Bad day for Boeing

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All crashes have multiple factors, the undeniable fact you are welchin' on is that MCAS was a major factor in both.
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Broken Boeing airplanes are going to the military thanks to corruption and bad decisions

The 737 Max isn’t Boeing’s only airplane that suffers from malfunctions. Its new aerial refueling tanker — the type of plane that makes it possible for the Air Force’s aircraft to traverse long distances while being based a safe distance away from enemy attacks — is also riddled with problems.

And yet, the Pentagon earmarked $2.85 billion in the 2020 budget for 15 Boeing aircraft it can’t use — while retiring 29 refueling tankers that still work fine to free up resources for the new planes. With military leaders headed to Capitol Hill this week to testify about their budget priorities for 2021, lawmakers need to hold them accountable for the decision.

Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. David Goldfein recently admitted that the Boeings have “profound problems” and are not yet suitable for “day-to-day operations.” Yet the planes that refuel the Air Force’s bombers, fighters, surveillance and cargo planes in mid-air are in near-constant demand, and are frequently called upon to do double-duty as cargo planes themselves.

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Boeing Max Judged Safe to Fly by Europe’s Aviation Regulator


(Bloomberg) -- Europe’s top aviation regulator said he’s satisfied that changes to Boeing Co.’s 737 Max have made the plane safe enough to return to the region’s skies before 2020 is out, even as a further upgrade his agency demanded won’t be ready for up to two years.

After test flights conducted in September, EASA is performing final document reviews ahead of a draft airworthiness directive it expects to issue next month, said Patrick Ky, executive director of the European Union Aviation Safety Agency.

That will be followed by four weeks of public comment, while the development of a so-called synthetic sensor to add redundancy will take 20 to 24 months, he said. The software-based solution will be required on the larger Max 10 variant before its debut targeted for 2022, and retrofitted onto other versions.

“Our analysis is showing that this is safe, and the level of safety reached is high enough for us,” Ky said in an interview. “What we discussed with Boeing is the fact that with the third sensor, we could reach even higher safety levels.”

The comments mark the firmest endorsement yet from a major regulator of Boeing’s goal to return its beleaguered workhorse to service by year-end, following numerous delays and setbacks. The Max, the latest version of the venerable 737 narrow-body, was grounded in March 2019 in the wake of two accidents that took 346 lives, setting into motion a crisis that’s cost Boeing billions of dollars and then-CEO Dennis Muilenburg his job.
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i heard this on the news driving in this morning. My first thought "buy some boeing". But, then I thought, "wait, no one is flying". Its a weird time.
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FAA clears Boeing 737 Max to fly again after 20-month grounding spurred by deadly crashes

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Only a matter of time, welchin' biker.
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AnalHamster wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:18 pm Only a matter of time, welchin' biker.
No welching here, son
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Horrific. Has to be pilot suicide, no?
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Biker wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:56 pm Image


Horrific. Has to be pilot suicide, no?
I am certainly no aviation expert but I believe planes are specifically designed to remain flying generally horizontal barring extreme circumstances. Like even if they ran out of fuel they would eventually crash land horizontally and not just go straight down as soon as the fuel ran out. Going down nearly vertical like that certainly has to lead to some tough questions.
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It was a Chinese plane in Chinese airspace, will US FAA get involved because it was US made?
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Antknot wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:03 pm It was a Chinese plane in Chinese airspace, will US FAS get involved because it was US made?
It was a Boeing 737 (not the Max though)
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Looks like the tail is missing.

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evidently planes now ping stuff every split second or so. so even if they never recover a black box they still pretty much can piece together the last events. they said the plane went from 29,000 feet down to around 8,000 feet in a minute or less and then climbed about 1,000 feet before it went back down.

that doesn't sound like suicide to me.
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Animal wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:20 pm evidently planes now ping stuff every split second or so. so even if they never recover a black box they still pretty much can piece together the last events. they said the plane went from 29,000 feet down to around 8,000 feet in a minute or less and then climbed about 1,000 feet before it went back down.

that doesn't sound like suicide to me.
Shot down? It may be the angle, but it appears the tail is missing
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