I'm sure it's nothing, no need to be concerned
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I'm sure it's nothing, no need to be concerned
China, Russia, Iran begin joint naval drills
The Russian, Chinese and Iranian navies have started their first trilateral maritime exercises. They are aimed at strengthening regional military cooperation amid heightened tensions between Iran and the United States.
https://www.dw.com/en/china-russia-iran ... 7-xml-atom
The Russian, Chinese and Iranian navies have started their first trilateral maritime exercises. They are aimed at strengthening regional military cooperation amid heightened tensions between Iran and the United States.
https://www.dw.com/en/china-russia-iran ... 7-xml-atom
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They can have Turkey, too.
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And the 1/2 aircraft carrier between them is sending shimmers down the US Navy spine. US Navy- "hold my beer".DandyDon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:46 pm China, Russia, Iran begin joint naval drills
The Russian, Chinese and Iranian navies have started their first trilateral maritime exercises. They are aimed at strengthening regional military cooperation amid heightened tensions between Iran and the United States.
https://www.dw.com/en/china-russia-iran ... 7-xml-atom
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That would give them 3 of the top 10 strength militaries in the world. No wonder Trump has been kissing Erdogan's ass.
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Re: I'm sure it's nothing, no need to be concerned
Imma say this. There is a lot to be worried about from those countries, none of them are the Navys.
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I'm glad someone can see beyond their nose. Their Navys have nothing to do with it, we don't need those 3 becoming BFFs.necronomous wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:13 pm Imma say this. There is a lot to be worried about from those countries, none of them are the Navys.
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I don't want war with anyone, especially not another combination of the three.DandyDon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:08 pmI'm glad someone can see beyond their nose. Their Navys have nothing to do with it, we don't need those 3 becoming BFFs.necronomous wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:13 pm Imma say this. There is a lot to be worried about from those countries, none of them are the Navys.
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Re: I'm sure it's nothing, no need to be concerned
Someone buys into the hysteria.DandyDon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:08 pmI'm glad someone can see beyond their nose. Their Navys have nothing to do with it, we don't need those 3 becoming BFFs.necronomous wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:13 pm Imma say this. There is a lot to be worried about from those countries, none of them are the Navys.
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We got us a new neocon?
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All I'm saying is, they have shitty Navys.
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Does it matter? Like guerilla warfare, nobody is going head to head against the US Navy.
The US Military has been fighting in Afghanistan for 18 years and still hasn't won and doesn't know if they ever will. I doubt anyone thinks the Taliban and other groups are superior to the US military. Doesn't matter.
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Nope. It doesn’t matter. We know who Iran or Russia can use by proxy China will have it figured out soon enough.
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The effectiveness of the navy is questionable anyway. In any major conflict I can easily see a carrier sinking following a barrage of cruise missiles.beagleboy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:17 pmDoes it matter? Like guerilla warfare, nobody is going head to head against the US Navy.
The US Military has been fighting in Afghanistan for 18 years and still hasn't won and doesn't know if they ever will. I doubt anyone thinks the Taliban and other groups are superior to the US military. Doesn't matter.
wut?
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Sinking? Not impossible, but improbable. Being mission killed and no longer able to launch/recover aircraft is more likely.Wut wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:19 pmThe effectiveness of the navy is questionable anyway. In any major conflict I can easily see a carrier sinking following a barrage of cruise missiles.beagleboy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:17 pmDoes it matter? Like guerilla warfare, nobody is going head to head against the US Navy.
The US Military has been fighting in Afghanistan for 18 years and still hasn't won and doesn't know if they ever will. I doubt anyone thinks the Taliban and other groups are superior to the US military. Doesn't matter.
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That what I was saying.beagleboy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:17 pmDoes it matter? Like guerilla warfare, nobody is going head to head against the US Navy.
The US Military has been fighting in Afghanistan for 18 years and still hasn't won and doesn't know if they ever will. I doubt anyone thinks the Taliban and other groups are superior to the US military. Doesn't matter.
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Fighting Taliban, right?
How do you win against that? Pretty much have to kill everyone in the entire country to prevent a resurgence of Taliban after we left.
How do you win against that? Pretty much have to kill everyone in the entire country to prevent a resurgence of Taliban after we left.
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That's pretty much it. Unless we go old school scorched earth and just destroy the entire country and populace we will never "win" another war. Everyone knows the blueprint.VinceBordenIII wrote: ↑Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:31 pm Fighting Taliban, right?
How do you win against that? Pretty much have to kill everyone in the entire country to prevent a resurgence of Taliban after we left.
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If the hypersonic missiles Russia just claimed to have deployed actually work and can hit a target the size of a carrier, carriers are no longer relevant in a serious conflict. There is simply no defense against a hypersonic missile. Pretty big if though, both if it works and if they would dare to use it for fear of the counterstrike. I'd expect in the event of a hot war the US would have to issue a threat that the use of hypersonic weapons would be regarded as equivalent to a nuclear strike.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:42 pmSinking? Not impossible, but improbable. Being mission killed and no longer able to launch/recover aircraft is more likely.Wut wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:19 pmThe effectiveness of the navy is questionable anyway. In any major conflict I can easily see a carrier sinking following a barrage of cruise missiles.beagleboy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:17 pmDoes it matter? Like guerilla warfare, nobody is going head to head against the US Navy.
The US Military has been fighting in Afghanistan for 18 years and still hasn't won and doesn't know if they ever will. I doubt anyone thinks the Taliban and other groups are superior to the US military. Doesn't matter.
A carrier in the face of those weapons would just be a big fat sitting duck with no possible defense against them. It's a game changer that takes away a fairly large chunk of the overwhelming advantage the US has built up over decades in global military reach.
