Yes. I could mimick my wifes signature without even trying. Good enough I'm sure to pass that super stringent, up close CSI level scrutiny they use.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 6:49 amDo you know what signature verification is?CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 4:04 amSo if he wouldve signed it he would have been good?AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 9:32 pm
They checked the signature. That's the basic check they always do. THey don't first check the name for any link to a missing persons case and only then check the signature.
Didnt really think that one through, eh?
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Nice baseless speculation there. And quite incorrect to boot. Every ballot has to have the signature verified. The county has the voter’s signature on file. It has to match. If it doesn’t then the aforementioned process begins.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:20 pmThe point is if he would have signed, illegally, no one probably notices.spudoc wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 4:47 amNot really sure what your point is here. They received an unsigned ballot with only a witness signature on it. The law says the voter has to make some kind of mark on it. Procedure requires the clerk to send a letter stating there is a problem with the ballot. If the voter doesn’t reply within eight days a complaint is filed with the sheriff and the ballot is sequestered. All of this happened. Because it was a federal election the FBI became involved.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 4:04 amSo if he wouldve signed it he would have been good?AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 9:32 pm
They checked the signature. That's the basic check they always do. THey don't first check the name for any link to a missing persons case and only then check the signature.
Didnt really think that one through, eh?
The empty signature line was the thing that alerted them to the issue.
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Again, I could copy my wifes signature without even trying. How hard do you think these people examine millions of ballots? Do you honestly think they are spending more than a few seconds on each one? Be realistic here.spudoc wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:27 pmNice baseless speculation there. And quite incorrect to boot. Every ballot has to have the signature verified. The county has the voter’s signature on file. It has to match. If it doesn’t then the aforementioned process begins.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:20 pmThe point is if he would have signed, illegally, no one probably notices.spudoc wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 4:47 amNot really sure what your point is here. They received an unsigned ballot with only a witness signature on it. The law says the voter has to make some kind of mark on it. Procedure requires the clerk to send a letter stating there is a problem with the ballot. If the voter doesn’t reply within eight days a complaint is filed with the sheriff and the ballot is sequestered. All of this happened. Because it was a federal election the FBI became involved.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 4:04 amSo if he wouldve signed it he would have been good?AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 9:32 pm
They checked the signature. That's the basic check they always do. THey don't first check the name for any link to a missing persons case and only then check the signature.
Didnt really think that one through, eh?
The empty signature line was the thing that alerted them to the issue.
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One poll worker has to examine millions of ballots
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So you’ve created a scenario in your head where there is massive voter fraud and no amount of evidence to the contrary is going to change it.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:34 pmAgain, I could copy my wifes signature without even trying. How hard do you think these people examine millions of ballots? Do you honestly think they are spending more than a few seconds on each one? Be realistic here.spudoc wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:27 pmNice baseless speculation there. And quite incorrect to boot. Every ballot has to have the signature verified. The county has the voter’s signature on file. It has to match. If it doesn’t then the aforementioned process begins.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:20 pmThe point is if he would have signed, illegally, no one probably notices.spudoc wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 4:47 amNot really sure what your point is here. They received an unsigned ballot with only a witness signature on it. The law says the voter has to make some kind of mark on it. Procedure requires the clerk to send a letter stating there is a problem with the ballot. If the voter doesn’t reply within eight days a complaint is filed with the sheriff and the ballot is sequestered. All of this happened. Because it was a federal election the FBI became involved.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 4:04 amSo if he wouldve signed it he would have been good?AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 9:32 pm
They checked the signature. That's the basic check they always do. THey don't first check the name for any link to a missing persons case and only then check the signature.
Didnt really think that one through, eh?
The empty signature line was the thing that alerted them to the issue.
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No. I logically know that there is a possibility that signatures can be forged. Not sure why you deny this.spudoc wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:46 pmSo you’ve created a scenario in your head where there is massive voter fraud and no amount of evidence to the contrary is going to change it.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:34 pmAgain, I could copy my wifes signature without even trying. How hard do you think these people examine millions of ballots? Do you honestly think they are spending more than a few seconds on each one? Be realistic here.spudoc wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:27 pmNice baseless speculation there. And quite incorrect to boot. Every ballot has to have the signature verified. The county has the voter’s signature on file. It has to match. If it doesn’t then the aforementioned process begins.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:20 pmThe point is if he would have signed, illegally, no one probably notices.spudoc wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 4:47 amNot really sure what your point is here. They received an unsigned ballot with only a witness signature on it. The law says the voter has to make some kind of mark on it. Procedure requires the clerk to send a letter stating there is a problem with the ballot. If the voter doesn’t reply within eight days a complaint is filed with the sheriff and the ballot is sequestered. All of this happened. Because it was a federal election the FBI became involved.
The empty signature line was the thing that alerted them to the issue.
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There is a possibility you put on a wig and and a dress and go and in person vote as your wife, but I bet you won't.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:47 pmNo. I logically know that there is a possibility that signatures can be forged. Not sure why you deny this.spudoc wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:46 pmSo you’ve created a scenario in your head where there is massive voter fraud and no amount of evidence to the contrary is going to change it.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:34 pmAgain, I could copy my wifes signature without even trying. How hard do you think these people examine millions of ballots? Do you honestly think they are spending more than a few seconds on each one? Be realistic here.spudoc wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:27 pmNice baseless speculation there. And quite incorrect to boot. Every ballot has to have the signature verified. The county has the voter’s signature on file. It has to match. If it doesn’t then the aforementioned process begins.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:20 pmThe point is if he would have signed, illegally, no one probably notices.spudoc wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 4:47 am
Not really sure what your point is here. They received an unsigned ballot with only a witness signature on it. The law says the voter has to make some kind of mark on it. Procedure requires the clerk to send a letter stating there is a problem with the ballot. If the voter doesn’t reply within eight days a complaint is filed with the sheriff and the ballot is sequestered. All of this happened. Because it was a federal election the FBI became involved.
