Wuhan Coronavirus

[Biker]

Didn't even keep up with inflation

$30,900 in 10 years seems like quite a lot.

29% in 10 years? That has to be more than inflation. That's averaging around 3%

Actual inflation the past 10 years.
2019 2.3
2018 1.9
2017 2.1
2016 2.1
2015 0.7
2014 0.8
2013 1.5
2012 1.7
2011 3.0
2010 1.5

in fact, looking at it, i would guess that the adjustment each year is based on inflation.

Would you support a pause in FICA? Say from the current rate of 130k thru 250k would be FICA free but every dollar after 250k would be taxed

[Animal]

Didn't even keep up with inflation

$30,900 in 10 years seems like quite a lot.

29% in 10 years? That has to be more than inflation. That's averaging around 3%

Actual inflation the past 10 years.
2019 2.3
2018 1.9
2017 2.1
2016 2.1
2015 0.7
2014 0.8
2013 1.5
2012 1.7
2011 3.0
2010 1.5

in fact, looking at it, i would guess that the adjustment each year is based on inflation.

Would you support a pause in FICA? Say from the current rate of 130k thru 250k would be FICA free but every dollar after 250k would be taxed

I am really not sure what my thoughts on it are. I have never really sat down and laid out the entire system to think through how it is actually funded.

But, I have done this much thinking on it. Let's say you are a person that pays the max every year. For 2020 you will have paid in (between you and the employer) 12.4%. And the cap is $137,700. That means you paid $17,074.80. And 20 years ago you paid in around $9,920. So, in 20 years you have paid somewhere in the neighborhood of $13,497 x 20 = $270,000. so, let's just say that over your entire life, you paid in $325,000. Now, what you can get out varies ridiculously, but let's say you would get $2400 per month back. That would be 135 months. 11 years to get it all back.

Of course we are talking about no interest accumulation. But, we are also talking about the top of the pyramid in terms of earnings and savings. And even at that you get 100% of your money back in around 11 years. So, what little thought I have put into it, the system seems to make no sense at all to me. I have no idea how they come up with the cap. The amount of the withholding. Any of it.

[Biker]

Didn't even keep up with inflation

$30,900 in 10 years seems like quite a lot.

29% in 10 years? That has to be more than inflation. That's averaging around 3%

Actual inflation the past 10 years.
2019 2.3
2018 1.9
2017 2.1
2016 2.1
2015 0.7
2014 0.8
2013 1.5
2012 1.7
2011 3.0
2010 1.5

in fact, looking at it, i would guess that the adjustment each year is based on inflation.

Would you support a pause in FICA? Say from the current rate of 130k thru 250k would be FICA free but every dollar after 250k would be taxed

I am really not sure what my thoughts on it are. I have never really sat down and laid out the entire system to think through how it is actually funded.

But, I have done this much thinking on it. Let's say you are a person that pays the max every year. For 2020 you will have paid in (between you and the employer) 12.4%. And the cap is $137,700. That means you paid $17,074.80. And 20 years ago you paid in around $9,920. So, in 20 years you have paid somewhere in the neighborhood of $13,497 x 20 = $270,000. so, let's just say that over your entire life, you paid in $325,000. Now, what you can get out varies ridiculously, but let's say you would get $2400 per month back. That would be 135 months. 11 years to get it all back.

Of course we are talking about no interest accumulation. But, we are also talking about the top of the pyramid in terms of earnings and savings. And even at that you get 100% of your money back in around 11 years. So, what little thought I have put into it, the system seems to make no sense at all to me. I have no idea how they come up with the cap. The amount of the withholding. Any of it.

But that employee only really pays 6.2%, right? I get that from an employers point of view that 6.2% of 137k is part of the total compensation but an employee never had that in his check to begin with. For example, its not as if the employee receives a 12.4% bump after they hit the cap

[Animal]

But that employee only really pays 6.2%, right? I get that from an employers point of view that 6.2% of 137k is part of the total compensation but an employee never had that in his check to begin with. For example, its not as if the employee receives a 12.4% bump after they hit the cap

Yeah, the employee pays 6.2% and the employer pays the other half of 6.2% for a total of 12.4%. Now, if you work for yourself or you own the company, then you are essentially out of pocket for the entire 12.4%. Either way, that's how much (12.4% is going into your person SS account with the government each paycheck).

Now, maybe a more novel approach would be to cap the employees side of the SS withholding at the way it is done now. In other words, once you hit $137,700 you stop having 6.2% withheld from your check. But the employer continues to pay his 6.2% above and beyond that $137,700 to infinity.