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I don't believe anything Russia says about it's military strengths. If Russia fired a hypersonic missile and sank a Nimitz Class Carrier I'd expect that Moscow would be glass within one hour of it occurring.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:08 pmIf the hypersonic missiles Russia just claimed to have deployed actually work and can hit a target the size of a carrier, carriers are no longer relevant in a serious conflict. There is simply no defense against a hypersonic missile. Pretty big if though, both if it works and if they would dare to use it for fear of the counterstrike. I'd expect in the event of a hot war the US would have to issue a threat that the use of hypersonic space weapons would be regarded as equivalent to a nuclear strike.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:42 pmSinking? Not impossible, but improbable. Being mission killed and no longer able to launch/recover aircraft is more likely.Wut wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:19 pmThe effectiveness of the navy is questionable anyway. In any major conflict I can easily see a carrier sinking following a barrage of cruise missiles.beagleboy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:17 pmDoes it matter? Like guerilla warfare, nobody is going head to head against the US Navy.
The US Military has been fighting in Afghanistan for 18 years and still hasn't won and doesn't know if they ever will. I doubt anyone thinks the Taliban and other groups are superior to the US military. Doesn't matter.
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Nah, MAD is still in effect. They may be a 3rd rate military power these days but they can still launch an overwhelming nuclear counterstrike just by the numbers. If Moscow is glass then so is most of the US, even if y'all take out a majority of the incoming.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:12 pmI don't believe anything Russia says about it's military strengths. If Russia fired a hypersonic missile and sank a Nimitz Class Carrier I'd expect that Moscow would be glass within one hour of it occurring.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:08 pmIf the hypersonic missiles Russia just claimed to have deployed actually work and can hit a target the size of a carrier, carriers are no longer relevant in a serious conflict. There is simply no defense against a hypersonic missile. Pretty big if though, both if it works and if they would dare to use it for fear of the counterstrike. I'd expect in the event of a hot war the US would have to issue a threat that the use of hypersonic space weapons would be regarded as equivalent to a nuclear strike.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:42 pmSinking? Not impossible, but improbable. Being mission killed and no longer able to launch/recover aircraft is more likely.Wut wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:19 pmThe effectiveness of the navy is questionable anyway. In any major conflict I can easily see a carrier sinking following a barrage of cruise missiles.beagleboy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:17 pmDoes it matter? Like guerilla warfare, nobody is going head to head against the US Navy.
The US Military has been fighting in Afghanistan for 18 years and still hasn't won and doesn't know if they ever will. I doubt anyone thinks the Taliban and other groups are superior to the US military. Doesn't matter.
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Best I can figure from what I've read, our military folks are chuckling at Russia's attempt to create a nuclear-powered cruise missile. We apparently explored the idea and figured we might nuke our own people!CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:12 pmI don't believe anything Russia says about it's military strengths. If Russia fired a hypersonic missile and sank a Nimitz Class Carrier I'd expect that Moscow would be glass within one hour of it occurring.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:08 pmIf the hypersonic missiles Russia just claimed to have deployed actually work and can hit a target the size of a carrier, carriers are no longer relevant in a serious conflict. There is simply no defense against a hypersonic missile. Pretty big if though, both if it works and if they would dare to use it for fear of the counterstrike. I'd expect in the event of a hot war the US would have to issue a threat that the use of hypersonic space weapons would be regarded as equivalent to a nuclear strike.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:42 pmSinking? Not impossible, but improbable. Being mission killed and no longer able to launch/recover aircraft is more likely.Wut wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:19 pmThe effectiveness of the navy is questionable anyway. In any major conflict I can easily see a carrier sinking following a barrage of cruise missiles.beagleboy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:17 pmDoes it matter? Like guerilla warfare, nobody is going head to head against the US Navy.
The US Military has been fighting in Afghanistan for 18 years and still hasn't won and doesn't know if they ever will. I doubt anyone thinks the Taliban and other groups are superior to the US military. Doesn't matter.
(They appear to have killed off some of their scientists with it already)
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The 3rd grade / "I've got a big swinging dick" call out that we'll turn an entire country into glass is always a fun and psychotic call out. I'm guessing in a bar full of idiots, calling for the killing of 100+ million people is impressive and certainly not psychotic.
They aren't shooting one off to take out an aircraft carrier, they are to combat our space based missile defense system that the US Military talked about a year ago and the currently deployed anti-ballistic missile system up in Alaska.
In a nuclear war, who cares if you kill 2-3 million of your own? As long as 3-4 get through - you've achieved the desired results. In a nuclear war you are looking at millions dead anyway.
They aren't shooting one off to take out an aircraft carrier, they are to combat our space based missile defense system that the US Military talked about a year ago and the currently deployed anti-ballistic missile system up in Alaska.
In a nuclear war, who cares if you kill 2-3 million of your own? As long as 3-4 get through - you've achieved the desired results. In a nuclear war you are looking at millions dead anyway.
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Heck, if you're going to nuke stuff, it might be simpler to just blown it up where it is.beagleboy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:49 pm The 3rd grade / "I've got a big swinging dick" call out that we'll turn an entire country into glass is always a fun and psychotic call out. I'm guessing in a bar full of idiots, calling for the killing of 100+ million people is impressive and certainly not psychotic.
They aren't shooting one off to take out an aircraft carrier, they are to combat our space based missile defense system that the US Military talked about a year ago and the currently deployed anti-ballistic missile system up in Alaska.
In a nuclear war, who cares if you kill 2-3 million of your own? As long as 3-4 get through - you've achieved the desired results. In a nuclear war you are looking at millions dead anyway.
The end result for humanity will most likely be the same.
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It would be far easier to nuke a carrier in port than hit a moving carrier at sea anyway.
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