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Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by Stapes » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:55 am

You really are retarded. There are no us candidates promoting socialism. Talk about fucking gaslighting
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Post by necronomous » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:05 am

Stapes wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:55 am
You really are retarded. There are no us candidates promoting socialism. Talk about fucking gaslighting
Sure wink wink.

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Post by BigRedRetard » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:36 pm

necronomous wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:05 am
Stapes wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:55 am
You really are retarded. There are no us candidates promoting socialism. Talk about fucking gaslighting
Sure wink wink.
Perception is everything.

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Post by Antknot » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:00 pm

Stapes wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:55 am
You really are retarded. There are no us candidates promoting socialism. Talk about fucking gaslighting
Communism lite, then?
Sorry, you assholes tend to blur together sometimes.

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Post by BigRedRetard » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:04 pm

Antknot wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:00 pm
Stapes wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:55 am
You really are retarded. There are no us candidates promoting socialism. Talk about fucking gaslighting
Communism lite, then?
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Post by Charliesheen » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:18 pm

Stapes wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:55 am
You really are retarded. There are no us candidates promoting socialism. Talk about fucking gaslighting
I guess someone din't see the Chris Mathews clip...

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Post by Biker » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:21 pm

Stapes wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:55 am
You really are retarded. There are no us candidates promoting socialism. Talk about fucking gaslighting
So when we have candidates that identify as democratic socialists, theyre really just joking around?

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Post by CHEEZY17 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:40 pm

Yeah, bernies only a proud socialist that's been saying the same Socialist things for 40 years now. But he's not REALLY a socialist. :lol:
“The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.”

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Post by Wut » Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:46 am

Government here is kicking around price controls, living wages, and intervening in mortgage foreclosures. These things won't be good for the country.

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Post by WestTexasCrude » Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:59 am

CHEEZY17 wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:40 pm
Yeah, bernies only a proud socialist that's been saying the same Socialist things for 40 years now. But he's not REALLY a socialist. :lol:
Bernie and his 2nd wife spent their honeymoon in Soviet Union Moscow. I'm pretty sure the Trump team isn't aware. Right?
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Post by CaptQuint » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:20 am

WestTexasCrude wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:59 am
CHEEZY17 wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:40 pm
Yeah, bernies only a proud socialist that's been saying the same Socialist things for 40 years now. But he's not REALLY a socialist. :lol:
Bernie and his 2nd wife spent their honeymoon in Soviet Union Moscow. I'm pretty sure the Trump team isn't aware. Right?
Republican Senators hang out in Moscow on The Fourth of July and Trump loves it
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Post by BigRedRetard » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:58 am

Bernie will be dead by the end of the summer. He looks terrible.

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Post by CaptQuint » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:05 am

Trump is the healthiest President ever DEEEEEEERRRRRPPPPPPP
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Post by CHEEZY17 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:54 am

BigRedRetard wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:58 am
Bernie will be dead by the end of the summer. He looks terrible.
If Bernie wins he will be 79 when he takes office. And coming off one heart attack that we know of. If he wins the nom his VP choice will be critical. He also recently rescinded his offer to release his medical records.
“The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.”

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Post by BigRedRetard » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:33 pm

CaptQuint wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:05 am
Trump is the healthiest President ever DEEEEEEERRRRRPPPPPPP
He is healthier than you.

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Post by AnalHamster » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:00 pm

Democratic socialism is pretty awesome, according to a bunch of Nordic countries. Longer, healthier lives with more opportunity.

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Post by Biker » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:06 pm

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

As the American left embraces a platform that continues to look more and more like a socialist’s dream, it is common for those on the right to counter with the example of Venezuela as the nightmare of socialism in reality. A common response from the left is that socialism (or democratic socialism) works just fine in Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. It is certainly true that Sweden, Norway, Finland, and Denmark are notable economic successes. What is false is that these countries are particularly socialist.

The myth of Nordic socialism is partially created by a confusion between socialism, meaning government exerting control or ownership of businesses, and the welfare state in the form of government-provided social safety net programs. However, the left’s embrace of socialism is not merely a case of redefining a word. Simply look at the long-running affinity of leftists with socialist dictators in Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela for proof many on the left long for real socialism.

To the extent that the left wants to point to an example of successful socialism, not just generous welfare states, the Nordic countries are actually a poor case to cite. Regardless of the perception, in reality the Nordic countries practice mostly free market economics paired with high taxes exchanged for generous government entitlement programs.

First, it is worth noting that the Nordic counties were economic successes before they built their welfare states. Those productive economies, generating good incomes for their workers, allowed the governments to raise the tax revenue needed to pay for the social benefits. It was not the government benefits that created wealth, but wealth that allowed the luxury of such generous government programs.

