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A New Low’: NC Republicans Override Governor’s Veto While Dems Attended 9/11 Ceremony

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North Carolina House Republicans on Wednesday called a surprise vote to override Gov. Roy Cooper’s (D) budget veto while he and House Democrats attended a 9/11 memorial event, according to reporter John Kaplan of ABC11 WTVD Eyewitness News.

Prior to Wednesday’s vote, House Republicans told their Democratic colleagues that no votes would be held during the 9/11 morning ceremony, then proceeded to vote while approximately half the members weren’t present, State Sen. Jeff Jackson (D) said.

“Plainly unethical behavior by Republicans today,” Jackson tweeted following the vote. “There have to be consequences for this kind of behavior. Just another lesson in why they must lose their majority.”

After the initial motion to reconsider the state budget was made by Republican State Rep. Jason Saine, the chamber erupted into chaos, according to the News&Observer. The response Saine offered later:




Ignoring Democrats’ protests, Republicans quickly voted to override the budget veto by a tally of 55-9, easily surpassing the three-fifths majority required.

“This is a travesty of the process and you know it,” Democratic State Rep. Deb Butler said of Republicans’ strategy, which she characterized as “hijacking the process.”

In a press conference held after the override vote, Gov. Cooper did not mince words, and admonished Republicans.

“For two months, Republicans refused to offer a compromise or sit down at a true negotiating table with me. Democrats were told there would be no votes this morning. That was a bald-faced lie,” he said. “Today, Republicans waged an assault on our democracy. They cheated the people of North Carolina.”

In response to a reporter’s question, Cooper said that after more than 30 years in state government, he had never seen anything like Wednesday’s maneuver.

“This is a true assault on our democracy,” he said. “There is no question about it.”

Rick Hasen, a professor of law and political science at UC Irvine, said that while House Republicans won the day, their conduct may lead to more serious repercussions in the future.

“This is not going to go over well with the three judge court which was giving the North Carolina General Assembly a chance to draft a bipartisan redistricting plan (or else court will appoint special master to do it),” Hasen tweeted. He also called Republicans’ conduct “a new low.”

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Never believe a Republican is acting in good faith.
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Never believe a politician is acting in good faith.

You are an idiot is you think one party is better than the other, in any way.
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Biker wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:53 pm History is not your friend, Capt

https://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1 ... vjsiSghDeE
Senate leader Marc Basnight told WRAL he called senators back to Raleigh because he thought the votes were there to pass a lottery. Two Republican senators who opposed the lottery -- Harry Brown of Onslow County and Robert Garwood of Wilkes County -- were not present at the Legislature for the vote. Garwood was sick and Brown was on his honeymoon.

Perdue suspended the rules that required two separate votes on two separate days. Some lottery opponents claim Tuesday was a sad day for the state and a sneaky day in the Senate
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Cassandros wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:53 pm Never believe a politician is acting in good faith.

You are an idiot is you think one party is better than the other, in any way.
Go push your both sides horseshit elsewhere
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Biker wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:08 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:07 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:53 pm History is not your friend, Capt

https://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1 ... vjsiSghDeE
Senate leader Marc Basnight told WRAL he called senators back to Raleigh because he thought the votes were there to pass a lottery. Two Republican senators who opposed the lottery -- Harry Brown of Onslow County and Robert Garwood of Wilkes County -- were not present at the Legislature for the vote. Garwood was sick and Brown was on his honeymoon.

Perdue suspended the rules that required two separate votes on two separate days. Some lottery opponents claim Tuesday was a sad day for the state and a sneaky day in the Senate
:rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

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CaptQuint wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:07 pm
Cassandros wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:53 pm Never believe a politician is acting in good faith.

You are an idiot is you think one party is better than the other, in any way.
Go push your both sides horseshit elsewhere
Oh, right... cause you think your party is "good" and the other party is "bad".

I really think you are smarter than this, but... Maybe not.

Truth is, there is one party. The division is all a circus to keep the unthinking majority in line. And, it works, hence why we have so many partisan hacks in the US who will carry water for "their party" even when its obviously complete bullshit.
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Blah blah blah, no buyer here. Sell it elsewhere.
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Cassandros wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:41 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:07 pm
Cassandros wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:53 pm Never believe a politician is acting in good faith.

You are an idiot is you think one party is better than the other, in any way.
Go push your both sides horseshit elsewhere
Oh, right... cause you think your party is "good" and the other party is "bad".

