Donald Trump @ CPAC

[Who]

Live right now, I listened for about 15 minutes

[Who]

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... 64e8f5e7d3

[DandyDon]

Holy shit. I've heard more honest, coherent rambling from a meth head talking to himself in the Flying J parking lot. That was unreal.

[Stapes]

Dude is straight up crazy.

TRUMP: "Mothers who love their daughters give them massive amounts of birth control pills, because they know their daughters are going to be raped on the way up to our southern border. Think of that. True story told to me by the Border Patrol. Think of how evil that is

[spudoc]

Dude is straight up crazy.

TRUMP: "Mothers who love their daughters give them massive amounts of birth control pills, because they know their daughters are going to be raped on the way up to our southern border. Think of that. True story told to me by the Border Patrol. Think of how evil that is

does he make these faces when Biker and Cheesy are mouth washing his balls?

[AnalHamster]

1 in 3 is actually low, but trump policies do nothing to address the problem and actually make it worse by shutting down legal asylum claims.

[CHEEZY17]

does he make these faces when Biker and Cheesy are mouth washing his balls?

Sorry, Spud. Unlike captcunty who is unable to say anything bad about his beloved Dims no matter how justified, I'll easily say Trump says and does lots of dumb stuff. Plus, he seems like a genuine asshole. That doesn't mean that I cant agree with some things and that doesn't make me a ballwasher when it happens.

[AnalHamster]

does he make these faces when Biker and Cheesy are mouth washing his balls?

Sorry, Spud. Unlike captcunty who is unable to say anything bad about his beloved Dims no matter how justified, I'll easily say Trump says and does lots of dumb stuff. Plus, he seems like a genuine asshole. That doesn't mean that I cant agree with some things and that doesn't make me a ballwasher when it happens.

What things? Blowing up the deficit with his tax cut? Appointing judges for the christian right? I'm genuinely curious what you think trump has actually achieved that you approve of.

[CHEEZY17]

does he make these faces when Biker and Cheesy are mouth washing his balls?

Sorry, Spud. Unlike captcunty who is unable to say anything bad about his beloved Dims no matter how justified, I'll easily say Trump says and does lots of dumb stuff. Plus, he seems like a genuine asshole. That doesn't mean that I cant agree with some things and that doesn't make me a ballwasher when it happens.

What things? Blowing up the deficit with his tax cut? Appointing judges for the christian right? I'm genuinely curious what you think trump has actually achieved that you approve of.

I approve of conservative minded judges at all levels
Moving embassy to Jerusalem
Slashing regulations
Getting NATO nations to pay more
Reworked NAFTA
Tax cut helped me and probably lots of other small business owners
Renewed focus on immigration
Prison reform
Overhaul of VA
Telling Maduro to fuck himself and recognizing Guido
Middle class wages on the rise
Encouraging record US oil production

Off the top of my head...

[AnalHamster]

does he make these faces when Biker and Cheesy are mouth washing his balls?

Sorry, Spud. Unlike captcunty who is unable to say anything bad about his beloved Dims no matter how justified, I'll easily say Trump says and does lots of dumb stuff. Plus, he seems like a genuine asshole. That doesn't mean that I cant agree with some things and that doesn't make me a ballwasher when it happens.

What things? Blowing up the deficit with his tax cut? Appointing judges for the christian right? I'm genuinely curious what you think trump has actually achieved that you approve of.

I approve of conservative minded judges at all levels
Moving embassy to Jerusalem
Slashing regulations
Getting NATO nations to pay more
Reworked NAFTA
Tax cut helped me and probably lots of other small business owners
Renewed focus on immigration
Prison reform
Overhaul of VA
Telling Maduro to fuck himself and recognizing Guido
Middle class wages on the rise
Encouraging record US oil production

Off the top of my head...

