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Remember, the reason vaccine fanatics insist that the mRNA vaccines are NOT gene therapies is that they supposedly have no impact on the nucleus of the cell, where we store our DNA, our core genetic material. Instead, the mRNA is degraded in the cytosol, which is outside the cell’s nucleus.

Some scientists have argued that under certain unlikely circumstances the mRNA can make its way into the nucleus - but that debate is actually irrelevant here. The authors were looking not for the vaccine material but for the presence of the coronavirus proteins, including the spike, in the nucleus.

And - to their surprise - they found the spike.

They then went on to examine how the spike protein might impact the repair of damaged DNA in the nucleus.

Over time, radiation, chemicals, and other molecular-level insults can introduce errors into our DNA, which can cause a cascade of catastrophic consequences, including cancer. To prevent this, our cells have mechanisms to repair their own DNA.

But - at least in the experiments these two scientists ran - the spike protein appeared to interfere with our own DNA repair proteins: “Mechanistically, we found that the spike protein localizes in the nucleus and inhibits DNA damage repair by impeding key DNA repair protein BRCA1 and 53BP1 recruitment to the damage site.”

To be clear, the scientists did NOT prove the spike protein was causing these problems in people, or even animals. Nor did they show they had found the spike protein in human nuclei following the administration of Covid vaccines. Their research was confined to cells - in vitro, not in vivo.

Nonetheless, at a time when advanced countries that have high mRNA (and DNA/AAV) vaccination rates are seeing unusually full hospitals and higher-than-normal death rates, they are yet more cause for concern. As the authors explained:

“Our findings reveal a potential molecular mechanism by which the spike protein might impede adaptive immunity and underscore the potential side effects of full-length spike-based vaccines.”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8538446/

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Looks to be a longer lasting treatment than the dud vaccines
Regeneron says single dose of antibody treatment cut COVID-19 risk by 81%


TARRYTOWN, N.Y. - Regeneron Pharmaceuticals said Monday that a single dose of its antibody treatment reduced the risk of contracting COVID-19 by 81.6% for up to eight months, according to its late-stage trial. The company said the results could potentially pave the way for broader use in helping to protect certain people with weakened immune systems.

The monoclonal antibody treatment, called REGEN-COV, is currently available under an emergency use authorization by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to treat patients with mild to moderate COVID-19 and are at risk of developing severe symptoms. It has also received FDA emergency approval as a preventive treatment for some people at high risk for developing severe COVID-19, are not fully vaccinated or are immunocompromised, and have known exposure to the virus.

The Tarrytown, New York-based biotech company announced the results of its Phase 3 clinical trial jointly run with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), which assessed giving the treatment to people who lived in a household with someone diagnosed with COVID-19 within the previous four days.

It said four subcutaneous injections of the monoclonal antibody treatment protected uninfected people from contracting COVID-19 by 81.6% during the follow-up period of two to eight months, up from 81.4% after one month. Four injections of the treatment are considered one dose.

"These results demonstrate that REGEN-COV has the potential to provide long-lasting immunity from SARS-CoV-2 infection, a result particularly important to those who do not respond to COVID-19 vaccines including people who are immunocompromised," Dr. Myron Cohen, a physician who leads the monoclonal antibody efforts for the National Institutes of Health, said in a news release.
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four injections of the drug are considered "one dose"? is that a marketing gimmick to call it "one dose"?
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Animal wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:37 pm four injections of the drug are considered "one dose"? is that a marketing gimmick to call it "one dose"?
Looks to be. The results are still very impressive
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Biker wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:39 pm
Animal wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:37 pm four injections of the drug are considered "one dose"? is that a marketing gimmick to call it "one dose"?
Looks to be. The results are still very impressive
yep and if that reads right it already has FDA approval? so its being used now?
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Animal wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:41 pm
Biker wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:39 pm
Animal wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:37 pm four injections of the drug are considered "one dose"? is that a marketing gimmick to call it "one dose"?
Looks to be. The results are still very impressive
yep and if that reads right it already has FDA approval? so its being used now?
No, not fully approved yet. Still operating under EUA
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Biker wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:44 pm
Animal wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:41 pm
Biker wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:39 pm
Animal wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:37 pm four injections of the drug are considered "one dose"? is that a marketing gimmick to call it "one dose"?
Looks to be. The results are still very impressive
yep and if that reads right it already has FDA approval? so its being used now?
No, not fully approved yet. Still operating under EUA
well, we went a year of that with the vaccines under emergency use. and they injected 150 million people under emergency use. so its being used like that, right?
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Animal wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:51 pm
Biker wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:44 pm
Animal wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:41 pm
Biker wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:39 pm
Animal wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:37 pm four injections of the drug are considered "one dose"? is that a marketing gimmick to call it "one dose"?
Looks to be. The results are still very impressive
yep and if that reads right it already has FDA approval? so its being used now?
No, not fully approved yet. Still operating under EUA
well, we went a year of that with the vaccines under emergency use. and they injected 150 million people under emergency use. so its being used like that, right?
Yeah, that what I understand. They are well in the process of getting fully approved and looks to have it by years end
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Wait, dont tell me; this just means its working!!! Its a fucking dud, people. Look towards the therapeutics

