Absolutly not. Although I just posted that I think current legal immigration is too hard, there still needs to be a process that is followed. Make it hard but not unreasonable.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:15 pm So here's a thought. We all let them in. We were fine with them when they were cutting our grass, and carrying the sheetrock and roof tiles and washing the dishes and making the beds and picking the strawberries and paying them shit and taking their FICA knowing they would never could never collect. So now they have babies that need birthing, that have to go to school and they get sick and all of a sudden everybody is pointing fingers at them as parasites. Fucking hypocrites.
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I'm with you on these issues, reasonable but controlled legal immigration and I'd line to see seasonal renewable work permits, and the insurance fines suck.B-Tender wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:18 amFirst of all, find any post where I've said anything even close to what you just posted. I'm as middle as anyone on this site. Also, this isn't up for a vote, it was enacted by the Govenor, whom I did not vote for.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:52 pmPercentage wise it's a drop in the bucket of illegal immigrants who are not covered. The expansion is saving California taxpayers money but you want to vote against it I really don't understand the thinking? I know you'd rather all just have them die out in the streets but that's not how things work they go to the emergency room and they can't be turned away.
Second, per CA it WILL cost the state more. https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-go ... 10348.html
Third, I'm not anti immigration. I think that it is currently too arduous for people without a criminal background to legally immigrate. It can take up to 10years. This should be streamlined. The fact of the matter is we do need inexpensive labor.
Lastly, I do have a problem with the state fining those that don't have health insurance. The poor are covered by medical. The upper middle class and wealthy will have either Cadillac plans or normal plans through work, but the lower middle class, especially those busting their ass working two or three jobs and not qualifying with their employer will be fined because they make just over the threshold.
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This has been proven wrong. Free is free.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:32 pm MediCal expansion covers young adults up to age 26 regardless of immigration status who are under certain income thresholds. Instead of using very expensive emergency room care when they are sick at tax payer expense they now have a primary care doctor they can go to saving money. Seems logical to me.
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Bullshit. My taxes are insanely high in California. Not one taxpayer voted to provide free shitmto illegals. They voted specifically against it and the courts struck it down.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:52 pmPercentage wise it's a drop in the bucket of illegal immigrants who are not covered. The expansion is saving California taxpayers money but you want to vote against it I really don't understand the thinking? I know you'd rather all just have them die out in the streets but that's not how things work they go to the emergency room and they can't be turned away.
You sure seem generous with other people's money. Bet you ignore that brass bell & the grocery store this time of year.
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Your paying for it one way or the other. You want them clogging the emergency room because the baby is sick?Charliesheen wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:16 amThis has been proven wrong. Free is free.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:32 pm MediCal expansion covers young adults up to age 26 regardless of immigration status who are under certain income thresholds. Instead of using very expensive emergency room care when they are sick at tax payer expense they now have a primary care doctor they can go to saving money. Seems logical to me.
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Charliesheen wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:19 amBullshit. My taxes are insanely high in California. Not one taxpayer voted to provide free shitmto illegals. They voted specifically against it and the courts struck it down.Stapes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:52 pmPercentage wise it's a drop in the bucket of illegal immigrants who are not covered. The expansion is saving California taxpayers money but you want to vote against it I really don't understand the thinking? I know you'd rather all just have them die out in the streets but that's not how things work they go to the emergency room and they can't be turned away.
You sure seem generous with other people's money. Bet you ignore that brass bell & the grocery store this time of year.
Like I said....ya'll had no problem with them picking your California veggies......now you take care of them. Kind of funny when the elites use slave labor it always seems to come back and bite the people in the ass.
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And yet he'll win again.
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Sorry, Don. You cant wish it away. He's your POTUS now and for another 5 years.
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Yet to be seen. Most dont know that a key paragraph in the articles of impeachment against Trump mentions disqualifying him from ever running for office again, and it only takes 4 republican senators to invoke it.
And BTW, that was directed at you MAGAts."President Trump thus warrants impeachment and trial, removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States."
Impeachment requires a simple majority in the House of Representatives. The process then moves to the Senate, which holds a trial. The Senate then votes whether to remove a president from office, which requires a two-thirds majority in the Senate. Disqualification from running for office would then take a second vote in the Senate, one that requires only a simple majority to pass.
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Not enough pages in Time to wrap a decent-sized fish. But those covers spew lib bias regularly and predictably. Right there next to the candy bars and gum at the grocery check out line.
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