Second, as evidence of the lack of government interference in business affairs, there is the fact that none of these countries have minimum wage laws. Unions are reasonably powerful in many industries and negotiate contracts, but the government does nothing to ensure any particular outcome from those negotiations. Workers are paid what they are worth, not based on government’s perception of what is fair.............

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Post by AnalHamster » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:07 pm

If they aren't socialist neither is Bernie. He basically just wants to copy them.

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Post by necronomous » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:37 pm

AnalHamster wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:07 pm
If they aren't socialist neither is Bernie. He basically just wants to copy them.
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Post by Stapes » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:40 pm

The oligarchs of the right are very nervous they might have to share some of the pie. They are doing everything they can to create boogey men. Fake think tanks pushing out fake "findings". You know what the quickest way to real "Socialism" is? The exact path we are on now. Authoritarianism created by uncontrolled capitalist. Mega-billionaires and corporations controlling the political process and changing the laws in their favor. A dear leader who stacks all the positions of power with sycophants. A sham parliament (Senate) more than willing to do dear leaders bidding to keep their places of power. Democracy in name only. The extreme rich are the real enemy and we don't even realize they are at war with us....or like biker.....not even care because so far it's not hurting his bottom line and that's as far as he give's a shit.
Not in the a.m. bro.

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Post by Biker » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:04 pm

Stapes wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:40 pm
The oligarchs of the right are very nervous they might have to share some of the pie. They are doing everything they can to create boogey men. Fake think tanks pushing out fake "findings". You know what the quickest way to real "Socialism" is? The exact path we are on now. Authoritarianism created by uncontrolled capitalist. Mega-billionaires and corporations controlling the political process and changing the laws in their favor. A dear leader who stacks all the positions of power with sycophants. A sham parliament (Senate) more than willing to do dear leaders bidding to keep their places of power. Democracy in name only. The extreme rich are the real enemy and we don't even realize they are at war with us....or like biker.....not even care because so far it's not hurting his bottom line and that's as far as he give's a shit.
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Post by CHEEZY17 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:12 pm

Stapes wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:40 pm
The oligarchs of the right are very nervous they might have to share some of the pie. They are doing everything they can to create boogey men. Fake think tanks pushing out fake "findings". You know what the quickest way to real "Socialism" is? The exact path we are on now. Authoritarianism created by uncontrolled capitalist. Mega-billionaires and corporations controlling the political process and changing the laws in their favor. A dear leader who stacks all the positions of power with sycophants. A sham parliament (Senate) more than willing to do dear leaders bidding to keep their places of power. Democracy in name only. The extreme rich are the real enemy and we don't even realize they are at war with us....or like biker.....not even care because so far it's not hurting his bottom line and that's as far as he give's a shit.
You are aware that there are lots of Democrat "oligarchs" who want nothing to do with Bernie, right? Your own party screwed him last time-not the "oligarchs on the right".
“The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.”

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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by Stapes » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:19 pm

CHEEZY17 wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:12 pm
Stapes wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:40 pm
The oligarchs of the right are very nervous they might have to share some of the pie. They are doing everything they can to create boogey men. Fake think tanks pushing out fake "findings". You know what the quickest way to real "Socialism" is? The exact path we are on now. Authoritarianism created by uncontrolled capitalist. Mega-billionaires and corporations controlling the political process and changing the laws in their favor. A dear leader who stacks all the positions of power with sycophants. A sham parliament (Senate) more than willing to do dear leaders bidding to keep their places of power. Democracy in name only. The extreme rich are the real enemy and we don't even realize they are at war with us....or like biker.....not even care because so far it's not hurting his bottom line and that's as far as he give's a shit.
You are aware that there are lots of Democrat "oligarchs" who want nothing to do with Bernie, right? Your own party screwed him last time-not the "oligarchs on the right".
I agree with you 100%.
Not in the a.m. bro.

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Post by necronomous » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:24 pm

Stapes wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:40 pm
The oligarchs of the right are very nervous they might have to share some of the pie. They are doing everything they can to create boogey men. Fake think tanks pushing out fake "findings". You know what the quickest way to real "Socialism" is? The exact path we are on now. Authoritarianism created by uncontrolled capitalist. Mega-billionaires and corporations controlling the political process and changing the laws in their favor. A dear leader who stacks all the positions of power with sycophants. A sham parliament (Senate) more than willing to do dear leaders bidding to keep their places of power. Democracy in name only. The extreme rich are the real enemy and we don't even realize they are at war with us....or like biker.....not even care because so far it's not hurting his bottom line and that's as far as he give's a shit.
It's not a pie. This is how I know you know shit about economics.

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