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Biker wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:27 pm Wait, dont tell me; this just means its working!!! Its a fucking dud, people. Look towards the therapeutics

https://mobile.twitter.com/ReddingtonAl ... 8827623430
This is what happens when you are a dupe and don't fact check your shit and take 30 second sound bites as gospel. If you watched the whole thing you will see that the Director corrects himself that he misspoke


https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/no-hos ... accinated/


No, hospitalised COVID-19 patients in NSW aren’t all vaccinated
AAP FactCheck July 27, 2021



THE STATEMENT
A Facebook post featuring a slip-up by an Australia health official at a press conference has been used to claim that COVID-19 vaccines are “literally useless” in preventing people from being hospitalised.

The post by an Australian page includes a link to a video clip of NSW Health’s Jeremy McAnulty providing COVID-19 statistics for July 25, including a breakdown of the number of new cases for the previous 24 hours.

In the clip, Dr McAnulty announces that 141 people are in hospital with COVID-19 and 43 of those in intensive care. He goes on to provide a breakdown of the patients’ ages before saying: “All but one are vaccinated. One person had just received one dose of vaccine” (video mark 40sec).

The post’s caption focuses on that line to claim: “The conclusion is very simple dear Watson. Out of 141 ‘cases’ all but one were injected. Therefore the fluid injected into the test subjects is literally useless”.

The video of Dr McAnulty and accompanying claims that all but one of the hospitalised cases were vaccinated also circulated overseas, including on US website the Gateway Pundit, a frequent source of misinformation.


THE ANALYSIS

NSW Health director of health protection Jeremy McAnulty misspoke when initially detailing the vaccination status of people in hospital. Dr McAnulty later corrected the record during the same press conference, identifying that everyone in intensive care units (ICUs) in the state due to COVID-19 was unvaccinated – except for one individual who was partially vaccinated.

The post’s caption also incorrectly attributes vaccination status to 141 people in hospital when in fact Dr McAnulty was referring to the 43 individuals in ICU.

On July 25, while providing an update on COVID-19 cases in New South Wales, Dr McAnulty initially said: “All but one are vaccinated. One person had just received one dose of vaccine.” (video mark 8min 49sec)

He later corrected his initial statement in the press conference when asked by a journalist for clarification, saying: “I think I misspoke before.” (video mark 36min 9sec)

“So of the 43 people in intensive care units, 42 have not been vaccinated. One person had just one dose of vaccine – incomplete vaccine,” Dr McAnulty said.

A NSW Health spokesman told AAP FactCheck in an email that the post’s claim regarding the patients’ vaccination statuses was “incorrect”.

“All but one were unvaccinated. Dr McAnulty made this clear later in the same press conference,” the spokesman said.

The slip-up led to a number of social media users claiming that vaccines are “useless” in preventing hospitalisation.

Only 16.7 per cent of the Australian population aged 16 and over had received two COVID-19 vaccine doses as of 26 July, with the vaccination rate slightly lower in NSW.

Real-world studies have shown that the full two doses of the AstraZeneca or Pfizer COVID-19 vaccines, the inoculations in use in Australia, are extremely effective in reducing the risk of hospitalisation in vaccinated individuals.

According to a study published in The Lancet examining data from Israel, the Pfizer vaccine was 97 per cent effective against COVID-19-related hospitalisation among those who were fully vaccinated.

Another study published in The Lancet identified there were no cases of hospitalisation among nearly 12,000 clinical trial participants who received two doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine (Table 5).

When it comes to the Delta strain, initial data from Public Health England suggested the AstraZeneca vaccine was 92 per cent effective against hospitalisation in fully vaccinated individuals while Pfizer vaccines were 96 per cent effective.
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Biker wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:27 pm Wait, dont tell me; this just means its working!!! Its a fucking dud, people. Look towards the therapeutics

https://mobile.twitter.com/ReddingtonAl ... 8827623430
does it strike you as odd at all that someone would have to dig up a clip from Wales in order to attempt to make a point?
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[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-k9m9hKP5o[/media]

go to 34 minute mark
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Stapes wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:45 pm
This is what happens when you are a dupe and don't fact check your shit and take 30 second sound bites as gospel. If you watched the whole thing you will see that the Director corrects himself that he misspoke
Oh, he misspoke. Convenient
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Animal wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:55 pm [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-k9m9hKP5o[/media]

