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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by Stapes » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:28 pm

necronomous wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:24 pm
Stapes wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:40 pm
The oligarchs of the right are very nervous they might have to share some of the pie. They are doing everything they can to create boogey men. Fake think tanks pushing out fake "findings". You know what the quickest way to real "Socialism" is? The exact path we are on now. Authoritarianism created by uncontrolled capitalist. Mega-billionaires and corporations controlling the political process and changing the laws in their favor. A dear leader who stacks all the positions of power with sycophants. A sham parliament (Senate) more than willing to do dear leaders bidding to keep their places of power. Democracy in name only. The extreme rich are the real enemy and we don't even realize they are at war with us....or like biker.....not even care because so far it's not hurting his bottom line and that's as far as he give's a shit.
It's not a pie. This is how I know you know shit about economics.


Oh there's a pie.
Not in the a.m. bro.

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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by CHEEZY17 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:46 pm

Stapes wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:28 pm
necronomous wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:24 pm
Stapes wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:40 pm
The oligarchs of the right are very nervous they might have to share some of the pie. They are doing everything they can to create boogey men. Fake think tanks pushing out fake "findings". You know what the quickest way to real "Socialism" is? The exact path we are on now. Authoritarianism created by uncontrolled capitalist. Mega-billionaires and corporations controlling the political process and changing the laws in their favor. A dear leader who stacks all the positions of power with sycophants. A sham parliament (Senate) more than willing to do dear leaders bidding to keep their places of power. Democracy in name only. The extreme rich are the real enemy and we don't even realize they are at war with us....or like biker.....not even care because so far it's not hurting his bottom line and that's as far as he give's a shit.
It's not a pie. This is how I know you know shit about economics.


Oh there's a pie.
Is it at the club that I somehow think I belong to but dont actually belong to? Damn those rich oligarchs! Is there beer at this club? What about steak? I do like a good Delmonico. Maybe I can sneak in.
“The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.”

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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by Stapes » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:49 pm

CHEEZY17 wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:46 pm
Stapes wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:28 pm
necronomous wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:24 pm
Stapes wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:40 pm
The oligarchs of the right are very nervous they might have to share some of the pie. They are doing everything they can to create boogey men. Fake think tanks pushing out fake "findings". You know what the quickest way to real "Socialism" is? The exact path we are on now. Authoritarianism created by uncontrolled capitalist. Mega-billionaires and corporations controlling the political process and changing the laws in their favor. A dear leader who stacks all the positions of power with sycophants. A sham parliament (Senate) more than willing to do dear leaders bidding to keep their places of power. Democracy in name only. The extreme rich are the real enemy and we don't even realize they are at war with us....or like biker.....not even care because so far it's not hurting his bottom line and that's as far as he give's a shit.
It's not a pie. This is how I know you know shit about economics.


Oh there's a pie.
Is it at the club that I somehow think I belong to but dont actually belong to? Damn those rich oligarchs! Is there beer at this club? What about steak? I do like a good Delmonico. Maybe I can sneak in.

As I said many times before.... You are not in the club, you will never be in the club unless you're there to wash dishes.
Not in the a.m. bro.

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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by CHEEZY17 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:53 pm

Stapes wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:49 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:46 pm
Stapes wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:28 pm
necronomous wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:24 pm
Stapes wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:40 pm
The oligarchs of the right are very nervous they might have to share some of the pie. They are doing everything they can to create boogey men. Fake think tanks pushing out fake "findings". You know what the quickest way to real "Socialism" is? The exact path we are on now. Authoritarianism created by uncontrolled capitalist. Mega-billionaires and corporations controlling the political process and changing the laws in their favor. A dear leader who stacks all the positions of power with sycophants. A sham parliament (Senate) more than willing to do dear leaders bidding to keep their places of power. Democracy in name only. The extreme rich are the real enemy and we don't even realize they are at war with us....or like biker.....not even care because so far it's not hurting his bottom line and that's as far as he give's a shit.
It's not a pie. This is how I know you know shit about economics.


Oh there's a pie.
Is it at the club that I somehow think I belong to but dont actually belong to? Damn those rich oligarchs! Is there beer at this club? What about steak? I do like a good Delmonico. Maybe I can sneak in.

As I said many times before.... You are not in the club, you will never be in the club unless you're there to wash dishes.
I dont know what the club is so I guess I'll be ok. I would like to be a part of this club though:

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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by Stapes » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:57 pm

CHEEZY17 wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:53 pm
Stapes wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:49 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:46 pm
Stapes wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:28 pm
necronomous wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:24 pm
Stapes wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:40 pm
The oligarchs of the right are very nervous they might have to share some of the pie. They are doing everything they can to create boogey men. Fake think tanks pushing out fake "findings". You know what the quickest way to real "Socialism" is? The exact path we are on now. Authoritarianism created by uncontrolled capitalist. Mega-billionaires and corporations controlling the political process and changing the laws in their favor. A dear leader who stacks all the positions of power with sycophants. A sham parliament (Senate) more than willing to do dear leaders bidding to keep their places of power. Democracy in name only. The extreme rich are the real enemy and we don't even realize they are at war with us....or like biker.....not even care because so far it's not hurting his bottom line and that's as far as he give's a shit.
It's not a pie. This is how I know you know shit about economics.