And, following that logic, if you are self employed, then your "self employment tax" of 12.4% drops to 6.2% once you hit $137,700.

[CaptQuint]

Florida sheriff forbids employees, visitors to wear masks: If they do, 'they will be asked to leave'

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 352799001/

So, mandating that we wear a mask (during a deadly pandemic) is authoritarianism, but forcing those who do wear masks to take them off is freedom?

[Antknot]

[CaptQuint]

House passed their bill in May

[CaptQuint]

13 DAYS AFTER HIS DEATH, HERMAN CAIN 'TWEETS' ABOUT BIDEN-HARRIS

https://www.wusa9.com/amp/article/news/ ... 83c2448e24

[Biker]

[Animal]

First accurate meme I have seen.

[CaptQuint]

BLATANT PROPAGANDA TRYING TO INFLUENCE THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION THE RIGHT IS REDUCED TO COPY-PASTE CARTOONS!!!!!!!

[Stapes]

Look at what have you done.


biker post memes from people who can't even speak English correctly

[Animal]

Look at what have you done.


biker post memes from people who can't even speak English correctly

that was the democrat speaking.

[Stapes]

Lol....omg.... That actually made me chuckle

[Animal]

Lol....omg.... That actually made me chuckle

its all part of the magic of a correctly created meme.

[Biker]

[Animal]

THIS IS STRANGE: Report Shows 2020 with Lowest Number of US Deaths Since 2009
AUGUST 13, 2020
News Source: The Gateway Pundit

In June we reported that according to updated data, US mortalities in 2020 were not materially different from the previous 5 years. We posted updated data through week 34 in the 2019-2020 season.

Now there is a report at PrimaryDoctor.org by Colleen Huber, NMD, that reveals total US deaths this year in 2020 are actually lower than annual US deaths in 20 of the last 21 years.

[Charliesheen]

That’s Trump’s America.

[Animal]

That’s Trump’s America.

I'm waiting for Stapes to come in and remind us that Obama was president in 2009.

[Stapes]

We average from 2.5 to 2.8 million deaths every year. What is your point? 2020 isn't even over....... If we hit 300,000 deaths from covid-19 that would fit very easily into that margin depending on other factors. Your point is kind of stupid

[Animal]

We average from 2.5 to 2.8 million deaths every year. What is your point? 2020 isn't even over....... If we hit 300,000 deaths from covid-19 that would fit very easily into that margin depending on other factors. Your point is kind of stupid

it accounts for the fact that its mid-year in 2020. And its also adjusted for "per capita" results. both of which negate your statement of "what's your point?"

[Biker]

We average from 2.5 to 2.8 million deaths every year. What is your point? 2020 isn't even over....... If we hit 300,000 deaths from covid-19 that would fit very easily into that margin depending on other factors. Your point is kind of stupid

Arent you presuming that all of those people would not have to died this year?

[Stapes]

We average from 2.5 to 2.8 million deaths every year. What is your point? 2020 isn't even over....... If we hit 300,000 deaths from covid-19 that would fit very easily into that margin depending on other factors. Your point is kind of stupid

Arent you presuming that all of those people would not have to died this year?

There are so many presumptions he is trying to make that it's absolutely ridiculous. Number two I don't believe a fucking thing he posts as being accurate

[Animal]

We average from 2.5 to 2.8 million deaths every year. What is your point? 2020 isn't even over....... If we hit 300,000 deaths from covid-19 that would fit very easily into that margin depending on other factors. Your point is kind of stupid

Arent you presuming that all of those people would not have to died this year?

There are so many presumptions he is trying to make that it's absolutely ridiculous. Number two I don't believe a fucking thing he posts as being accurate

who is "he"?

[Stapes]

We average from 2.5 to 2.8 million deaths every year. What is your point? 2020 isn't even over....... If we hit 300,000 deaths from covid-19 that would fit very easily into that margin depending on other factors. Your point is kind of stupid

Arent you presuming that all of those people would not have to died this year?

There are so many presumptions he is trying to make that it's absolutely ridiculous. Number two I don't believe a fucking thing he posts as being accurate

who is "he"?

you and whatever point your little chart is supposed to make? Are there going to be less total deaths in the U.S. than last year or the year before that? Maybe. Will there be more? Maybe

What we do know is that 165,000 people are dead and more every day in part because of a failed National Response from the President of United States and his administration who from day one has downplayed its severity and significance. Has dragged his feet every step of the way to admit there was a problem and when finally decided to respond it was half-hearted, disorganized and still to this day incomplete.

Now we have to hear you get on your soap box and blah, blah, blah .........I don't give a fuck about your opinion. He failed and he is going to pay for it on November 3rd.