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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/brexit/86 ... -majority/

BRITAIN was tonight plunged into chaos once again as MPs voted to kill off Theresa May's Brexit deal by 391 votes to 242.

Now 993 days after the referendum, and with just 17 days before Brexit, Brits are still in the dark about when or if we will ever leave the EU.

Furious MPs blasted the uncertainty - saying the "wretched soap opera of Brexit continues" as the country heads "back to square one".

And Cabinet ministers were summoned for a crisis meeting at No10 to work out how to move forward.

Parliament has repeatedly voted against Mrs May's strategy for leaving the EU on March 29 - tonight the Commons laughed and cheered after the the fresh chaos was confirmed.

But without a clear alternative on the table, the latest defeat opens the door to a range of wildly different outcomes - from a cliff-edge No Deal to a second referendum which could cancel Brexit entirely.

Tomorrow MPs will vote on whether Britain should quit the EU without a deal in 17 days' time.

But they are expected to oppose the idea - and will instead back a delay to Brexit in a further vote likely to take place on Thursday.

Tory MP Bob Seely, who voted for the deal, warned that tonight's result would "prolong the Brexit purgatory" and "grab defeat from the jaws of victory".

He said: "This entire episode is becoming a shambles that reflects appallingly on this current House of Commons. There are now no good options."

Ex-minister Stephen Crabb added: "A coalition of the principled, the tribal, the ideologues, opportunists and conspiracy theorists have again blocked Brexit."

Senior backbencher Sir Roger Gale said: "It is astonishing that so many Brexiteer MPs have effectively voted against Brexit. If this ends in no Brexit they will be to blame."

And Sir Graham Brady, head of the Tories' powerful 1922 Committee, warned: "The danger, now, I think over the next couple of days is that things might get more confusing rather than more straightforward."
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Seems like they're not going to be leaving anytime soon.
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VinceBordenIII wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:25 pm Seems like they're not going to be leaving anytime soon.
Why would Ireland grant them an extension? Why would anyone in the EU?
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Night of the Long Butterknives coming soon.
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beagleboy wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:28 pm
VinceBordenIII wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:25 pm Seems like they're not going to be leaving anytime soon.
Why would Ireland grant them an extension? Why would anyone in the EU?
Because the damage by an uncontrolled crash out swings both ways.
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Biker wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:35 pm This has been the Remainers plan all along. Create chaos in order to overturn the vote. Minority ruling the majority
This has been inevitable all along because of reality. The best deal that is feasible is what May got, and the option of leaving with no deal has about the same level of support. There is no other option other than not leaving at all.
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analhamster wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:48 pm
Biker wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:35 pm This has been the Remainers plan all along. Create chaos in order to overturn the vote. Minority ruling the majority
This has been inevitable all along because of reality. The best deal that is feasible is what May got, and the option of leaving with no deal has about the same level of support. There is no other option other than not leaving at all.
What's this "deal" all about, anyway? Trade agreements? What to call the Belgians?
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VinceBordenIII wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:51 pm
analhamster wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:48 pm
Biker wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:35 pm This has been the Remainers plan all along. Create chaos in order to overturn the vote. Minority ruling the majority
This has been inevitable all along because of reality. The best deal that is feasible is what May got, and the option of leaving with no deal has about the same level of support. There is no other option other than not leaving at all.
What's this "deal" all about, anyway? Trade agreements? What to call the Belgians?
The terms of leaving the EU, so a lot of things. The trade arrangement gets the most attention. Currently there is a customs union, goods within the EU flow freely across internal borders, there's no need for border checks to do anything but look for smuggling of illegal things, like drugs and hookers. Leavers claimed that post brexit we'd get all the good bits, like totally free trade, without any of the obligations, and could have a magic border in Ireland patrolled by unicorns. Turns out, we can't.
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VinceBordenIII wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:51 pm
analhamster wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:48 pm
Biker wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:35 pm This has been the Remainers plan all along. Create chaos in order to overturn the vote. Minority ruling the majority
This has been inevitable all along because of reality. The best deal that is feasible is what May got, and the option of leaving with no deal has about the same level of support. There is no other option other than not leaving at all.
What's this "deal" all about, anyway? Trade agreements? What to call the Belgians?
The king of Belgium is fed up that the Dutch make jokes about how dumb Belgians are. He goes to King Willem, of the Netherlands, and demands that the Dutch should do something stupid, so that the Belgians can laugh at the Dutch. Willem wants to maintain good relations so he says; "meh, we will build a bridge in the Sahara". The king of Belgium approves and so it happens; the Dutch build a bridge in the desert.