I really think you are smarter than this, but... Maybe not.

Truth is, there is one party. The division is all a circus to keep the unthinking majority in line. And, it works, hence why we have so many partisan hacks in the US who will carry water for "their party" even when its obviously complete bullshit.
CQ is a fan. You can never convince a fan of anything. They’ll jump through their own asshole looking for a way to believe in their own righteousness.
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VinceBordenIII wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:21 am
Cassandros wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:41 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:07 pm
Cassandros wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:53 pm Never believe a politician is acting in good faith.

You are an idiot is you think one party is better than the other, in any way.
Go push your both sides horseshit elsewhere
Oh, right... cause you think your party is "good" and the other party is "bad".

I really think you are smarter than this, but... Maybe not.

Truth is, there is one party. The division is all a circus to keep the unthinking majority in line. And, it works, hence why we have so many partisan hacks in the US who will carry water for "their party" even when its obviously complete bullshit.
CQ is a fan. You can never convince a fan of anything. They’ll jump through their own asshole looking for a way to believe in their own righteousness.
And you will never acknowledge the right is a corrupt party on their deathbed and cannot win in the current demographic populace without cheating.
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Folks like me and Cheezy point out republican/trump dipshittery all the time.

CQ is like these fuckers, to a "T."



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DandyDon wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:37 am
VinceBordenIII wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:21 am
Cassandros wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:41 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:07 pm
Cassandros wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:53 pm Never believe a politician is acting in good faith.

You are an idiot is you think one party is better than the other, in any way.
Go push your both sides horseshit elsewhere
Oh, right... cause you think your party is "good" and the other party is "bad".

I really think you are smarter than this, but... Maybe not.

Truth is, there is one party. The division is all a circus to keep the unthinking majority in line. And, it works, hence why we have so many partisan hacks in the US who will carry water for "their party" even when its obviously complete bullshit.
CQ is a fan. You can never convince a fan of anything. They’ll jump through their own asshole looking for a way to believe in their own righteousness.
And you will never acknowledge the right is a corrupt party on their deathbed and cannot win in the current demographic populace without cheating.
The republicans are no more corrupt than the democrats. They are certainly endangered in the immediate future with the current shift in state and national demographics, but it’s foolish to think they’re finished. They will simply change, as all parties do. The cheating thing... that’s just dumb. The republicans’ biggest flaw is that they have allowed their brand to be tainted with a lot of absurd accusations of racism. Don’t think that the Democrat party doesn’t do that on purpose, because they’ve discovered it works, just like catering to every single sub-identity works. Never mind the impact on society.
Look at the extremes the democrats cater to today. And those extremes are actually becoming mainstream. The endless victimhood that the left supports. Where does that end?
With yet another pendulum swing.
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VinceBordenIII wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:21 am
Cassandros wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:41 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:07 pm
Cassandros wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:53 pm Never believe a politician is acting in good faith.

You are an idiot is you think one party is better than the other, in any way.
Go push your both sides horseshit elsewhere
Oh, right... cause you think your party is "good" and the other party is "bad".

I really think you are smarter than this, but... Maybe not.

Truth is, there is one party. The division is all a circus to keep the unthinking majority in line. And, it works, hence why we have so many partisan hacks in the US who will carry water for "their party" even when its obviously complete bullshit.
CQ is a fan. You can never convince a fan of anything. They’ll jump through their own asshole looking for a way to believe in their own righteousness.
Sadly, I think you are 100% correct.
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Nothing says “American” like taking advantage of a terror attack 18 years after it happened, the shittiest part is that if the democrats had all cancelled their plans and rushed into vote and block the veto overturn, their story would be about how UnAmerican they were.
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And the story might be told by a cable news show with barely a couple million viewers a night.
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And blasted by The Daily Wire The Daily Caller The Washington Examiner National Review Shared on facebook a billion times. They just had a special election in North Carolina because a Republican committed Election Fraud. They fact you all ran in here to defend these clowns just proves you are all fine with lying and cheating and corruption if it benefits your party.
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Jun 23, 2019

Oregon Republicans are still on the lam to avoid voting on a major climate change bill

Eleven Oregon Republican lawmakers are on the run from the law, having fled the state Senate in Salem on Thursday to deny quorum for a vote on a major climate change bill. On Friday, state lawmakers announced they were shutting down the state capitol on Saturday after receiving credible threats from militia groups who support the Republicans in hiding.

