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Biker wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:07 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:04 pm
LSU Health Shreveport Chancellor G.E. Ghali confirmed Letlow underwent an operation related to the virus and later went into cardiac arrest.
https://nypost.com/2020/12/30/congressm ... operation/
Thats our point.
That he died of covid
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Biker wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:07 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:04 pm
LSU Health Shreveport Chancellor G.E. Ghali confirmed Letlow underwent an operation related to the virus and later went into cardiac arrest.
https://nypost.com/2020/12/30/congressm ... operation/
Thats our point.
And I don't see "our" point.

He wouldn't have needed the procedure if he didn't get the plague. Failure to acknowledge that means he died as a result of the plague is illogical, and any further attempts to do so should be dismissed by intelligent adults.
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Michigan Governor vetoes bill extending unemployment benefits, refuses to lift lockdowns

The bill would have provided $220 million in funding to the Unemployment Insurance Trust Fund, which would have pooled funds to help businesses provide financial support for laid-off workers.


Democratic Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer vetoed a bill on Tuesday which would have extended unemployment benefits for workers affected by the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, MLive reports.

The bill would have provided $220 million in funding to the Unemployment Insurance Trust Fund, which would have pooled funds to help businesses provide financial support for laid-off workers. The trust fund had $4.6 billion to support workers at the beginning of the pandemic, but has since been depleted to $864 million.

Michigan Republican Party Chairwoman Laura Cox criticized the veto. "First, Governor Whitmer put people out of work with her shutdown orders," Cox said. "Then, through her administration's incompetence, it became almost impossible for out-of-work Michiganders to receive unemployment benefits."

"Now, Whitmer has vetoed extending aid to workers even though her draconian shutdowns continue. Clearly, the 'science' Whitmer is following doesn't include basic economics, and Michigan families are paying the price," Cox finished.
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The Governor said she vetoed the Trust Fund replenishment due to Republicans not negotiating that provision with her office beforehand. She also approved an extension of unemployment benefits from 20 to 26 weeks.

“To be very clear, this will not impact individual workers,” Whitmer said of the Trust Fund veto. “General Fund dollars have got to be used to fund essential services, like vaccines and PPE not to give tax breaks to big businesses right now.”

Senate Bill 748 added $220 million from the state’s general fund into the dangerously low unemployment trust fund – which is where unemployment benefits are paid from. At the start of the pandemic, the trust fund had $4.6 billion, but has dropped to $864 million as of Dec. 21 – meaning more than 80% of the fund has dried up in nine months. Employers typically pay into the unemployment trust fund to cover benefits for laid off workers. Proponents of the veto say the bill would have essentially given large corporations tax cuts by not having to pay into the trust fund.

Read more: Here’s what the state’s $465 million, the feds’ $908 billion COVID aid bills mean for Michiganders

Whitmer justified the move by pointing to the federal stimulus approved by President Donald Trump on Sunday, Dec. 27. The impact to the Unemployment Insurance Trust Fund would be mitigated by the federal stimulus providing all unemployment recipients with an additional $300 a week.

“The continuation of these benefits coupled with the additional $300 per week for all claimants will provide our workers with the emergency financial assistance to buy essential items like groceries and prescription drugs,” according to the release.

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2 ... -fund.html
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Biker wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:15 pm
Michigan Governor vetoes bill extending unemployment benefits, refuses to lift lockdowns

The bill would have provided $220 million in funding to the Unemployment Insurance Trust Fund, which would have pooled funds to help businesses provide financial support for laid-off workers.


Democratic Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer vetoed a bill on Tuesday which would have extended unemployment benefits for workers affected by the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, MLive reports.

The bill would have provided $220 million in funding to the Unemployment Insurance Trust Fund, which would have pooled funds to help businesses provide financial support for laid-off workers. The trust fund had $4.6 billion to support workers at the beginning of the pandemic, but has since been depleted to $864 million.

Michigan Republican Party Chairwoman Laura Cox criticized the veto. "First, Governor Whitmer put people out of work with her shutdown orders," Cox said. "Then, through her administration's incompetence, it became almost impossible for out-of-work Michiganders to receive unemployment benefits."

"Now, Whitmer has vetoed extending aid to workers even though her draconian shutdowns continue. Clearly, the 'science' Whitmer is following doesn't include basic economics, and Michigan families are paying the price," Cox finished.

Number one..... you know if a biker posted it there is more to the story.

If Republicans were for it then they definitely had some kind.
of shenanigans going on in the bill and that's why she vetoed it.
I blame Biker.
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Stapes wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:21 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:15 pm
Michigan Governor vetoes bill extending unemployment benefits, refuses to lift lockdowns

The bill would have provided $220 million in funding to the Unemployment Insurance Trust Fund, which would have pooled funds to help businesses provide financial support for laid-off workers.