go to 34 minute mark
OK then. My bad
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Biker wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:59 pm
Stapes wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:45 pm
This is what happens when you are a dupe and don't fact check your shit and take 30 second sound bites as gospel. If you watched the whole thing you will see that the Director corrects himself that he misspoke
Oh, he misspoke. Convenient
Everything you post is garbage. You have not been right about anything ever. Don't you think its time you just stop posting?
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Biker wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:59 pm
Stapes wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:45 pm
This is what happens when you are a dupe and don't fact check your shit and take 30 second sound bites as gospel. If you watched the whole thing you will see that the Director corrects himself that he misspoke
Oh, he misspoke. Convenient
yeah, he obviously misspoke. see, if you listen to the first of that video they talk for several minutes about how effective the vaccine has been and how much it has helped and reduced cases and reduced transmissions, etc. exhaustively they talked about how great the vaccine is.

throw on top of that the fact that 90% of that country is vaccinated. 90%. these people in the hospital are a statistical gold mine to prove how good the vaccine works. 40 out of 41 are not vaccinated. in a country where only 10% of the people are unvaccinated. that's an amazing statistic to prove how great the vaccines are working.
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Stapes wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:02 pm
Biker wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:59 pm
Stapes wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:45 pm
This is what happens when you are a dupe and don't fact check your shit and take 30 second sound bites as gospel. If you watched the whole thing you will see that the Director corrects himself that he misspoke
Oh, he misspoke. Convenient
Everything you post is garbage. You have not been right about anything ever. Don't you think its time you just stop posting?
Wrong, cunty. This is the only thing of late that has been inaccurate.

Did you refute this random fact yet, simp?

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And what about this gem? He lied to you, repeatedly now, and you still dont question a goddamn thing. Youre a fucking disgrace to democracy

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Biker wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:14 pm
Stapes wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:02 pm
Biker wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:59 pm
Stapes wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:45 pm
This is what happens when you are a dupe and don't fact check your shit and take 30 second sound bites as gospel. If you watched the whole thing you will see that the Director corrects himself that he misspoke
Oh, he misspoke. Convenient
Everything you post is garbage. You have not been right about anything ever. Don't you think its time you just stop posting?
Wrong, cunty. This is the only thing of late that has been inaccurate.

Did you refute this random fact yet, simp?

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and most of those are elderly nursing home patients. Why don't you put all the facts on the table instead of scare tactics and skewing the information.....The vaccine is no magic bullet for 85 year olds and you know it....never has been.
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Stapes wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:38 pm
Biker wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:14 pm
Stapes wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:02 pm
Biker wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:59 pm
Stapes wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:45 pm
This is what happens when you are a dupe and don't fact check your shit and take 30 second sound bites as gospel. If you watched the whole thing you will see that the Director corrects himself that he misspoke
Oh, he misspoke. Convenient
Everything you post is garbage. You have not been right about anything ever. Don't you think its time you just stop posting?
Wrong, cunty. This is the only thing of late that has been inaccurate.

Did you refute this random fact yet, simp?

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and most of those are elderly nursing home patients. Why don't you put all the facts on the table instead of scare tactics and skewing the information.....The vaccine is no magic bullet for 85 year olds and you know it....never has been.
But the majority of the unvaccinated dead are also 85 year olds. And that does stop you from saying 600k dead. You know, using scare tactics and all.
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and the anti-vaxxer chimes in. once again. :lol:
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Animal wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:11 pm and the anti-vaxxer chimes in. once again. :lol:
That has taken the vaccine and tells people to take it. But his argument is shit. Either it matters that most of the people dead are really old or it doesn't, he can't have it both ways.
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necronomous wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:13 pm
Animal wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:11 pm and the anti-vaxxer chimes in. once again. :lol:
That has taken the vaccine and tells people to take it. But his argument is shit. Either it matters that most of the people dead are really old or it doesn't, he can't have it both ways.
and what point are you trying to make? what is the reason for this important clarification that you have made? could it be to misinform people?
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Animal wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:08 pm
Biker wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:59 pm
Stapes wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:45 pm
This is what happens when you are a dupe and don't fact check your shit and take 30 second sound bites as gospel. If you watched the whole thing you will see that the Director corrects himself that he misspoke
Oh, he misspoke. Convenient
yeah, he obviously misspoke. see, if you listen to the first of that video they talk for several minutes about how effective the vaccine has been and how much it has helped and reduced cases and reduced transmissions, etc. exhaustively they talked about how great the vaccine is.

throw on top of that the fact that 90% of that country is vaccinated. 90%. these people in the hospital are a statistical gold mine to prove how good the vaccine works. 40 out of 41 are not vaccinated. in a country where only 10% of the people are unvaccinated. that's an amazing statistic to prove how great the vaccines are working.
But if you want to get critical of the vaccine, there are more dead this year than last, though we have the vaccine.
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