Democratic Gov. Kate Brown authorized state police to find the fleeing Republican lawmakers and bring them back. The senators, who have now been on the run for four days, are each being fined $500 for every day there aren’t enough senators for a vote in a legislative session. Oregon State Police said they are also coordinating with law enforcement agencies in nearby states to find the Republicans.


Oregon Senate Republicans are hurting Oregonians across the state -- including in their own districts -- by refusing to show up for a vote. It's time for them to come back to Salem and do their jobs.

Brown lamented the stunt to avoid passing the bill, which would establish a statewide cap-and-trade scheme for carbon dioxide. “It would have been historic for Oregon, historic for the country, and frankly historic for the world,” she said during a press conference Thursday. “Unfortunately, Senate Republicans have failed to show up and failed to do their jobs.”

Sen. Brian Schatz, a Democrat from Hawaii who’s pursuing ambitious climate policy in his state, on Sunday tweeted, “Imagine being so afraid to vote on a climate bill that you physically run away.”





Another state senator in hiding, Brian Boquist, went further, threatening the police who are trying to round up the wayward lawmakers on Wednesday. “Send bachelors and come heavily armed,” he said. “I’m not going to be a political prisoner.”



All this for a climate change bill.

As Vox’s David Roberts explained, Oregon’s climate proposal, House Bill 2020, is truly significant:

Oregon would be only the second US state to mandate not just greenhouse gas emission reductions in the electricity sector, as so many other states and cities have done, but economy-wide emission reductions. Across every sector — electricity, transportation, and industry — emissions would decline 45 percent below 1990 levels by 2035 and 80 percent by 2050.

The bill would also bring Oregon into a regional carbon trading system, the Western Climate Initiative. Ted Sickinger at The Oregonian/OregonLive has a good, thorough rundown of why Republicans oppose it. But in a nutshell, they’re arguing it will hurt industry and rural residents.

Fleeing the state to thwart the bill is an unusual tactic, but it’s not the first time Oregon lawmakers have walked out on the job. In May, they left the Oregon Senate for four days to extract concessions in a school funding bill.

Democrats currently have supermajorities in both chambers of Oregon’s legislature, but they need Republicans to hold a quorum to conduct business.

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July 30, 2019

North Carolina GOP Operative Faces New Felony Charges That Allege Ballot Fraud

Prosecutors in North Carolina filed new felony charges against a Republican political operative accused of ballot tampering in a congressional election in 2018.

Leslie McCrae Dowless was charged Tuesday with two counts of felony obstruction of justice, perjury, solicitation to commit perjury, conspiracy to obstruct justice and illegal possession of absentee ballots, according to a statement by Wake County District Attorney Lorrin Freeman.

The charges relate to the tainted 9th congressional district election last year in which Republican Mark Harris led in the unofficial vote tally by a margin of about 900 votes over Democrat Dan McCready. But the election results were overturned by the state after an investigation into an absentee ballot operation on Harris' behalf suggested that Dowless had improperly collected and possibly tampered with ballots.

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Harris was not mentioned in the indictment and he chose not to run in the new election to be held this fall. That race will pit McCready against Republican Dan Bishop.

Dowless was indicted along with seven alleged co-conspirators. The operative was the alleged ringleader in a scheme instructing his co-conspirators to sign certifications that falsely stated they had seen a voter vote by absentee ballot, and improperly mailing in absentee ballots for someone who had not mailed it themselves.

This is the second set of charges for Dowless, who was arrested in February and accused of interfering in the district's primary election. He was charged then with three counts of felonious obstruction of justice, two counts of conspiracy to commit obstruction of justice and two counts of possession of absentee ballots.

State and federal authorities are still investigating the case, according to Freeman's statement.

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Can Biker be implicated if Capt's head explodes today?

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Biker wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:34 pm In other NC, two Republicans won special elections in which the Democrat party poured millions into the campaigns.
Man, they wanted those bad. :lol:
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Being forced to pour in outside money to secure a narrow victory in a previously super safe district sure does bode well for the gop.
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AnalHamster wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:08 pm Being forced to pour in outside money to secure a narrow victory in a previously super safe district sure does bode well for the gop.
I forgot...who won?
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PimpDaddy wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:14 pm
AnalHamster wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:08 pm Being forced to pour in outside money to secure a narrow victory in a previously super safe district sure does bode well for the gop.
I forgot...who won?
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