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KY man was wrongly jailed for 14 months. Then they billed him for his stay.

A Winchester factory worker spent 14 months locked in jail on child porn charges before prosecutors agreed to drop the case because repeated searches of his apartment and digital devices failed to turn up evidence against him.

But as David Allen Jones finally walked free, his life in ruins, the Clark County Detention Center handed him a bill for $4,008. Citing a 2000 state law, the jail demanded that Jones help pay for the cost of his incarceration.

On Wednesday, the Kentucky Supreme Court will be asked to decide if that’s constitutional. Jones is suing Clark County and its jailer, Frank Doyle, to ask that his bill be dismissed.

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If ever there was a need for reparations --> Its instances like these.
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1)How was he jailed for 14 months before trial with no evidence? Seems like it would be easy to get him out on bail at least. Otherwise, what would stop prosecutors from charging everyone they think committed a crime and figure it out later. Especially if they can collect coin from the accused for his stay. Sounds fishy.

2)Do you think his dad liked the song Longhaired Redneck?
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Burn1dwn wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:03 am 1)How was he jailed for 14 months before trial with no evidence? Seems like it would be easy to get him out on bail at least. Otherwise, what would stop prosecutors from charging everyone they think committed a crime and figure it out later. Especially if they can collect coin from the accused for his stay. Sounds fishy.

2)Do you think his dad liked the song Longhaired Redneck?
He mentions in the article, "acting on a tip from Lexington police that allegedly linked Jones’ Internet Protocol address to a child sex video downloaded from the web, the Clark County Sheriff’s Department raided his home in a Winchester apartment complex and arrested him. His bond was set at $15,000, more than he could afford to pay."

The single video downloaded on his IP was likely first considered enough evidence to hold him, and naturally they didn't want to officially press charges with a single video, as if he was actually a pedo he would likely have much more content and possibly be connected to a ring of like minded perverts.

Usually the time behind bars between initial arrest and formal charges are just added as 'time served' off the top of whatever sentence you end up getting. BUT, this guy was innocent... so they owe him, big time.
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sounds to me like he liked the free rent of living in a cell. if he couldn't afford and knew no one that could come up with $1500 to pay a bondsman.
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Animal wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:01 am sounds to me like he liked the free rent of living in a cell. if he couldn't afford and knew no one that could come up with $1500 to pay a bondsman.
It was probably a cash bond.
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Cassandros wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:15 am
Animal wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:01 am sounds to me like he liked the free rent of living in a cell. if he couldn't afford and knew no one that could come up with $1500 to pay a bondsman.
It was probably a cash bond.
if it was its the first court i have ever heard of requiring one.
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Animal wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:24 am
Cassandros wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:15 am
Animal wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:01 am sounds to me like he liked the free rent of living in a cell. if he couldn't afford and knew no one that could come up with $1500 to pay a bondsman.
It was probably a cash bond.
if it was its the first court i have ever heard of requiring one.
You probably don't pay close attention to day-to-day court hearings either.

Believe it or not: It happens a lot.

Anyone deemed a flight risk and/or being held for a lesser crime while being investigated for a major one will usually get this type of bond set against them.
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Cassandros wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:35 am
Animal wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:24 am
Cassandros wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:15 am
Animal wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:01 am sounds to me like he liked the free rent of living in a cell. if he couldn't afford and knew no one that could come up with $1500 to pay a bondsman.
It was probably a cash bond.
if it was its the first court i have ever heard of requiring one.
You probably don't pay close attention to day-to-day court hearings either.

Believe it or not: It happens a lot.

Anyone deemed a flight risk and/or being held for a lesser crime while being investigated for a major one will usually get this type of bond set against them.
yeah, i didn't mean to sound as if i research bonds every day. i'm just talking about people that i have known with bonds. i knew you could post a cash bond to keep from having to forfeit the fee to the bailbondsman, but i didn't know that was the only thing they accepted in some cases.
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I bet they'd have acted a lot faster if the jail fees for innocents came out of the police or prosecutor budget.
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AnalHamster wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:02 am I bet they'd have acted a lot faster of the jail fees for innocents came out of the police or prosecutor budget.
That will never happen as long as we have as strong of police unions and politicians' support of them.

Ask why, if a teachers' union is really doing nothing better or worse than a policemen's union in protecting a very needed profession for the same reasons, so many support mindlessly the one and vilify the other?
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QillerDaemon wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:50 pm
AnalHamster wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:02 am I bet they'd have acted a lot faster of the jail fees for innocents came out of the police or prosecutor budget.
That will never happen as long as we have as strong of police unions and politicians' support of them.

Ask why, if a teachers' union is really doing nothing better or worse than a policemen's union in protecting a very needed profession for the same reasons, so many support mindlessly the one and vilify the other?
That's actually a pretty simple one. On everything from unions to climate change the GOP uses a political aim to replace reality or thinking and then tries to convince its adherents what is real. And succeeds, because its adherents are kinda stoopid.

It's a stupid party for stupid people (white ones) and scaring them about the loss of white privilege is the whole of the game currently.
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Classic.

Pretends to answer a question --> but really just mindlessly bashes the 'other side' and blames them for all the worlds problems.

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