So it's mostly gullibility rather than actual achievements then. He did nothing on nato except weaken the alliance, NATO counties remain committed to the targets agreed in 2014. He agreed some minor tweaks to nafta, just pretended it was a major new agreement and even that is now unlikely to pass Congress. Moving the embassy does nothing except derail the peace process and weaken the US bargaining positioning. Prison reform, continuing economic trends and oil production have nothing to do with his actions. The Christian right has done such a successful job with their long term propaganda that they have you convinced you want judges whose rulings you would disagree with since it's all about social conservatism, that's kind of a weird one but you're in a big old pile of dupes there.

I guess the tax cuts have winners and losers if you ignore trillion dollar deficits and he did take a strong line on Maduro along with most of the rest of the world.

[Charliesheen]

https://ijr.com/nato-secretary-general- ... ing-trump/

When Trump addressed this issue and others earlier this month, he indicated that he didn’t care whether Europeans disliked him.

“When they say I’m not popular in Europe — I shouldn’t be popular in Europe,” he told the press. “If I was popular in Europe, I wouldn’t be doing my job because I want Europe to pay.”

He specifically called out Germany, which he complained was only paying 1 percent of its gross domestic product toward NATO.

Crossing up pompous euro-trash like AH's ilk is endearing to most Americans, cept the political class of course.

To wit:

What good is NATO if Germany is paying Russia billions of dollars for gas and energy? Why are there only 5 out of 29 countries that have met their commitment? The U.S. is paying for Europe’s protection, then loses billions on Trade. Must pay 2% of GDP IMMEDIATELY, not by 2025.

[AnalHamster]

https://ijr.com/nato-secretary-general- ... ing-trump/

When Trump addressed this issue and others earlier this month, he indicated that he didn’t care whether Europeans disliked him.

“When they say I’m not popular in Europe — I shouldn’t be popular in Europe,” he told the press. “If I was popular in Europe, I wouldn’t be doing my job because I want Europe to pay.”

He specifically called out Germany, which he complained was only paying 1 percent of its gross domestic product toward NATO.

Crossing up pompous euro-trash like AH's ilk is endearing to most Americans, cept the political class of course.

To wit:

What good is NATO if Germany is paying Russia billions of dollars for gas and energy? Why are there only 5 out of 29 countries that have met their commitment? The U.S. is paying for Europe’s protection, then loses billions on Trade. Must pay 2% of GDP IMMEDIATELY, not by 2025.

The whole NATO thing is one of trump's dumb misunderstandings, I guess you don't get it either. It's an alliance. Countries that are members of NATO spend money on their own militaries and it makes zero difference to US spending if Germany spends more, or less. Trump is going to spend more whatever happens, because that plays well with his base. NATO members don't pay each other, no one owes the US any money. Trump doesn't seem able to grasp that. The target of 2% GDP was agreed with Obama and has a target date of 2024, so no one has actually failed to meet that commitment either, it not being 2024 yet. Trump did not negotiate any change to that agreement he just lied to you about it.

Germany's gas supply doesn't affect the alliance, trump openly speculating about whether the US would honour its commitments does. Trump is aligned with Putin against his own advisers on this one.

[CHEEZY17]

does he make these faces when Biker and Cheesy are mouth washing his balls?

Sorry, Spud. Unlike captcunty who is unable to say anything bad about his beloved Dims no matter how justified, I'll easily say Trump says and does lots of dumb stuff. Plus, he seems like a genuine asshole. That doesn't mean that I cant agree with some things and that doesn't make me a ballwasher when it happens.

What things? Blowing up the deficit with his tax cut? Appointing judges for the christian right? I'm genuinely curious what you think trump has actually achieved that you approve of.

I approve of conservative minded judges at all levels
Moving embassy to Jerusalem
Slashing regulations
Getting NATO nations to pay more
Reworked NAFTA
Tax cut helped me and probably lots of other small business owners
Renewed focus on immigration
Prison reform
Overhaul of VA
Telling Maduro to fuck himself and recognizing Guido
Middle class wages on the rise
Encouraging record US oil production

Off the top of my head...

