Question for the righties
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Question for the righties
All standing foursquare behind chump of course, as expected - party before country, no one expects better from any of you. I'm curious though as to the mental processes behind your betrayal of your country and constitution.
Round 1 showed collusion between chump and the chump campaign and the russian interference campaign, and obstruction of justice by chump personally. Are you refusing to admit that all happened, or declaring that you don't care?
The latest round is even clearer, chump used US foreign policy to advance his own personal political interests. As an absolute certainty he held out a phone call and meeting in the oval office - effectively endorsement and US support for the new Ukrainian PM - in exchange for investigating the Bidens and some debunked conspiracy theory about the 2016 election, and no one can reasonably doubt now that he held up the military aid for the same purpose. It was acting directly against US foreign policy interests for personal gain. Are y'all denying the facts of what happened, or declaring it just doesn't matter because chump did it? Are you happy to state as a matter of principal that you think a dem potus, e.g. obama, shold be allowed to use US foreign aid money to force allies to do his political dirty work, e.g. announcing they are investigating whether chump peed on prostitutes?
Round 1 showed collusion between chump and the chump campaign and the russian interference campaign, and obstruction of justice by chump personally. Are you refusing to admit that all happened, or declaring that you don't care?
The latest round is even clearer, chump used US foreign policy to advance his own personal political interests. As an absolute certainty he held out a phone call and meeting in the oval office - effectively endorsement and US support for the new Ukrainian PM - in exchange for investigating the Bidens and some debunked conspiracy theory about the 2016 election, and no one can reasonably doubt now that he held up the military aid for the same purpose. It was acting directly against US foreign policy interests for personal gain. Are y'all denying the facts of what happened, or declaring it just doesn't matter because chump did it? Are you happy to state as a matter of principal that you think a dem potus, e.g. obama, shold be allowed to use US foreign aid money to force allies to do his political dirty work, e.g. announcing they are investigating whether chump peed on prostitutes?
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Try to think. Though if it turns out that cognitive dissonance literally just prevents you even comprehending what I asked, that does actually answer the question.
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Link to one. I've asked a simple clear question, can you answer it?BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:28 pmThere are already 20 threads that are exactly like this one.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:27 pmTry to think. Though if it turns out that cognitive dissonance literally just prevents you even comprehending what I asked, that does actually answer the question.
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So you can't link to one, and can't answer the question you are pretending you'd be linking to answers to. Interesting. Are you capable of recognising what I just said, or is the cognitive dissonance blocking that?
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OK, so not capable of answering the question, and not capable of linking to any of what you claim are multiple threads on page 1 that do.BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:35 pmI can see you are having another stroke. We know. You hate Trump. Trump is a traitor. We are all Trump cucks. How about GFY.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:32 pmSo you can't link to one, and can't answer the question you are pretending you'd be linking to answers to. Interesting. Are you capable of recognising what I just said, or is the cognitive dissonance blocking that?
Try to think, I know it's hard for you. Try to concentrate and think for yourself. These aren't complicated questions, try to ask yourself why you are incapable of comprehending or answering them.
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Uh huh. Yeah, all that has actually happened here is I asked you some straightforward simple questions and you are unable to answer them. You've tried pretending they are answered somewhere you can't specify, made some general derps, basically just spent more time and effort evading the questions than it would have taken to simply type out your answers.
Try to think about why that is, you poor fool.
Try to think about why that is, you poor fool.
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Yes, I realise that. You lack the courage or smarts to answer or understand that you can't. This is established. I'd suggest you stop replying in the thread since you have now demonstrated you can't. But whatever floats your boat, if looking stupid does it for ya, feel free. I'm gonna wait and see if any of our slightly less retarded righties chime in. Go ahead and make another off topic derp though if it makes you feel better.
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Re: Question for the righties
I won't vote for Trump next time, though I read he has a good chance of winning. The idea that it gives so much pain to so many strident jackoffs is a bonus.
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So your answer is that you are just denying the basic established facts of the situation? Why so scared to say so then you big pussy?BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:53 pmchump used US foreign policy to advance his own personal political interests
Same old song and dance.
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That's 2, and the same inability to answer or even recognise the question. I'm assuming this is the basic common feature of the trump supporting righties, they just cannot bring themselves to think about it. It's not so much that they approve of abusing the power of the presidency for personal political gain, they'd actually be all over it if there was the least hint of any evidence of obama doing it for the steele dossier, they are just literally incapable of thinking about it when it comes to trump. It is simply beyond them to think about it, cognitive dissonance overpowers them.