Democratic Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer vetoed a bill on Tuesday which would have extended unemployment benefits for workers affected by the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, MLive reports.

The bill would have provided $220 million in funding to the Unemployment Insurance Trust Fund, which would have pooled funds to help businesses provide financial support for laid-off workers. The trust fund had $4.6 billion to support workers at the beginning of the pandemic, but has since been depleted to $864 million.

Michigan Republican Party Chairwoman Laura Cox criticized the veto. "First, Governor Whitmer put people out of work with her shutdown orders," Cox said. "Then, through her administration's incompetence, it became almost impossible for out-of-work Michiganders to receive unemployment benefits."

"Now, Whitmer has vetoed extending aid to workers even though her draconian shutdowns continue. Clearly, the 'science' Whitmer is following doesn't include basic economics, and Michigan families are paying the price," Cox finished.

Number one..... you know if a biker posted it there is more to the story.

If Republicans were for it then they definitely had some kind.
of shenanigans going on in the bill and that's why she vetoed it.
"To be very clear, this will not impact individual workers. General fund dollars have got to be used to fund essential services, like vaccines and PPE, not to give tax breaks to big businesses right now," Whitmer said during a news conference earlier Tuesday.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 071250001/
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FSchmertz wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:23 pm
Stapes wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:21 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:15 pm
Michigan Governor vetoes bill extending unemployment benefits, refuses to lift lockdowns

The bill would have provided $220 million in funding to the Unemployment Insurance Trust Fund, which would have pooled funds to help businesses provide financial support for laid-off workers.


Democratic Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer vetoed a bill on Tuesday which would have extended unemployment benefits for workers affected by the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, MLive reports.

The bill would have provided $220 million in funding to the Unemployment Insurance Trust Fund, which would have pooled funds to help businesses provide financial support for laid-off workers. The trust fund had $4.6 billion to support workers at the beginning of the pandemic, but has since been depleted to $864 million.

Michigan Republican Party Chairwoman Laura Cox criticized the veto. "First, Governor Whitmer put people out of work with her shutdown orders," Cox said. "Then, through her administration's incompetence, it became almost impossible for out-of-work Michiganders to receive unemployment benefits."

"Now, Whitmer has vetoed extending aid to workers even though her draconian shutdowns continue. Clearly, the 'science' Whitmer is following doesn't include basic economics, and Michigan families are paying the price," Cox finished.

Number one..... you know if a biker posted it there is more to the story.

If Republicans were for it then they definitely had some kind.
of shenanigans going on in the bill and that's why she vetoed it.
"To be very clear, this will not impact individual workers. General fund dollars have got to be used to fund essential services, like vaccines and PPE, not to give tax breaks to big businesses right now," Whitmer said during a news conference earlier Tuesday.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 071250001/
What part of the additional 220 million into the UITF are you not understanding?
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Stapes wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:21 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:15 pm
Michigan Governor vetoes bill extending unemployment benefits, refuses to lift lockdowns

The bill would have provided $220 million in funding to the Unemployment Insurance Trust Fund, which would have pooled funds to help businesses provide financial support for laid-off workers.


Democratic Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer vetoed a bill on Tuesday which would have extended unemployment benefits for workers affected by the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, MLive reports.

The bill would have provided $220 million in funding to the Unemployment Insurance Trust Fund, which would have pooled funds to help businesses provide financial support for laid-off workers. The trust fund had $4.6 billion to support workers at the beginning of the pandemic, but has since been depleted to $864 million.

Michigan Republican Party Chairwoman Laura Cox criticized the veto. "First, Governor Whitmer put people out of work with her shutdown orders," Cox said. "Then, through her administration's incompetence, it became almost impossible for out-of-work Michiganders to receive unemployment benefits."

"Now, Whitmer has vetoed extending aid to workers even though her draconian shutdowns continue. Clearly, the 'science' Whitmer is following doesn't include basic economics, and Michigan families are paying the price," Cox finished.

Number one..... you know if a biker posted it there is more to the story.

If Republicans were for it then they definitely had some kind.
of shenanigans going on in the bill and that's why she vetoed it.
Youre a fucking sheep.
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Biker wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:25 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:23 pm
Stapes wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:21 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:15 pm
Michigan Governor vetoes bill extending unemployment benefits, refuses to lift lockdowns

The bill would have provided $220 million in funding to the Unemployment Insurance Trust Fund, which would have pooled funds to help businesses provide financial support for laid-off workers.


Democratic Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer vetoed a bill on Tuesday which would have extended unemployment benefits for workers affected by the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, MLive reports.

The bill would have provided $220 million in funding to the Unemployment Insurance Trust Fund, which would have pooled funds to help businesses provide financial support for laid-off workers. The trust fund had $4.6 billion to support workers at the beginning of the pandemic, but has since been depleted to $864 million.