So it's mostly gullibility rather than actual achievements then. He did nothing on nato except weaken the alliance, NATO counties remain committed to the targets agreed in 2014. He agreed some minor tweaks to nafta, just pretended it was a major new agreement and even that is now unlikely to pass Congress. Moving the embassy does nothing except derail the peace process and weaken the US bargaining positioning. Prison reform, continuing economic trends and oil production have nothing to do with his actions. The Christian right has done such a successful job with their long term propaganda that they have you convinced you want judges whose rulings you would disagree with since it's all about social conservatism, that's kind of a weird one but you're in a big old pile of dupes there.

I guess the tax cuts have winners and losers if you ignore trillion dollar deficits and he did take a strong line on Maduro along with most of the rest of the world.

We get it: TRUMP BAD!11!1
Each one of your derps can be argued and many are based on opinion rather than fact. Its pretty simple really, you view anything he does as wrong because that is your starting point and the orange man is BAD! You view all actions within that lens and look for reasons to think of them that way. You are incapable of anything else. Congrats?

[AnalHamster]

does he make these faces when Biker and Cheesy are mouth washing his balls?

Sorry, Spud. Unlike captcunty who is unable to say anything bad about his beloved Dims no matter how justified, I'll easily say Trump says and does lots of dumb stuff. Plus, he seems like a genuine asshole. That doesn't mean that I cant agree with some things and that doesn't make me a ballwasher when it happens.

What things? Blowing up the deficit with his tax cut? Appointing judges for the christian right? I'm genuinely curious what you think trump has actually achieved that you approve of.

I approve of conservative minded judges at all levels
Moving embassy to Jerusalem
Slashing regulations
Getting NATO nations to pay more
Reworked NAFTA
Tax cut helped me and probably lots of other small business owners
Renewed focus on immigration
Prison reform
Overhaul of VA
Telling Maduro to fuck himself and recognizing Guido
Middle class wages on the rise
Encouraging record US oil production

Off the top of my head...

So it's mostly gullibility rather than actual achievements then. He did nothing on nato except weaken the alliance, NATO counties remain committed to the targets agreed in 2014. He agreed some minor tweaks to nafta, just pretended it was a major new agreement and even that is now unlikely to pass Congress. Moving the embassy does nothing except derail the peace process and weaken the US bargaining positioning. Prison reform, continuing economic trends and oil production have nothing to do with his actions. The Christian right has done such a successful job with their long term propaganda that they have you convinced you want judges whose rulings you would disagree with since it's all about social conservatism, that's kind of a weird one but you're in a big old pile of dupes there.

I guess the tax cuts have winners and losers if you ignore trillion dollar deficits and he did take a strong line on Maduro along with most of the rest of the world.

We get it: TRUMP BAD!11!1
Each one of your derps can be argued and many are based on opinion rather than fact. Its pretty simple really, you view anything he does as wrong because that is your starting point and the orange man is BAD! You view all actions within that lens and look for reasons to think of them that way. You are incapable of anything else. Congrats?

I can argue my positions, you apparently not so much. You're giving trump credit for things he didn't do and ignoring negative consequences of things he did do.

[CHEEZY17]

The positions have been argued ad nauseum. Your starting point is TRUMP BAD. You simply refuse to give any credit wehatsoever.

[Charliesheen]

https://www.agriculture.com/markets/new ... trade-deal

After 5 billion ton deal last month. It's fun growing enough food to feed a country.

[CaptQuint]

WE GET IT Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is bad, you can shut up now. Thank god no one ever criticized Hillary or Obama repeatedly.

[AnalHamster]

The positions have been argued ad nauseum. Your starting point is TRUMP BAD. You simply refuse to give any credit wehatsoever.

Except that I just did. Notice how when I explored your list of actual issues you just went straight to ad hominem without addressing anything I said? Think about that.

[CHEEZY17]

The positions have been argued ad nauseum. Your starting point is TRUMP BAD. You simply refuse to give any credit wehatsoever.

