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Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....

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Project Veritas is an American Right-wing activist group. The group uses "disguises and hidden cameras to uncover supposed liberal bias and corruption" The group is known for producing deceptively edited videos about media organizations and left-leaning groups. In a 2018 book on propaganda and disinformation in U.S. politics, three Harvard University scholars refer to Project Veritas as a "right-wing disinformation outfit".


Project Veritas was founded in 2010 by James O'Keefe.

The organization has produced deceptively edited videos targeted against ACORN, NPR and others. During the 2016 campaign, the organization falsely claimed to have shown that the Hillary Clinton campaign accepted illegal donations from foreign sources. O'Keefe was sued for defamation by a man he wrongfully depicted as a "willing participant in an underage sex-trafficking scheme"; the suit led to a settlement in 2013, in which O'Keefe issued an apology and paid $100,000.

In 2017, Project Veritas was caught in a failed attempt to trick the The Washington Post into posting a fabricated story about Roy Moore Rather than uncritically publish a story that accused Republican candidate Moore of impregnating a teenager, The Washington Post critically examined the story that they were presented with, checked the source, assessed her credibility and ultimately found that there was no merit to her claims, and that instead Project Veritas were trying to dupe The Washington Post.

O'Keefe has been barred from fundraising for Project Veritas in Florida and other states because of his federal criminal record for entering a federal building under fraudulent pretenses.
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Biker wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:25 pm
AnalHamster wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:36 pm
Biker wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:58 pm
AnalHamster wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:46 pm Just how many times do you have to be duped by james o'keefe before you twig? :lol:
Which part of the video is inaccurate? The dude or his words?
All of it I assume, at this point since I know your source to a criminal who has over and over been caught lying and duping folks like you with false editing to misprepresent context and pretend folks said things they didn't, occasionally breaking the law to do so. I don't watch his stuff, any more than I'd spend my time watching a conspiracy nut rant on youtube or similar quality source. How about you summarise it if you think there's anything there worth seeing.
So nothing. Got it
Nothing about a clip I didn't watch, no. We could discuss his criminal conviction or the clips I did watch and how they are intentionally misleading if you like?

Do you understand that I'm rejecting the source because it is a provably bad source? Kinda seems like a pretty simple point doesn't it? If you feel he has now learned journalism and created something that isn't deliberately misleading bullshit like his past stuff, do feel free to go into some detail. I'm assuming you won't, since you too recognise just how bad this source is. Even fox I'd still look at what is actually being said and dispute it, but this guy is now in the camp with youtube conspiracy nuts, it just doesn't even warrant a viewing.
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Antknot wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:00 pm Damn, CQ's defending commies now.
Sanders was a member of the Democratic Socialist party - not the communist party. He only vacationed in the Soviet Union.

Being a Dem Socialist is sort of the new hippie thing to do. The leaders of the Dem party like Nancy Pelosi have denounced it and said her party is NOT Socialist but we should ignore that and focus on the fact he's been a Democrat for 4 years!!!!
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Putin's cock vacations in the gop's mouth
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beagleboy wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:10 pm
Antknot wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:00 pm Damn, CQ's defending commies now.
Sanders was a member of the Democratic Socialist party - not the communist party. He only vacationed in the Soviet Union.

Being a Dem Socialist is sort of the new hippie thing to do. The leaders of the Dem party like Nancy Pelosi have denounced it and said her party is NOT Socialist but we should ignore that and focus on the fact he's been a Democrat for 4 years!!!!
They're just being more upfront about it now. FDR was a Democratic Socialist.
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Elizabeth Warren says her plan to eliminate student loan debt can bypass Congress
Presidential contender Sen. Elizabeth Warren said Tuesday that she would begin to eliminate student loan debt on the first day of her administration, using legal tools that would allow her to bypass Congress.
The plan, which comes weeks before voting begins in the first primary and caucus states, adds urgency to legislation she introduced over the summer to cancel the bulk of the nation’s outstanding student debt.
Warren said she will direct her secretary of Education to begin to “compromise and modify” federal student loans up to $50,000 for 95% of those with outstanding student debt, or 42 million people.
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Antknot wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:00 pm Damn, CQ's defending commies now.
Oh noes! The communist hoardes are coming!!!!!!!!
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Wut wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:29 pm
Antknot wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:00 pm Damn, CQ's defending commies now.
Oh noes! The communist hoardes are coming!!!!!!!!
Still waiting for that link that says Hillary called Bernie a Russian asset, you haven't seen it have you?
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Biker wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:37 pm
Stapes wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:33 pm I'm going to go out on a limb and say he isn't a "typical" Bernie supporter...….but you prove again you are a shit democrat....lol
Im more of a Democrat that Bernie is
Bernie won't vote Trump if he fails to secure the nomination
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Biker wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:36 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:33 pm
Biker wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:37 pm
Stapes wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:33 pm I'm going to go out on a limb and say he isn't a "typical" Bernie supporter...….but you prove again you are a shit democrat....lol
Im more of a Democrat that Bernie is
Bernie won't vote Trump if he fails to secure the nomination
I dont even think Bernie is a member of our party
Should I post a picture of a Charger?
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Re: The typical Sanders supporter.....