The empty signature line was the thing that alerted them to the issue.
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Because thats exactly the same thing.
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Get a mail in ballot for your wife and you sign it and send it in and report back.
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There's a possibility that someone could make fake photo IDs and fraudulently vote in person. And if you have ever gone to a bar with a fake ID the bouncers aren't exactly exerting themselves when checking the photo.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:47 pmNo. I logically know that there is a possibility that signatures can be forged. Not sure why you deny this.spudoc wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:46 pmSo you’ve created a scenario in your head where there is massive voter fraud and no amount of evidence to the contrary is going to change it.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:34 pmAgain, I could copy my wifes signature without even trying. How hard do you think these people examine millions of ballots? Do you honestly think they are spending more than a few seconds on each one? Be realistic here.spudoc wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:27 pmNice baseless speculation there. And quite incorrect to boot. Every ballot has to have the signature verified. The county has the voter’s signature on file. It has to match. If it doesn’t then the aforementioned process begins.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:20 pmThe point is if he would have signed, illegally, no one probably notices.spudoc wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 4:47 am
Not really sure what your point is here. They received an unsigned ballot with only a witness signature on it. The law says the voter has to make some kind of mark on it. Procedure requires the clerk to send a letter stating there is a problem with the ballot. If the voter doesn’t reply within eight days a complaint is filed with the sheriff and the ballot is sequestered. All of this happened. Because it was a federal election the FBI became involved.
The empty signature line was the thing that alerted them to the issue.
The fact is that voter fraud on the level you're talking about isn't worth the risk.
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That right wing rag the LA Times:
‘Ripe for error’: Ballot signature verification is flawed — and a big factor in the election
"When performed by professionals in criminal cases or legal proceedings, signature verification can take hours. But election employees in many states must do the job in as little as five seconds."
https://www.latimes.com/california/stor ... rification
‘Ripe for error’: Ballot signature verification is flawed — and a big factor in the election
"When performed by professionals in criminal cases or legal proceedings, signature verification can take hours. But election employees in many states must do the job in as little as five seconds."
https://www.latimes.com/california/stor ... rification
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What is this "risk" you folks keep harping on?spudoc wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:59 pmThere's a possibility that someone could make fake photo IDs and fraudulently vote in person. And if you have ever gone to a bar with a fake ID the bouncers aren't exactly exerting themselves when checking the photo.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:47 pmNo. I logically know that there is a possibility that signatures can be forged. Not sure why you deny this.spudoc wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:46 pmSo you’ve created a scenario in your head where there is massive voter fraud and no amount of evidence to the contrary is going to change it.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:34 pmAgain, I could copy my wifes signature without even trying. How hard do you think these people examine millions of ballots? Do you honestly think they are spending more than a few seconds on each one? Be realistic here.
The fact is that voter fraud on the level you're talking about isn't worth the risk.
Why were all of those other countries willing to take this super scary "risk"?
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Despite GOP rhetoric, there have been fewer than two dozen charged cases of voter fraud since the election
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In Colorado the fine for voting illegally, altering a ballot, fraudulent registration, etc... is up to $5000. Are you willing to forge your wife's signature on a ballot for that? Is one fake vote worth that?CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:02 pmWhat is this "risk" you folks keep harping on?spudoc wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:59 pmThere's a possibility that someone could make fake photo IDs and fraudulently vote in person. And if you have ever gone to a bar with a fake ID the bouncers aren't exactly exerting themselves when checking the photo.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:47 pmNo. I logically know that there is a possibility that signatures can be forged. Not sure why you deny this.spudoc wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 12:46 pmSo you’ve created a scenario in your head where there is massive voter fraud and no amount of evidence to the contrary is going to change it.
The fact is that voter fraud on the level you're talking about isn't worth the risk.
Why were all of those other countries willing to take this super scary "risk"?
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Meh. I could certainly see folks like this being willing to do whatever it takes.spudoc wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:10 pmIn Colorado the fine for voting illegally, altering a ballot, fraudulent registration, etc... is up to $5000. Are you willing to forge your wife's signature on a ballot for that? Is one fake vote worth that?CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 2:02 pmWhat is this "risk" you folks keep harping on?spudoc wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:59 pmThere's a possibility that someone could make fake photo IDs and fraudulently vote in person. And if you have ever gone to a bar with a fake ID the bouncers aren't exactly exerting themselves when checking the photo.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:47 pmNo. I logically know that there is a possibility that signatures can be forged. Not sure why you deny this.
The fact is that voter fraud on the level you're talking about isn't worth the risk.
Why were all of those other countries willing to take this super scary "risk"?
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We saw Trumpers voting for their dead moms
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We saw trump supporters voting twice, Hell trump told em to
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-supporte ... eo-1546876
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Fuck those people. To me, it doesnt matter who they were voting for. You give people an inch they will take a mile. Its just human nature.
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But isn’t our election apparatus so tight that the vote was never counted?
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Keep sucking Trump cock traitor
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‘I just thought, give him another vote:’ Man accused of killing his wife and casting her mail-in ballot for Trump — 'I didn't know you couldn't do that for your spouse.'
https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/man-ch ... for-trump/
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Was it counted?CaptQuint wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 1:02 am ‘I just thought, give him another vote:’ Man accused of killing his wife and casting her mail-in ballot for Trump — 'I didn't know you couldn't do that for your spouse.'
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