They became the laughing stock of the world. The king of Belgium is pleased and says to king Willem:"Ha ha that was funny, you can remove the bridge.

King Willem responds: "We can't, there are Belgians on the bridge trying to fish."
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captquint wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:13 pm
VinceBordenIII wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:51 pm
analhamster wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:48 pm
Biker wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:35 pm This has been the Remainers plan all along. Create chaos in order to overturn the vote. Minority ruling the majority
This has been inevitable all along because of reality. The best deal that is feasible is what May got, and the option of leaving with no deal has about the same level of support. There is no other option other than not leaving at all.
What's this "deal" all about, anyway? Trade agreements? What to call the Belgians?
The king of Belgium is fed up that the Dutch make jokes about how dumb Belgians are. He goes to King Willem, of the Netherlands, and demands that the Dutch should do something stupid, so that the Belgians can laugh at the Dutch. Willem wants to maintain good relations so he says; "meh, we will build a bridge in the Sahara". The king of Belgium approves and so it happens; the Dutch build a bridge in the desert.

They became the laughing stock of the world. The king of Belgium is pleased and says to king Willem:"Ha ha that was funny, you can remove the bridge.

King Willem responds: "We can't, there are Belgians on the bridge trying to fish."
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -vote.html

John Bercow was accused of trying to sabotage Brexit last night after he blocked another vote on Theresa May’s deal.

In a dramatic intervention, the Commons Speaker ruled that the EU withdrawal agreement could not be put to a vote again without substantial changes.

He gave Downing Street no notice of his announcement, which came just 24 hours before the Prime Minister was expected to ask the Commons to decide on the issue for a third time following two crushing defeats.

As well as sparking a constitutional crisis, Mr Bercow’s move all but killed any prospect of a vote before Mrs May heads to an EU summit on Thursday.

It also means she may have to ask Brussels for a delay of up to 20 months. A senior Government source said the Speaker, who is an outspoken critic of Brexit, wanted to wreck Mrs May’s plan of limiting the delay to three months.

‘It seems clear that the Speaker’s motive here is to rule out a meaningful vote this week,’ the source added. ‘It leads you to believe what he really wants is a longer extension, where Parliament will take over the process and force a softer form of Brexit.

‘Anyone who thinks that this makes No Deal more likely is mistaken – the Speaker wouldn’t have done it if it did.’

With just ten days to go until Britain is scheduled to leave the EU, the Prime Minister was last night locked in crisis talks with her closest advisers to try to come up with a new strategy.

Ministers proposed a string of radical options – including asking the Queen to open a new session of Parliament – in the hope of getting round Mr Bercow’s ruling.
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It's a simple rule of procedure on the books since 1604, if parliament debates and rejects a motion, the exact same motion can't just be put to them again in the same session without the speaker approving it. May was proposing to do it for the 3rd time.

There will now either be a 6-9 month extension leading to the collapse of May's government and a second referendum which will reverse the result, or a crash out in 11 days. That's in the hands of the EU, which has to agree an extension with unanimous consent.
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Well it was supposedly a simple procedure.

They instead voted on it a third time and it failed again.


https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/th ... back-again

Theresa May is planning to bring her Brexit deal back for another vote in Parliament next week and is considering calling a general election if it cannot secure a majority, as cabinet ministers and senior Conservative MPs warn she must resign and allow a new leader to take over before going to the country.

The prime minister’s aides are preparing to call a fourth vote on her withdrawal agreement following Friday’s 58 vote defeat — the third time it has been rejected by MPs.
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The rule of procedure is simple enough, there are ways round it like starting a new parliamentary session or as in this case separating the motion into parts and voting on just one of them. That's what May tried and lost again.
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https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/ ... eremy-hunt

Oh thank goodness. The British have decided to inform us they are NOT irrelevant and will not be irrelevant in the future.
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Maybe they should require another license.
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An American was berating a brit, saying things like "it's a trunk not a boot, it's chips not crisps, it's an elevator, not a lift" etc. After a few min of this, the Brit replied "they're schools, not shooting ranges"
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