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Biker wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:41 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:39 pm
Biker wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:36 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:33 pm
Biker wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:37 pm
Stapes wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:33 pm I'm going to go out on a limb and say he isn't a "typical" Bernie supporter...….but you prove again you are a shit democrat....lol
Im more of a Democrat that Bernie is
Bernie won't vote Trump if he fails to secure the nomination
I dont even think Bernie is a member of our party
Should I post a picture of a Charger?
Do you really think Im the only Democrat to vote Trump if Sanders wins the nom? Think again, there are many of us
I think you're fucking delusional. I'd punch my momma in the mouth before I'd vote for that impeached criminal.
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I don't want him appointing another supreme court justice so I'm voting for whatever Democrat is on the ticket
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Makes sense. The Supreme Court has too big an influence on policy now. Congress sucks both elephant and donkey dicks.
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Charliesheen wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:07 am Congress sucks both elephant and donkey dicks.
I think most here believe this.
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AnalHamster wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:36 pm
Biker wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:58 pm
AnalHamster wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:46 pm Just how many times do you have to be duped by james o'keefe before you twig? :lol:
Which part of the video is inaccurate? The dude or his words?
All of it I assume, at this point since I know your source to a criminal who has over and over been caught lying and duping folks like you with false editing to misprepresent context and pretend folks said things they didn't, occasionally breaking the law to do so. I don't watch his stuff, any more than I'd spend my time watching a conspiracy nut rant on youtube or similar quality source. How about you summarise it if you think there's anything there worth seeing.
His response to this:

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Project veritas is full blown fake news propaganda that very literally fabricates stories and alters videos

Project Veritas (PV), led by James O’Keefe, has produced a string of fraudulent video products and campaigns that rely on deceptive editing, out-of-context clips and exaggerated and false claims.

● Deceptive editing: 19 months after the PV video sting against Democracy Partners, which resulted in widespread condemnation and calls for criminal investigations, the Republican Attorney General in Wisconsin determined – after two investigations – that the PV videos offered no evidence of criminality and that the “raw” footage O’Keefe claims to have provided as evidence was edited. (WI DOJ DCI Case Master Report 17-4176).

● Media bias:The Washington Post Staff won a Pulitzer Prize for their investigation into Roy Moore’s relationship with underaged women and exposing a Project Veritas sting based on a ruse of a fake Moore victim. Dean Baquet, Executive Editor of The Times, called Project Veritas’ work writ large “despicable.”

● Restraining order: A federal judge in Michigan issued a temporary restraining order against Project Veritas related to the infiltration of AFT Michigan in September 2017; the restraining order was vacated in December 2017. Later, in May 2018, AFT Michigan filed a motion for a temporary injunction but was denied.

● Voter fraud: Project Veritas claims it receives ballots fraudulently; however, the organization has never received a single ballot – instead they are given an affidavit to sign, which O’Keefe says they do not sign because it would be illegal.

● NPR videos doctored: Project Veritas edited a comment that NPR made about restaurant reservations while meeting with fake donors to make it appear as though NPR was endorsing Sharia law. The 2011 video resulted in NPR firing its executives.

● Felony charge: In 2010, O’Keefe was arrested on felony charges at the offices of Sen Mary Landrieu for “entering federal property under false pretenses for the purpose of committing a felony”; he later pleaded guilty to a reduced misdemeanor charge.

● ACORN videos doctored: An investigation of O’Keefe’s ACORN sting by the California Attorney General found that O’Keefe “did not act as a journalist objectively reporting a story” and described O’Keefe as a “partisan zealot.”

● Litigation settlement payment: Litigation filed by Juan Carlos Vera of ACORN was settled by Project Veritas for $100,000; Vera objected to violations of state recording laws and sought damages for the impact of the deceptively edited videos.

● The Trump Foundation: Project Veritas has received funding from the Trump Foundation, among other conservative funders.
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So many communists hiding in plain sight, these days. I wonder what percentage of young Americans are communists, or socialists, or anarchists? Some will drop that and become conservative in the coming years.

50 years from now, is America communist, fascist, or on its way to becoming a Muslim nation?
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70 years after the commie scares and you're still paranoid about commies.
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Wut wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:47 pm 70 years after the commie scares and you're still paranoid about commies.
Try to have a conversation. Do you think communism is bad? Destructive? Results in totalitarianism and death?
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VinceBordenIII wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:57 pm
Wut wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:47 pm 70 years after the commie scares and you're still paranoid about commies.
Try to have a conversation. Do you think communism is bad? Destructive? Results in totalitarianism and death?
Who wants communism? Even the Communists don't have real communism.
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CaptQuint wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:12 pm Project veritas is full blown fake news propaganda that very literally fabricates stories and alters videos

Project Veritas (PV), led by James O’Keefe, has produced a string of fraudulent video products and campaigns that rely on deceptive editing, out-of-context clips and exaggerated and false claims.