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In terms of your inability to process what is said, sure. I genuinely don't think you are trying to be evasive here, I think you are just incapable of thinking about it, and unable to comprehend that now demonstrated fact. That's kind of the point.BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:58 pmYet another thread about Trump abusing power. This could have easily been added to one of the 20 other threads about Trump abusing power.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:57 pm That's 2, and the same inability to answer or even recognise the question. I'm assuming this is the basic common feature of the trump supporting righties, they just cannot bring themselves to think about it. It's not so much that they approve of abusing the power of the presidency for personal political gain, they'd actually be all over it if there was the least hint of any evidence of obama doing it for the steele dossier, they are just literally incapable of thinking about it when it comes to trump. It is simply beyond them to think about it, cognitive dissonance overpowers them.
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Interesting, so not only can no righties articulate a trump defense, we don't even have any that can admit they are a righty. The delusion runs deep.
The initial question was simply about the reasoning behind continuing to defend him, it appears there simply isn't any. They'll blindly defend him, but can't say why or even admit they do. Very odd.
The initial question was simply about the reasoning behind continuing to defend him, it appears there simply isn't any. They'll blindly defend him, but can't say why or even admit they do. Very odd.
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Or pro drug legalization. I'm also atheist, that's not usually a right wing ideal.BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:45 amI don't know many righties that are pro choice and pro gay marriage. I am.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:01 am Interesting, so not only can no righties articulate a trump defense, we don't even have any that can admit they are a righty. The delusion runs deep.
The initial question was simply about the reasoning behind continuing to defend him, it appears there simply isn't any. They'll blindly defend him, but can't say why or even admit they do. Very odd.
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Re: Question for the righties
I can only speak for myself but for me its very simple: As bad as Donny is, I believe the direction a Democrat POTUS would take the country with Executive Orders, appointments, nominees etc. would be worse than what we're enduring with ol' Don.
Do I wish there were a better alternative on the right than Trump? Certainly.
Do I think hes an asshole? Sure.
Has he done some demonstrably unethical/questionable things? Almost certainly.
As it is though I'll take Donny over any of the Dims ALL DAY LONG.
Conversely, he has politically done numerous things that I agree with. And that is where the distinction manifests itself. I wont be voting for his personality, I'll be voting for the direction of the country.
If you're asking me to defend his behavior I cant/wont. Hes a toolbag who skirts the limits of the law at best and unabashedly breaks it at worst. He is what he is and he hasnt changed. For me and I suspect most others, its not about "supporting" him; its about keeping the wackadoodle Left and unchecked aggressive progressivism at bay. Currently he is our only option in that regard. Its not like another R is running.
Do I wish there were a better alternative on the right than Trump? Certainly.
Do I think hes an asshole? Sure.
Has he done some demonstrably unethical/questionable things? Almost certainly.
As it is though I'll take Donny over any of the Dims ALL DAY LONG.
Conversely, he has politically done numerous things that I agree with. And that is where the distinction manifests itself. I wont be voting for his personality, I'll be voting for the direction of the country.
If you're asking me to defend his behavior I cant/wont. Hes a toolbag who skirts the limits of the law at best and unabashedly breaks it at worst. He is what he is and he hasnt changed. For me and I suspect most others, its not about "supporting" him; its about keeping the wackadoodle Left and unchecked aggressive progressivism at bay. Currently he is our only option in that regard. Its not like another R is running.
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Re: Question for the righties
More or lessCHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:29 am I can only speak for myself but for me its very simple: As bad as Donny is, I believe the direction a Democrat POTUS would take the country with Executive Orders, appointments, nominees etc. would be worse than what we're enduring with ol' Don.
Do I wish there were a better alternative on the right than Trump? Certainly.
Do I think hes an asshole? Sure.
Has he done some demonstrably unethical/questionable things? Almost certainly.
As it is though I'll take Donny over any of the Dims ALL DAY LONG.
Conversely, he has politically done numerous things that I agree with. And that is where the distinction manifests itself. I wont be voting for his personality, I'll be voting for the direction of the country.
If you're asking me to defend his behavior I cant/wont. Hes a toolbag who skirts the limits of the law at best and unabashedly breaks it at worst. He is what he is and he hasnt changed. For me and I suspect most others, its not about "supporting" him; its about keeping the wackadoodle Left and unchecked aggressive progressivism at bay. Currently he is our only option in that regard. Its not like another R is running.
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So you'll just ignore the impeachable offenses because you like his politics? Party before constitution?CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:29 am I can only speak for myself but for me its very simple: As bad as Donny is, I believe the direction a Democrat POTUS would take the country with Executive Orders, appointments, nominees etc. would be worse than what we're enduring with ol' Don.