Oh there's a pie.
Is it at the club that I somehow think I belong to but dont actually belong to? Damn those rich oligarchs! Is there beer at this club? What about steak? I do like a good Delmonico. Maybe I can sneak in.

As I said many times before.... You are not in the club, you will never be in the club unless you're there to wash dishes.
I dont know what the club is so I guess I'll be ok. I would like to be a part of this club though:

Image

I think they have that every Friday night over here at my over 55 mobile park. They call it "Bingo Night" but I know something more is going on.
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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by CaptQuint » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:29 pm

BigRedRetard wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:33 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:05 am
Trump is the healthiest President ever DEEEEEEERRRRRPPPPPPP
He is healthier than you.
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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by necronomous » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:48 pm

Stapes wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:28 pm
necronomous wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:24 pm
Stapes wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:40 pm
The oligarchs of the right are very nervous they might have to share some of the pie. They are doing everything they can to create boogey men. Fake think tanks pushing out fake "findings". You know what the quickest way to real "Socialism" is? The exact path we are on now. Authoritarianism created by uncontrolled capitalist. Mega-billionaires and corporations controlling the political process and changing the laws in their favor. A dear leader who stacks all the positions of power with sycophants. A sham parliament (Senate) more than willing to do dear leaders bidding to keep their places of power. Democracy in name only. The extreme rich are the real enemy and we don't even realize they are at war with us....or like biker.....not even care because so far it's not hurting his bottom line and that's as far as he give's a shit.
It's not a pie. This is how I know you know shit about economics.


Oh there's a pie.
Nope

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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by CaptQuint » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:35 pm

I though he was a commie?
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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by Biker » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:42 pm

CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:35 pm
I though he was a commie?
He is, but democratic socialist sounds more palatable than communist

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Post by CaptQuint » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:50 pm

Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:42 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:35 pm
I though he was a commie?
He is, but democratic socialist sounds more palatable than communist
So Bernie is campaigning on seizing the means of production?
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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by Biker » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:52 pm

CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:50 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:42 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:35 pm
I though he was a commie?
He is, but democratic socialist sounds more palatable than communist
So Bernie is campaigning on seizing the means of production?
Gun to your head: if he had the opp to seize energy production from corporations, would he do it?

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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by CaptQuint » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:58 pm

Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:52 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:50 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:42 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:35 pm
I though he was a commie?
He is, but democratic socialist sounds more palatable than communist
So Bernie is campaigning on seizing the means of production?
Gun to your head: if he had the opp to seize energy production from corporations, would he do it?
That's not what I asked
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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by Biker » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:06 pm

CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:58 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:52 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:50 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:42 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:35 pm
I though he was a commie?
He is, but democratic socialist sounds more palatable than communist
So Bernie is campaigning on seizing the means of production?
Gun to your head: if he had the opp to seize energy production from corporations, would he do it?
That's not what I asked
Its what I asked

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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by CaptQuint » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:10 pm

Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:06 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:58 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:52 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:50 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:42 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:35 pm
I though he was a commie?
He is, but democratic socialist sounds more palatable than communist
So Bernie is campaigning on seizing the means of production?
Gun to your head: if he had the opp to seize energy production from corporations, would he do it?
That's not what I asked
Its what I asked
No point in conversing then
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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by CHEEZY17 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:14 pm

Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:06 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:58 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:52 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:50 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:42 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:35 pm
I though he was a commie?
He is, but democratic socialist sounds more palatable than communist
So Bernie is campaigning on seizing the means of production?
Gun to your head: if he had the opp to seize energy production from corporations, would he do it?
That's not what I asked
Its what I asked
It's a fair question. And if Bernies standing continues to rise in the Democrat party he, and his supporters, are going to have to answer that and other similar questions.
“The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.”