● Deceptive editing: 19 months after the PV video sting against Democracy Partners, which resulted in widespread condemnation and calls for criminal investigations, the Republican Attorney General in Wisconsin determined – after two investigations – that the PV videos offered no evidence of criminality and that the “raw” footage O’Keefe claims to have provided as evidence was edited. (WI DOJ DCI Case Master Report 17-4176).

● Media bias:The Washington Post Staff won a Pulitzer Prize for their investigation into Roy Moore’s relationship with underaged women and exposing a Project Veritas sting based on a ruse of a fake Moore victim. Dean Baquet, Executive Editor of The Times, called Project Veritas’ work writ large “despicable.”

● Restraining order: A federal judge in Michigan issued a temporary restraining order against Project Veritas related to the infiltration of AFT Michigan in September 2017; the restraining order was vacated in December 2017. Later, in May 2018, AFT Michigan filed a motion for a temporary injunction but was denied.

● Voter fraud: Project Veritas claims it receives ballots fraudulently; however, the organization has never received a single ballot – instead they are given an affidavit to sign, which O’Keefe says they do not sign because it would be illegal.

● NPR videos doctored: Project Veritas edited a comment that NPR made about restaurant reservations while meeting with fake donors to make it appear as though NPR was endorsing Sharia law. The 2011 video resulted in NPR firing its executives.

● Felony charge: In 2010, O’Keefe was arrested on felony charges at the offices of Sen Mary Landrieu for “entering federal property under false pretenses for the purpose of committing a felony”; he later pleaded guilty to a reduced misdemeanor charge.

● ACORN videos doctored: An investigation of O’Keefe’s ACORN sting by the California Attorney General found that O’Keefe “did not act as a journalist objectively reporting a story” and described O’Keefe as a “partisan zealot.”

● Litigation settlement payment: Litigation filed by Juan Carlos Vera of ACORN was settled by Project Veritas for $100,000; Vera objected to violations of state recording laws and sought damages for the impact of the deceptively edited videos.

● The Trump Foundation: Project Veritas has received funding from the Trump Foundation, among other conservative funders.
He seems to disagree
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VinceBordenIII wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:43 pm So many communists hiding in plain sight, these days. I wonder what percentage of young Americans are communists, or socialists, or anarchists? Some will drop that and become conservative in the coming years.

50 years from now, is America communist, fascist, or on its way to becoming a Muslim nation?
The guy to ask is Geist. Way back on UJ many moons ago he was a proclaimed Communist. Granted he was a dumb kid back then, probably about 15 or 16, but he wasn't shy about his support. I think many young people start out like that until they get some real education and real world experience. I suspect as Geist grew up a bit he probably moved toward more socialistic advocacy in place of pure communism as any person with any knowledge of history and economics knows raw communism is a proven failed ideology.
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https://www.thewrap.com/who-exactly-vid ... efe-25369/

"What he does isn't journalism," said Marty Kaplan, director of the Norman Lear Center at USC's Annenberg School for Communication. "It's agitpop, politi-punking, entrapment-entertainment. There is no responsible definition of journalism that includes what he does or how he does it. His success at luring his prey into harming themselves is a measure of how fallible and foolish anyone, including good people, can sometimes be."

If your journalistic technique is the lie, why should we believe anything you have to say?
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Marty Kaplan-color me surprised. How would a guy like that rise in the fetid ranks of crapademics?
Kaplan has a long history of referring to Conservative men and women as, “propagandists,” practitioners of the “dark arts,” and “moonies.” He is “horrified” by Christian’s who disagree with the hypothesis of man-caused global warming. He claims they are infected with, “an infantile strain” of “the American psyche” and should not be given religious freedom. He claims they will return us to the Pliocene Epoch because they are as dangerous as the asteroid that caused the extinction of the dinosaurs. Kaplan goes on to write about how he hopes “an alien invasion” might “rally our planet” to “blow past the 400 ppm barrier” and help Obama cancel the keystone pipeline.
Perfect source for you, Cap'n.
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Charliesheen wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:00 pm Marty Kaplan-color me surprised. How would a guy like that rise in the fetid ranks of crapademics?
Kaplan has a long history of referring to Conservative men and women as, “propagandists,” practitioners of the “dark arts,” and “moonies.” He is “horrified” by Christian’s who disagree with the hypothesis of man-caused global warming. He claims they are infected with, “an infantile strain” of “the American psyche” and should not be given religious freedom. He claims they will return us to the Pliocene Epoch because they are as dangerous as the asteroid that caused the extinction of the dinosaurs. Kaplan goes on to write about how he hopes “an alien invasion” might “rally our planet” to “blow past the 400 ppm barrier” and help Obama cancel the keystone pipeline.
Perfect source for you, Cap'n.
O'Keefe is a charlatan in the highest degree, she makes more sense than the dementia shit you say
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