Do I wish there were a better alternative on the right than Trump? Certainly.
Do I think hes an asshole? Sure.
Has he done some demonstrably unethical/questionable things? Almost certainly.
As it is though I'll take Donny over any of the Dims ALL DAY LONG.
Conversely, he has politically done numerous things that I agree with. And that is where the distinction manifests itself. I wont be voting for his personality, I'll be voting for the direction of the country.
If you're asking me to defend his behavior I cant/wont. Hes a toolbag who skirts the limits of the law at best and unabashedly breaks it at worst. He is what he is and he hasnt changed. For me and I suspect most others, its not about "supporting" him; its about keeping the wackadoodle Left and unchecked aggressive progressivism at bay. Currently he is our only option in that regard. Its not like another R is running.
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Actually, I would look at it like this: Country, lifestyle and culture before politics. Capitalism before Socialism. Traditional mores before PC doublespeak and behavior. A sense of humor before SJW outrage. A willingness to buck world opinion instead of bow to it. A willingness to do (supposedly) unpopular things before fealty to optics. A willingness to call out tainted media instead of kiss their ass. Among others...AnalHamster wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:38 amSo you'll just ignore the impeachable offenses because you like his politics? Party before constitution?CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:29 am I can only speak for myself but for me its very simple: As bad as Donny is, I believe the direction a Democrat POTUS would take the country with Executive Orders, appointments, nominees etc. would be worse than what we're enduring with ol' Don.
Do I wish there were a better alternative on the right than Trump? Certainly.
Do I think hes an asshole? Sure.
Has he done some demonstrably unethical/questionable things? Almost certainly.
As it is though I'll take Donny over any of the Dims ALL DAY LONG.
Conversely, he has politically done numerous things that I agree with. And that is where the distinction manifests itself. I wont be voting for his personality, I'll be voting for the direction of the country.
If you're asking me to defend his behavior I cant/wont. Hes a toolbag who skirts the limits of the law at best and unabashedly breaks it at worst. He is what he is and he hasnt changed. For me and I suspect most others, its not about "supporting" him; its about keeping the wackadoodle Left and unchecked aggressive progressivism at bay. Currently he is our only option in that regard. Its not like another R is running.
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Parse it how you want if that makes you feel better, what I'm trying to determine is if you are aware that you are advocating ignoring impeachable offences and putting your party above the constitution, or denying the reality of what has occurred. Trump colluded with the Russian interference campaign, obstructed the investigation into it, openly admitted soliciting foreign interference in the next campaign and openly obstructs the constitutionally mandated power of Congress to investigate that. Do you want to set the precedent that is all ok?CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:49 amActually, I would look at it like this: Country, lifestyle and culture before politics. Capitalism before Socialism. Traditional mores before PC doublespeak and behavior. A sense of humor before SJW outrage. A willingness to buck world opinion instead of bow to it. A willingness to do (supposedly) unpopular things before fealty to optics. A willingness to call out tainted media instead of kiss their ass. Among others...AnalHamster wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:38 amSo you'll just ignore the impeachable offenses because you like his politics? Party before constitution?CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:29 am I can only speak for myself but for me its very simple: As bad as Donny is, I believe the direction a Democrat POTUS would take the country with Executive Orders, appointments, nominees etc. would be worse than what we're enduring with ol' Don.
Do I wish there were a better alternative on the right than Trump? Certainly.
Do I think hes an asshole? Sure.
Has he done some demonstrably unethical/questionable things? Almost certainly.
As it is though I'll take Donny over any of the Dims ALL DAY LONG.
Conversely, he has politically done numerous things that I agree with. And that is where the distinction manifests itself. I wont be voting for his personality, I'll be voting for the direction of the country.
If you're asking me to defend his behavior I cant/wont. Hes a toolbag who skirts the limits of the law at best and unabashedly breaks it at worst. He is what he is and he hasnt changed. For me and I suspect most others, its not about "supporting" him; its about keeping the wackadoodle Left and unchecked aggressive progressivism at bay. Currently he is our only option in that regard. Its not like another R is running.