Michigan Republican Party Chairwoman Laura Cox criticized the veto. "First, Governor Whitmer put people out of work with her shutdown orders," Cox said. "Then, through her administration's incompetence, it became almost impossible for out-of-work Michiganders to receive unemployment benefits."

"Now, Whitmer has vetoed extending aid to workers even though her draconian shutdowns continue. Clearly, the 'science' Whitmer is following doesn't include basic economics, and Michigan families are paying the price," Cox finished.

Number one..... you know if a biker posted it there is more to the story.

If Republicans were for it then they definitely had some kind.
of shenanigans going on in the bill and that's why she vetoed it.
"To be very clear, this will not impact individual workers. General fund dollars have got to be used to fund essential services, like vaccines and PPE, not to give tax breaks to big businesses right now," Whitmer said during a news conference earlier Tuesday.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 071250001/
What part of the additional 220 million into the UITF are you not understanding?
You're taking the Rethugs part of this and dismissing the Governor's. They don't like each other. Don't know who's right myself. Apparently you've already decided, as "a democrat," that it's the Rethugs. "Surprising"
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FSchmertz wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:27 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:25 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:23 pm
Stapes wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:21 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:15 pm
Michigan Governor vetoes bill extending unemployment benefits, refuses to lift lockdowns

The bill would have provided $220 million in funding to the Unemployment Insurance Trust Fund, which would have pooled funds to help businesses provide financial support for laid-off workers.


Democratic Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer vetoed a bill on Tuesday which would have extended unemployment benefits for workers affected by the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, MLive reports.

The bill would have provided $220 million in funding to the Unemployment Insurance Trust Fund, which would have pooled funds to help businesses provide financial support for laid-off workers. The trust fund had $4.6 billion to support workers at the beginning of the pandemic, but has since been depleted to $864 million.

Michigan Republican Party Chairwoman Laura Cox criticized the veto. "First, Governor Whitmer put people out of work with her shutdown orders," Cox said. "Then, through her administration's incompetence, it became almost impossible for out-of-work Michiganders to receive unemployment benefits."

"Now, Whitmer has vetoed extending aid to workers even though her draconian shutdowns continue. Clearly, the 'science' Whitmer is following doesn't include basic economics, and Michigan families are paying the price," Cox finished.

Number one..... you know if a biker posted it there is more to the story.

If Republicans were for it then they definitely had some kind.
of shenanigans going on in the bill and that's why she vetoed it.
"To be very clear, this will not impact individual workers. General fund dollars have got to be used to fund essential services, like vaccines and PPE, not to give tax breaks to big businesses right now," Whitmer said during a news conference earlier Tuesday.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 071250001/
What part of the additional 220 million into the UITF are you not understanding?
You're taking the Rethugs part of this and dismissing the Governor's. They don't like each other. Don't know who's right myself. Apparently you've already decided, as "a democrat," that it's the Rethugs. "Surprising"
So you dont tie small businesses with individual workers? Who do you think works in those businesses?
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Biker wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:32 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:27 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:25 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:23 pm
Stapes wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:21 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:15 pm

Number one..... you know if a biker posted it there is more to the story.

If Republicans were for it then they definitely had some kind.
of shenanigans going on in the bill and that's why she vetoed it.
"To be very clear, this will not impact individual workers. General fund dollars have got to be used to fund essential services, like vaccines and PPE, not to give tax breaks to big businesses right now," Whitmer said during a news conference earlier Tuesday.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 071250001/
What part of the additional 220 million into the UITF are you not understanding?
You're taking the Rethugs part of this and dismissing the Governor's. They don't like each other. Don't know who's right myself. Apparently you've already decided, as "a democrat," that it's the Rethugs. "Surprising"
So you dont tie small businesses with individual workers? Who do you think works in those businesses?
this will not impact individual workers
What difference does is make, if that's true?
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FSchmertz wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:34 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:32 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:27 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:25 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:23 pm
Stapes wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:21 pm


Number one..... you know if a biker posted it there is more to the story.

