterrent.PimpDaddy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:15 pmGood grief.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:49 pm Like the last 50 years. Chump created the crisis, it appears the cruelty is intentional as a deterrent. The best face you can put on it is gross incompetence, he's had years now to increase capacity for detention in humane conditions and increase the capacity of the immigration courts.
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Wow, that escalated quickly. Are you suggesting there was never a problem before Trump, and cages/facilities/laws/policies, etc were put in place just for the fun of it? Them Trump came along and fucked it all up entirely on his own? I acknowledge you read one article that says how terrible conditions are, but can you also acknowledge there are other articles written that claim otherwise?AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:00 pmNope, nor when bush was building the cages or clinton. Because they didn't then try to stuff hundreds of people in a cage built for 50, keep them there indefinitely tear their kids away as a deterrent, or deny them basic facilities like a toothbrush or a cot to sleep on, you sadistic fuck.PimpDaddy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:40 pmSo when Obama built the cages, there was no problem? Got it.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:25 pmThe overcrowding crisis was not caused by unprecedented numbers, it was caused by a policy change implemented with no preparation or planning to deal with the increase in detentions. Pretty simple. Either incompentently or deliberately as a deterrent.PimpDaddy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:15 pmGood grief.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:49 pm Like the last 50 years. Chump created the crisis, it appears the cruelty is intentional as a deterrent. The best face you can put on it is gross incompetence, he's had years now to increase capacity for detention in humane conditions and increase the capacity of the immigration courts.
Can you also acknowledge there isn't a giant "THIS WAY FOR A FREE TOOTHBRUSH AND OTHER STUFF" billboard in Mexico with a giant arrow that points to the border? And everyone knows Trump didn't start the parent/kid separation thing, so don't lower yourself by claiming he did.
I agree the process is not perfect, but I do NOT agree the USA has to drop its shorts immediately and bow to the needs of illegal immigrants just because they want us to. Feel free to turn around and go back home or wait your turn (and don't expect us to pay while you wait)
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The ones they know about, maybe. Question is how many don't we know about? Don't try that old 11 million estimate from the eighties. Wouldn't surprise me if an honest count showed over forty million.FSchmertz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:29 pmI think if you do some research you'll find most people here illegally came via some legal means i.e. passport on "vacation" etc. Not a Chumpian Faux Nooz fantasy of a Southern border tidal wave to feed the MAGAts' red meat for ratings.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:13 pm The mistake is letting them in at all. Where are they being caught? Can’t you just herd them back over? We’re being stuck in an untenable situation as it is. You couldn’t build enough housing for them.
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I am stating that the current problem with overcrowding was created by putting in place a policy to massively increase the numbers being detained without putting in place the necessary preparation to handle the numbers. Is some part of that hard to grasp?PimpDaddy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:29 pmWow, that escalated quickly. Are you suggesting there was never a problem before Trump, and cages/facilities/laws/policies, etc were put in place just for the fun of it? Them Trump came along and fucked it all up entirely on his own? I acknowledge you read one article that says how terrible conditions are, but can you also acknowledge there are other articles written that claim otherwise?AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:00 pmNope, nor when bush was building the cages or clinton. Because they didn't then try to stuff hundreds of people in a cage built for 50, keep them there indefinitely tear their kids away as a deterrent, or deny them basic facilities like a toothbrush or a cot to sleep on, you sadistic fuck.PimpDaddy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:40 pmSo when Obama built the cages, there was no problem? Got it.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:25 pmThe overcrowding crisis was not caused by unprecedented numbers, it was caused by a policy change implemented with no preparation or planning to deal with the increase in detentions. Pretty simple. Either incompentently or deliberately as a deterrent.PimpDaddy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:15 pmGood grief.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:49 pm Like the last 50 years. Chump created the crisis, it appears the cruelty is intentional as a deterrent. The best face you can put on it is gross incompetence, he's had years now to increase capacity for detention in humane conditions and increase the capacity of the immigration courts.
Can you also acknowledge there isn't a giant "THIS WAY FOR A FREE TOOTHBRUSH AND OTHER STUFF" billboard in Mexico with a giant arrow that points to the border? And everyone knows Trump didn't start the parent/kid separation thing, so don't lower yourself by claiming he did.
I agree the process is not perfect, but I do NOT agree the USA has to drop its shorts immediately and bow to the needs of illegal immigrants just because they want us to. Feel free to turn around and go back home or wait your turn (and don't expect us to pay while you wait)
The information on how shitty the conditions are does not come from an article with equal weighting to some imaginary articles, these facilities have been toured by government inspection teams that have revealed what is going on, by staff turned whistleblowers, lawyers and congresspeople. Interesting that you feel the need to deny the facts though, does that mean you are admitting the facts are that the conditions are unacceptable? Does imprisoning children and holding them in concentration camp conditions make you uncircumcized on some level?
There is no billboard, not really seeing why you think that is anything but a stupid thing to say though. Trump started family separation as an intentional punitive policy, another thing you good little nazis are fine with. Can you grasp the difference between occasional necessity and intentional choice as a means of punishment?
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