Except that I just did. Notice how when I explored your list of actual issues you just went straight to ad hominem without addressing anything I said? Think about that.

Ooooo, you begrudgingly gave him a touch of credit on Maduro hedged by "along with the rest of the world" conveniently ignoring that he was among the first and strongest to speak out.
You've clearly done no research on prison reform or VA reform or you would know that he has received praise from both the right and left on these subjects. You did not address slashing regulations that has spurred business growth. You fail to take into account the effect/affect of a pro business administration on everything from growth to oil production. You failed to address growing middle class wages that were stagnant for years thus rendering your argument of "continuation" laughable. Your starting point for everything always has been and always will be TRUMP BAD. Your inability to see through a lens not discolored by your personal animosity renders your opinions to a chum-like refuse.

[Charliesheen]

No Cheesy, you've been duped.

[AnalHamster]

The positions have been argued ad nauseum. Your starting point is TRUMP BAD. You simply refuse to give any credit wehatsoever.

Except that I just did. Notice how when I explored your list of actual issues you just went straight to ad hominem without addressing anything I said? Think about that.

Ooooo, you begrudgingly gave him a touch of credit on Maduro hedged by "along with the rest of the world" conveniently ignoring that he was among the first and strongest to speak out.
You've clearly done no research on prison reform or VA reform or you would know that he has received praise from both the right and left on these subjects. You did not address slashing regulations that has spurred business growth. You fail to take into account the effect/affect of a pro business administration on everything from growth to oil production. You failed to address growing middle class wages that were stagnant for years thus rendering your argument of "continuation" laughable. Your starting point for everything always has been and always will be TRUMP BAD. Your inability to see through a lens not discolored by your personal animosity renders your opinions to a chum-like refuse.

The prison reform bill was a bipartisan effort started before trump took office, he just signed it. VA reform is going to go poorly, since it is just paying for private care without providing additional funding. The VA is stretched because it hasn't got enough funding, the money to pay for private care will necessarily have to come from the already stretched budget covering the public care, which will further degrade services. Cutting the waiting list by using the private system is a good idea, we do it over here too, but it does mean more money.

Middle class wages are still stagnant, though income overall is up continuing a trend that began before Trump took office. Slashing regulations is too vague, what regulations did you have in mind? Weakening consumer protections? Dumping shit in rivers and groundwater?

If you want me to address everything in your post perhaps you'd like to do the same for mine.

[DandyDon]

The positions have been argued ad nauseum. Your starting point is TRUMP BAD. You simply refuse to give any credit wehatsoever.

Except that I just did. Notice how when I explored your list of actual issues you just went straight to ad hominem without addressing anything I said? Think about that.

You failed to address growing middle class wages that were stagnant for years thus rendering your argument of "continuation" laughable.



https://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-o ... 2019-01-30

[CHEEZY17]

The positions have been argued ad nauseum. Your starting point is TRUMP BAD. You simply refuse to give any credit wehatsoever.

Except that I just did. Notice how when I explored your list of actual issues you just went straight to ad hominem without addressing anything I said? Think about that.

You failed to address growing middle class wages that were stagnant for years thus rendering your argument of "continuation" laughable.



https://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-o ... 2019-01-30

Sorry, Don. They worked for me. While I can only speak for myself, I suspect many other middle class small business owners benefited as well.

[stymiegreen]

"Slashing regulations" is my favorite of the vague trump achievements that his ballwashers give him credit for. Cheezy just listed trumps whole nonsensical campaign platform and agreed with all of it and gave trump credit for all the vague achievements trump claims on a daily basis. Biker does the same shit. "He slashed regulations!" Which ones? "All of the bad ones! Fuck yeah trump....gettin shit done!"....lulz.

[AnalHamster]

Record trade deficit this year, in part due to trump's policies aimed at reducing it.

Not actually a bad thing if you understand economics, but on trump's own terms a major fail. Awkward timing for the trumpster as he looks for a face saving way to cave to china.