If Republicans were for it then they definitely had some kind.
of shenanigans going on in the bill and that's why she vetoed it.
"To be very clear, this will not impact individual workers. General fund dollars have got to be used to fund essential services, like vaccines and PPE, not to give tax breaks to big businesses right now," Whitmer said during a news conference earlier Tuesday.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 071250001/
What part of the additional 220 million into the UITF are you not understanding?
You're taking the Rethugs part of this and dismissing the Governor's. They don't like each other. Don't know who's right myself. Apparently you've already decided, as "a democrat," that it's the Rethugs. "Surprising"
So you dont tie small businesses with individual workers? Who do you think works in those businesses?
this will not impact individual workers
What difference does is make, if that's true?
I dunno, if the fund runs out of money? Its down to 800 million when at the start of the pandemic it was at 4.5 billion. You really think adding another 220 million is a bad idea just because someone with a D beside her name said so? Thats not really being 'above the fray', is it?
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Biker wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:36 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:34 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:32 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:27 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:25 pm
What part of the additional 220 million into the UITF are you not understanding?
You're taking the Rethugs part of this and dismissing the Governor's. They don't like each other. Don't know who's right myself. Apparently you've already decided, as "a democrat," that it's the Rethugs. "Surprising"
So you dont tie small businesses with individual workers? Who do you think works in those businesses?
this will not impact individual workers
What difference does is make, if that's true?
I dunno, if the fund runs out of money? Its down to 800 million when at the start of the pandemic it was at 4.5 billion. You really think adding another 220 million is a bad idea just because someone with a D beside her name said so? Thats not really being 'above the fray', is it?
She thinks it's only to bail out businesses, doesn't think it's necessary, so she doesn't want it. Is she right? No idea. Are the Rethugs right to ask for it? No idea. Don't live there, so it's really not my business anyhow.

If it "runs out of money," what keeps them from putting more money in later?
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If there are no businesses there is no need for "individual workers". They go hand-in-hand.
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:43 pm If there are no businesses there is no need for "individual workers". They go hand-in-hand.
Isn't that one of the reasons for the Fed $903 billion, to give more money to businesses?

There's a legitimate debate over COVID restrictions and economic damage. Difficult balancing act, weighing immediate risk to life against probable long term effects on lives of possible economic devastation. Won't pretend there's one right answer (or answers).

P.S. And yeah, the bill is gonna come due eventually for all of this Fed credit card gifting. :o
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Whitmer removed a $220 million section of a bill slated to go toward unemployment. She argued there were already funds allocated through a different bill that she signed Monday to extend unemployment through March.
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FSchmertz wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:49 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:43 pm If there are no businesses there is no need for "individual workers". They go hand-in-hand.
Isn't that one of the reasons for the Fed $903 billion, to give more money to businesses?

There's a legitimate debate over COVID restrictions and economic damage. Difficult balancing act, weighing immediate risk to life against probable long term effects on lives of possible economic devastation. Won't pretend there's one right answer (or answers).

P.S. And yeah, the bill is gonna come due eventually for all of this Fed credit card gifting. :o
if you opened up businesses and let them get to work and hire people back you wouldn't be having to print up money to bail them out. this is such a stupid debate. only a fucking democrat could shut down business and then ask taxpayers to bail them out.
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Lee County in florida is having a first come first serve for over 65 year olds....no appointments......for 300 doses..... Lol. Fucking old people doing a mad scramble.... Sleeping on lawn chairs overnight.... Lol. Christ on a cross
I blame Biker.
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Stapes wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:08 am Lee County in florida is having a first come first serve for over 65 year olds....no appointments......for 300 doses..... Lol. Fucking old people doing a mad scramble.... Sleeping on lawn chairs overnight.... Lol. Christ on a cross
Not sure why, Dawn Wells was over 80 and didn't die from it
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Stapes wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:08 am Lee County in florida is having a first come first serve for over 65 year olds....no appointments......for 300 doses..... Lol. Fucking old people doing a mad scramble.... Sleeping on lawn chairs overnight.... Lol. Christ on a cross
what place in the line did you get?
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Animal wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:15 am
Stapes wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:08 am Lee County in florida is having a first come first serve for over 65 year olds....no appointments......for 300 doses..... Lol. Fucking old people doing a mad scramble.... Sleeping on lawn chairs overnight.... Lol. Christ on a cross
what place in the line did you get?
Oh snap... What a witty burn.... I don't know where you Texans come up with this stuff.... golly
I blame Biker.
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Stapes wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:25 am
Animal wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:15 am
Stapes wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:08 am Lee County in florida is having a first come first serve for over 65 year olds....no appointments......for 300 doses..... Lol. Fucking old people doing a mad scramble.... Sleeping on lawn chairs overnight.... Lol. Christ on a cross
what place in the line did you get?
Oh snap... What a witty burn.... I don't know where you Texans come up with this stuff.... golly
ah. more than 300 i guess.
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Biker wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:31 pm
BigRedRetard wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:26 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:25 pm Letlow, 41, died at Ochsner-LSU Health Shreveport from “complications from COVID-19,” his spokesman, Andrew Bautsch, said in a statement.
I believe the hospital over his spokesman. He died during surgery you dupe.
Sounds like another case of died with COVID, not from it

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Died of a heart attack while being intubated because he couldn't breathe on his own. Pretty hard to blame that on covid amirite?
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