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I suspect grape flavored cigars are next :lol:
Biden expected to ban menthol cigarettes

The Biden administration is expected to announce this week its intention to ban menthol cigarettes, two people familiar with the plan told CBS News.

The proposed ban on the mint-flavored cigarettes is likely to be announced on Thursday, according to an administration official, which is the day the Food and Drug Administration was ordered by a court to respond to a 2013 citizen petition advocating the ban.

Public health organizations like the American Medical Association favor the move to ban menthols because of data showing these cigarettes disproportionately impact the health of racial minorities and young people. :lol:

In total, approximately 20 million Americans smoke menthols, according to the FDA.

Advocates of the ban told CBS News the decision about whether to move ahead with the ban was ultimately President Biden's.

Banning menthol cigarettes has Democratic support in Congress, too. Illinois Senator Dick Durbin and Representatives Raja Krishnamoorthi and Bobby Rush, recently argued the FDA has a "duty" to ban menthols. "These failures to protect children, particularly African American children, from a path to addiction are inexcusable," they told the administration.
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sell your stock in Colt 45 malt liquor.
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The AMA has taken an evidence based position, it is based on provably facts. After 50 years of focused marketing of methols to black folks, 85% of black smokers smoke them compared to 29% of white smokers. You understand smoking is bad for you, right?

I realise this may all be difficult for you to understand, facts and evidence are just not the way you look at the world.
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Anything that Biker posts is a lie
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AnalHamster wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:22 pm The AMA has taken an evidence based position, it is based on provably facts. After 50 years of focused marketing of methols to black folks, 85% of black smokers smoke them compared to 29% of white smokers. You understand smoking is bad for you, right?

I realise this may all be difficult for you to understand, facts and evidence are just not the way you look at the world.
black smokers started smoking menthols because one company was named "Kool". That's pretty much the end of the conspiracy as to why those numbers are like that.
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Animal wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:00 pm
AnalHamster wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:22 pm The AMA has taken an evidence based position, it is based on provably facts. After 50 years of focused marketing of methols to black folks, 85% of black smokers smoke them compared to 29% of white smokers. You understand smoking is bad for you, right?

I realise this may all be difficult for you to understand, facts and evidence are just not the way you look at the world.
black smokers started smoking menthols because one company was named "Kool". That's pretty much the end of the conspiracy as to why those numbers are like that.
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Stapes wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:09 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:00 pm
AnalHamster wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:22 pm The AMA has taken an evidence based position, it is based on provably facts. After 50 years of focused marketing of methols to black folks, 85% of black smokers smoke them compared to 29% of white smokers. You understand smoking is bad for you, right?

I realise this may all be difficult for you to understand, facts and evidence are just not the way you look at the world.
black smokers started smoking menthols because one company was named "Kool". That's pretty much the end of the conspiracy as to why those numbers are like that.
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you also have to open the pack from the bottom and "crush" them out.

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Complete nonsense again
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They were literally openly and undeniably marketed primarily to black people for fifty years. The result has been that they are primarily smoked by black people. Why do you dimitwits think companies spend money on marketing?
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AnalHamster wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:54 pm They were literally openly and undeniably marketed primarily to black people for fifty years. The result has been that they are primarily smoked by black people. Why do you dimitwits think companies spend money on marketing?
So why aren't they banning all cigarettes?
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necronomous wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:09 pm
AnalHamster wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:54 pm They were literally openly and undeniably marketed primarily to black people for fifty years. The result has been that they are primarily smoked by black people. Why do you dimitwits think companies spend money on marketing?
So why aren't they banning all cigarettes?
because we have to kill all the racists. duh.
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necronomous wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:09 pm
AnalHamster wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:54 pm They were literally openly and undeniably marketed primarily to black people for fifty years. The result has been that they are primarily smoked by black people. Why do you dimitwits think companies spend money on marketing?
So why aren't they banning all cigarettes?
Because Congress.
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Yeah, because making crack, weed, meth, etc, illegal totally ended the war on drugs, cleaned our streets, and sobered up all Americans (especially those living poor neighborhoods).

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Seems like what this will really do is create more Eric Gardner's for the popo to harass and possibly kill. And cost democrats votes between now and if the FDA actually dropped the hammer and banned menthol's.
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I don't smoke. So I don't have a lung to hork up in this thread.
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I love cigarettes. But I’m so happy I quit.

When I’m lit up on alcohol, damn they taste good. Lucky I can take them or leave them.
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AnalHamster wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:22 pm The AMA has taken an evidence based position, it is based on provably facts. After 50 years of focused marketing of methols to black folks, 85% of black smokers smoke them compared to 29% of white smokers. You understand smoking is bad for you, right?

I realise this may all be difficult for you to understand, facts and evidence are just not the way you look at the world.
So the blacks need more instruction that smoking is bad for you than white people.

Ok, no underhanded racism there :roll:
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fortunately crack sales haven't been targeting the black community. methol cigarettes are the problem.
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The reason they are talking about banning them is because they are easier to smoke (therefore easier to get hooked). Dumbfucks.
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necronomous wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:09 pm
AnalHamster wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:54 pm They were literally openly and undeniably marketed primarily to black people for fifty years. The result has been that they are primarily smoked by black people. Why do you dimitwits think companies spend money on marketing?
So why aren't they banning all cigarettes?
Lobbyists. Duh.
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Biker wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:59 am
AnalHamster wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:22 pm The AMA has taken an evidence based position, it is based on provably facts. After 50 years of focused marketing of methols to black folks, 85% of black smokers smoke them compared to 29% of white smokers. You understand smoking is bad for you, right?

I realise this may all be difficult for you to understand, facts and evidence are just not the way you look at the world.
So the blacks need more instruction that smoking is bad for you than white people.

Ok, no underhanded racism there :roll:
Advertising works, that's why billions are spent on it. Menthols in the U.S. have been aggressively targeted at black folks, then due to lobbying, specifically excluded in prior bans of flavored tobacco products.

I guess this is yet another example where your approach will be to deny the factual basis of the discussion rather than the issues the factual basis raised. I'll just point out that as an example Marlboro menthol shorts were literally advertised as 'exquisitely for the African American lung' and leave it there.
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It’d be racist to exclude them from marketing efforts as well.
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The cigarette companies openly marketed these things to african americans, and then openly lobbied to exclude them from prior bans on flavoured tobacco. These are simply facts. They disproportionately harm african americans because that's who they were advertised to for 50 years and then bans of other flavoured tobacco were successfully lobbied to exclude menthols to protect that market.

It's just no longer possible to debate a righty on anything. You all spend all your time trying to deny reality. If you want to argue the government shouldn't regulate cancer sticks because fweedom, feel free. That's a position. Denying that menthols have been marketed to african americans and then lobbying has kept them unregulated when similar products are is lunacy.
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Sheesh.

Why all the waycist hand-wringing?

Formula 1 is a real hit with crackers, so Marlboro went all in for fun and profit. They make menthols as well. My brother smokes PallMall menthols. Nasty. Was he targeted for racist reasons?
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AnalHamster wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:41 am
necronomous wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:09 pm
AnalHamster wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:54 pm They were literally openly and undeniably marketed primarily to black people for fifty years. The result has been that they are primarily smoked by black people. Why do you dimitwits think companies spend money on marketing?
So why aren't they banning all cigarettes?
Lobbyists. Duh.
But they aren't going to lobby to stop the ban on menthol?
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