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Trump administration blocking Iran's top diplomat Going to UN

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The Trump administration is barring Iran’s top diplomat from entering the United States this week to address the United Nations Security Council about the U.S. assassination of Iran’s top military official in Baghdad, violating the terms of a 1947 headquarters agreement requiring Washington to permit foreign officials into the country to conduct U.N. business, according to three diplomatic sources.
What an assclown

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The same thing happened in 1988, when the US tried to block Yasser Arafat from addressing the UN in New York. The UN promptly resolved to move to Geneva if the US didn't reverse itself immediately.
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CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:19 am The same thing happened in 1988, when the US tried to block Yasser Arafat from addressing the UN in New York. The UN promptly resolved to move to Geneva if the US didn't reverse itself immediately.
But Arafat didn't represent an actual recognized country.
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FSchmertz wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:33 am
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:19 am The same thing happened in 1988, when the US tried to block Yasser Arafat from addressing the UN in New York. The UN promptly resolved to move to Geneva if the US didn't reverse itself immediately.
But Arafat didn't represent an actual recognized country.
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CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:19 am The same thing happened in 1988, when the US tried to block Yasser Arafat from addressing the UN in New York. The UN promptly resolved to move to Geneva if the US didn't reverse itself immediately.
I have no problem with that.
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Blast wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:16 am
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:19 am The same thing happened in 1988, when the US tried to block Yasser Arafat from addressing the UN in New York. The UN promptly resolved to move to Geneva if the US didn't reverse itself immediately.
I have no problem with that.
Given America's embarrassing estrangement from the world community over the Palestinian issue, Shultz finally relented on Dec. 14, 1988, saying the United States would recognize the PLO. Talks began the next day in Tunisia between the PLO and U.S. representatives, but they were so constrained by U.S. restrictions that they made no progress. Under Israeli prodding, they were broken off in 1992.
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CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:19 am The same thing happened in 1988, when the US tried to block Yasser Arafat from addressing the UN in New York. The UN promptly resolved to move to Geneva if the US didn't reverse itself immediately.
What advantage does the USA get for having the UN in New York? Or what detriment would it be to the USA to it to be in Geneva?
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Antknot wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:45 am
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:19 am The same thing happened in 1988, when the US tried to block Yasser Arafat from addressing the UN in New York. The UN promptly resolved to move to Geneva if the US didn't reverse itself immediately.
What advantage does the USA get for having the UN in New York? Or what detriment would it be to the USA to it to be in Geneva?
Found this

An economic impact report conducted by the NYC Mayor's Office for International Affairs in found that the UN boosts the NYC economy by $3.69 billion each year.

It's probably hosting The UN makes America seem importanter, ask any New Yorker and they would be happy to see it leave. It makes traffic unbearable
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Antknot wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:45 am
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:19 am The same thing happened in 1988, when the US tried to block Yasser Arafat from addressing the UN in New York. The UN promptly resolved to move to Geneva if the US didn't reverse itself immediately.
What advantage does the USA get for having the UN in New York? Or what detriment would it be to the USA to it to be in Geneva?
We pretty much founded it, and we're continuing to shit on it.

Not paying our bills, and now apparently not playing by the rules establishing the UN Headquarters in New York.
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CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:52 am
Antknot wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:45 am
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:19 am The same thing happened in 1988, when the US tried to block Yasser Arafat from addressing the UN in New York. The UN promptly resolved to move to Geneva if the US didn't reverse itself immediately.
What advantage does the USA get for having the UN in New York? Or what detriment would it be to the USA to it to be in Geneva?
Found this

An economic impact report conducted by the NYC Mayor's Office for International Affairs in found that the UN boosts the NYC economy by $3.69 billion each year.

It's probably hosting The UN makes America seem importanter, ask any New Yorker and they would be happy to see it leave. It makes traffic unbearable
Chump has proven that he doesn't give a shit about NY. His recent tax policies were designed to screw it.

In fact, he's run away to Florida now.
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FSchmertz wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:55 am
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:52 am
Antknot wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:45 am
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:19 am The same thing happened in 1988, when the US tried to block Yasser Arafat from addressing the UN in New York. The UN promptly resolved to move to Geneva if the US didn't reverse itself immediately.
What advantage does the USA get for having the UN in New York? Or what detriment would it be to the USA to it to be in Geneva?
Found this

An economic impact report conducted by the NYC Mayor's Office for International Affairs in found that the UN boosts the NYC economy by $3.69 billion each year.

It's probably hosting The UN makes America seem importanter, ask any New Yorker and they would be happy to see it leave. It makes traffic unbearable
Chump has proven that he doesn't give a shit about NY. His recent tax policies were designed to screw it.