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And it will be judged not OK if the House votes to impeach as that is their task. If he is impeached and then removed by the senate I will not vote for him. Until then, he will be getting my vote. Simples.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:12 pmParse it how you want if that makes you feel better, what I'm trying to determine is if you are aware that you are advocating ignoring impeachable offences and putting your party above the constitution, or denying the reality of what has occurred. Trump colluded with the Russian interference campaign, obstructed the investigation into it, openly admitted soliciting foreign interference in the next campaign and openly obstructs the constitutionally mandated power of Congress to investigate that. Do you want to set the precedent that is all ok?CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:49 amActually, I would look at it like this: Country, lifestyle and culture before politics. Capitalism before Socialism. Traditional mores before PC doublespeak and behavior. A sense of humor before SJW outrage. A willingness to buck world opinion instead of bow to it. A willingness to do (supposedly) unpopular things before fealty to optics. A willingness to call out tainted media instead of kiss their ass. Among others...AnalHamster wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:38 amSo you'll just ignore the impeachable offenses because you like his politics? Party before constitution?CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:29 am I can only speak for myself but for me its very simple: As bad as Donny is, I believe the direction a Democrat POTUS would take the country with Executive Orders, appointments, nominees etc. would be worse than what we're enduring with ol' Don.
Do I wish there were a better alternative on the right than Trump? Certainly.
Do I think hes an asshole? Sure.
Has he done some demonstrably unethical/questionable things? Almost certainly.
As it is though I'll take Donny over any of the Dims ALL DAY LONG.
Conversely, he has politically done numerous things that I agree with. And that is where the distinction manifests itself. I wont be voting for his personality, I'll be voting for the direction of the country.
If you're asking me to defend his behavior I cant/wont. Hes a toolbag who skirts the limits of the law at best and unabashedly breaks it at worst. He is what he is and he hasnt changed. For me and I suspect most others, its not about "supporting" him; its about keeping the wackadoodle Left and unchecked aggressive progressivism at bay. Currently he is our only option in that regard. Its not like another R is running.
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I was honest about it. Why is Trump so desperate to keep Congress from looking at his when The IRS is legally required to turn them over? Why are you okay with Trump sticking our tax monies in his pocket?
(Don't worry, I don't expect you to actually answer those questions)
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The house will impeach, the Senate will acquit, you know this and you know it is because a Republican Senate will no longer convict a Republican president, regardless of guilt. I'm asking you a very simple question here, are you in denial about him committing impeachable offenses, or do you just not care that he did?CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:49 pmAnd it will be judged not OK if the House votes to impeach as that is their task. If he is impeached and then removed by the senate I will not vote for him. Until then, he will be getting my vote. Simples.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:12 pmParse it how you want if that makes you feel better, what I'm trying to determine is if you are aware that you are advocating ignoring impeachable offences and putting your party above the constitution, or denying the reality of what has occurred. Trump colluded with the Russian interference campaign, obstructed the investigation into it, openly admitted soliciting foreign interference in the next campaign and openly obstructs the constitutionally mandated power of Congress to investigate that. Do you want to set the precedent that is all ok?CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:49 amActually, I would look at it like this: Country, lifestyle and culture before politics. Capitalism before Socialism. Traditional mores before PC doublespeak and behavior. A sense of humor before SJW outrage. A willingness to buck world opinion instead of bow to it. A willingness to do (supposedly) unpopular things before fealty to optics. A willingness to call out tainted media instead of kiss their ass. Among others...AnalHamster wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:38 amSo you'll just ignore the impeachable offenses because you like his politics? Party before constitution?CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:29 am I can only speak for myself but for me its very simple: As bad as Donny is, I believe the direction a Democrat POTUS would take the country with Executive Orders, appointments, nominees etc. would be worse than what we're enduring with ol' Don.
Do I wish there were a better alternative on the right than Trump? Certainly.
Do I think hes an asshole? Sure.
Has he done some demonstrably unethical/questionable things? Almost certainly.
As it is though I'll take Donny over any of the Dims ALL DAY LONG.
Conversely, he has politically done numerous things that I agree with. And that is where the distinction manifests itself. I wont be voting for his personality, I'll be voting for the direction of the country.
If you're asking me to defend his behavior I cant/wont. Hes a toolbag who skirts the limits of the law at best and unabashedly breaks it at worst. He is what he is and he hasnt changed. For me and I suspect most others, its not about "supporting" him; its about keeping the wackadoodle Left and unchecked aggressive progressivism at bay. Currently he is our only option in that regard. Its not like another R is running.
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That's none of your business. But I do see you didn't answer my questions (as expected)BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:05 pmI have no idea what is in Trumps tax returns. I do know he paid more than you. Are you paying off your back taxes?CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:52 pmI was honest about it. Why is Trump so desperate to keep Congress from looking at his when The IRS is legally required to turn them over? Why are you okay with Trump sticking our tax monies in his pocket?
(Don't worry, I don't expect you to actually answer those questions)
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