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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by Biker » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:16 pm

CHEEZY17 wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:14 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:06 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:58 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:52 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:50 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:42 pm


He is, but democratic socialist sounds more palatable than communist
So Bernie is campaigning on seizing the means of production?
Gun to your head: if he had the opp to seize energy production from corporations, would he do it?
That's not what I asked
Its what I asked
It's a fair question. And if Bernies standing continues to rise in the Democrat party he, and his supporters, are going to have to answer that and other similar questions.
Yep

Even James Carville called him a communist. But I guess he's not a real Democrat either SMDH

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Post by CaptQuint » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:17 pm

CHEEZY17 wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:14 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:06 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:58 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:52 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:50 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:42 pm


He is, but democratic socialist sounds more palatable than communist
So Bernie is campaigning on seizing the means of production?
Gun to your head: if he had the opp to seize energy production from corporations, would he do it?
That's not what I asked
Its what I asked
It's a fair question. And if Bernies standing continues to rise in the Democrat party he, and his supporters, are going to have to answer that and other similar questions.


Bernie has been consistent on his policies since Trump was a Democrat.
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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by CaptQuint » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:18 pm

Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:16 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:14 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:06 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:58 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:52 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:50 pm


So Bernie is campaigning on seizing the means of production?
Gun to your head: if he had the opp to seize energy production from corporations, would he do it?
That's not what I asked
Its what I asked
It's a fair question. And if Bernies standing continues to rise in the Democrat party he, and his supporters, are going to have to answer that and other similar questions.
Yep

Even James Carville called him a communist. But I guess he's not a real Democrat either SMDH
“Last night on CNN, Bernie Sanders called me a political hack,” Carville said, according to Hamby. “That’s exactly who the fuck I am! I am a political hack! I am not an ideologue. I am not a purist. He thinks it’s a pejorative. I kinda like it! At least I’m not a communist.”
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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by AnalHamster » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:25 pm

Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:52 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:50 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:42 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:35 pm
I though he was a commie?
He is, but democratic socialist sounds more palatable than communist
So Bernie is campaigning on seizing the means of production?
Gun to your head: if he had the opp to seize energy production from corporations, would he do it?
Nope. Why would you think he would?

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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by Biker » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:27 pm

AnalHamster wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:25 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:52 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:50 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:42 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:35 pm
I though he was a commie?
He is, but democratic socialist sounds more palatable than communist
So Bernie is campaigning on seizing the means of production?
Gun to your head: if he had the opp to seize energy production from corporations, would he do it?
Nope. Why would you think he would?
Because he said as much?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/14/politics ... index.html

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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by AnalHamster » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:30 pm

Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:27 pm
AnalHamster wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:25 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:52 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:50 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:42 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:35 pm
I though he was a commie?
He is, but democratic socialist sounds more palatable than communist
So Bernie is campaigning on seizing the means of production?
Gun to your head: if he had the opp to seize energy production from corporations, would he do it?
Nope. Why would you think he would?
Because he said as much?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/14/politics ... index.html
You realise that was 50 years ago right? Try looking at his record in office and what he says today. Go back that far and you were a Democrat.

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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by Biker » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:32 pm

AnalHamster wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:30 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:27 pm
AnalHamster wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:25 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:52 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:50 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:42 pm


He is, but democratic socialist sounds more palatable than communist
So Bernie is campaigning on seizing the means of production?
Gun to your head: if he had the opp to seize energy production from corporations, would he do it?
Nope. Why would you think he would?
Because he said as much?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/14/politics ... index.html
You realise that was 50 years ago right? Try looking at his record in office and what he says today. Go back that far and you were a Democrat.
So when he advocates for nationalization and still identifies as a socialist, he's really just fucking around? GTFO

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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by AnalHamster » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:34 pm

Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:32 pm
AnalHamster wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:30 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:27 pm
AnalHamster wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:25 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:52 pm
CaptQuint wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:50 pm


So Bernie is campaigning on seizing the means of production?
Gun to your head: if he had the opp to seize energy production from corporations, would he do it?
Nope. Why would you think he would?
Because he said as much?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/14/politics ... index.html
You realise that was 50 years ago right? Try looking at his record in office and what he says today. Go back that far and you were a Democrat.
So when he advocates for nationalization and still identifies as a socialist, he's really just fucking around? GTFO
Pretending you can't distinguish between what someone thought 50 years ago and what they think today, or understand that there can be a difference at all, just makes you look like a retard you know.

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Re: Socialism sucks according to Venezuelans

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Post by Biker » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:35 pm

AnalHamster wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:34 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:32 pm
AnalHamster wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:30 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:27 pm
AnalHamster wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:25 pm
Biker wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:52 pm


Gun to your head: if he had the opp to seize energy production from corporations, would he do it?
Nope. Why would you think he would?
Because he said as much?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/14/politics ... index.html
You realise that was 50 years ago right? Try looking at his record in office and what he says today. Go back that far and you were a Democrat.
So when he advocates for nationalization and still identifies as a socialist, he's really just fucking around? GTFO
Pretending you can't distinguish between what someone thought 50 years ago and what they think today, or understand that there can be a difference at all, just makes you look like a retard you know.
Where is the evidence that he still doesnt hold those views?

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