In fact, he's run away to Florida now.
Well nobody is trying to move The UN's headquarters
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Biker wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:10 am
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:34 am
FSchmertz wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:33 am
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:19 am The same thing happened in 1988, when the US tried to block Yasser Arafat from addressing the UN in New York. The UN promptly resolved to move to Geneva if the US didn't reverse itself immediately.
But Arafat didn't represent an actual recognized country.
:lol:
Egypt?
Palestine, check any map :lol:
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CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:15 am
Biker wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:10 am
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:34 am
FSchmertz wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:33 am
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:19 am The same thing happened in 1988, when the US tried to block Yasser Arafat from addressing the UN in New York. The UN promptly resolved to move to Geneva if the US didn't reverse itself immediately.
But Arafat didn't represent an actual recognized country.
:lol:
Egypt?
Palestine, check any map :lol:
Palestine 194 is an ongoing diplomatic campaign by the Palestinian National Authority to gain membership in the United Nations for the State of Palestine.
So not a recognized country with UN membership

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_194
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BigRedRetard wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:06 am
FSchmertz wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:22 am
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:15 am
Biker wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:10 am
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:34 am
FSchmertz wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:33 am But Arafat didn't represent an actual recognized country.
:lol:
Egypt?
Palestine, check any map :lol:
Palestine 194 is an ongoing diplomatic campaign by the Palestinian National Authority to gain membership in the United Nations for the State of Palestine.
So not a recognized country with UN membership

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_194
Correct, it is not a recognized country nor will it ever be,
You seem pretty passionate about your hate for all things Palestinian...any particular reason? Just curious.
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FSchmertz wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:51 pm
The Trump administration is barring Iran’s top diplomat from entering the United States this week to address the United Nations Security Council about the U.S. assassination of Iran’s top military official in Baghdad, violating the terms of a 1947 headquarters agreement requiring Washington to permit foreign officials into the country to conduct U.N. business, according to three diplomatic sources.
What an assclown

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/06/tr ... y-council/
Per Reuters:

Iran’s mission to the United Nations said: “We have seen the media reports, but we have not received any official communication from either the U.S. or the U.N. regarding Foreign Minister Zarif’s visa.”

Seems this story line is a bit premature.
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beagleboy wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:01 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:51 pm
The Trump administration is barring Iran’s top diplomat from entering the United States this week to address the United Nations Security Council about the U.S. assassination of Iran’s top military official in Baghdad, violating the terms of a 1947 headquarters agreement requiring Washington to permit foreign officials into the country to conduct U.N. business, according to three diplomatic sources.
What an assclown

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/06/tr ... y-council/
Per Reuters:

Iran’s mission to the United Nations said: “We have seen the media reports, but we have not received any official communication from either the U.S. or the U.N. regarding Foreign Minister Zarif’s visa.”

Seems this story line is a bit premature.
And yet the NY Times is reporting it as recently as 3 hours ago.

May be lots of back channel stuff going on on the diplomatic front right now.
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Update:
A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Reuters on Monday that Zarif would not be given a visa to attend Thursday’s meeting. Zarif confirmed on Tuesday that he would not be given a U.S. visa.

“What we know is that the U.S. State Secretary (Mike Pompeo), in a call to the Secretary General of the United Nations (Antonio Guterres), said: ‘We did not have time to issue a visa for Mohammad Javad Zarif and we will not issue a visa’,” said Zarif, according to Iran’s semi-official ISNA news agency.

“The Secretary General responded by saying that it is Iran’s right to take part in this session,” Zarif said.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq ... SKBN1Z62BP
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FSchmertz wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:55 am
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:52 am
Antknot wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:45 am
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:19 am The same thing happened in 1988, when the US tried to block Yasser Arafat from addressing the UN in New York. The UN promptly resolved to move to Geneva if the US didn't reverse itself immediately.
What advantage does the USA get for having the UN in New York? Or what detriment would it be to the USA to it to be in Geneva?
Found this

An economic impact report conducted by the NYC Mayor's Office for International Affairs in found that the UN boosts the NYC economy by $3.69 billion each year.

It's probably hosting The UN makes America seem importanter, ask any New Yorker and they would be happy to see it leave. It makes traffic unbearable
Chump has proven that he doesn't give a shit about NY. His recent tax policies were designed to screw it.

In fact, he's run away to Florida now.
He's paid more in state taxes than you will ever be worth.
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Charliesheen wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:20 am
FSchmertz wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:55 am
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:52 am
Antknot wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:45 am
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:19 am The same thing happened in 1988, when the US tried to block Yasser Arafat from addressing the UN in New York. The UN promptly resolved to move to Geneva if the US didn't reverse itself immediately.
What advantage does the USA get for having the UN in New York? Or what detriment would it be to the USA to it to be in Geneva?
Found this

An economic impact report conducted by the NYC Mayor's Office for International Affairs in found that the UN boosts the NYC economy by $3.69 billion each year.

It's probably hosting The UN makes America seem importanter, ask any New Yorker and they would be happy to see it leave. It makes traffic unbearable
Chump has proven that he doesn't give a shit about NY. His recent tax policies were designed to screw it.

In fact, he's run away to Florida now.
He's paid more in state taxes than you will ever be worth.
Tough to get a source on that, amirite?
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Ur the last person on this site to say jack about paying taxes, or by extension any sort of personal responsibility.
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Charliesheen wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:39 pm Ur the last person on this site to say jack about paying taxes, or by extension any sort of personal responsibility.
I'll say anything I fucking please bub
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Obviously.

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Charliesheen wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:47 pm Obviously.

Hours and hours, every day.
Keep whining, it suits you
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FSchmertz wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:45 pm And yet the NY Times is reporting it as recently as 3 hours ago.

May be lots of back channel stuff going on on the diplomatic front right now.
The Foreign Minister was on NPR yesterday being interviewed and said he was told the US didn't have enough time (20+ days) to approve his visa. That's not denying him but it's obviously playing games.

Considering this is all probably over with, things will now return to normal for a while.
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