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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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Cassandros wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:28 am
Animal wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:44 pm
Cassandros wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:06 am You are not usually this childish.

Those same false positives were used against you day in and day out.

The fearporn robbed many people of their reason and several "free nations" have given themselves remarkable power under the pretext of those numbers.
childish is when a grown adult tries to sound smart by using what they think are complex sentences to support a completely foolish point.

When the sample size of an actual experiment is over 5 billion people on a planet where the entire population of that planet is less than 8 billion, then you wouldn't need conspiracy theories to prove there was a problem if there was one. We would all SEE IT. There would be no where to hide it. 9 pages of hidden reports wouldn't mean jack shit.
You keep rallying behind the false premise that higher quantities = more safety.

There is a reason these kinds of medicines usually take closer to ten years to create and evaluate.

With how many people have taken these vaccines and continue to take these vaccines, be it by choice, coercion, or force; I hope you are right and 5 billion people don't develop a ton of medical issues over the next few years. Unfortunately we won't really know for a while still. (If ever, really).

BUT, there is one thing that is painfully clear, the vaccines (and most masks) do not impede transmission enough to justify any sort of general mandates. The fact that many countries are still working towards vaccine passport schemes, including I think over 20 US states (via the SMART healthcard system) should be very alarming.
you might be right. 10 years from now might shed new light on the situation. But, its not 10 years from now. So stop pretending that you have all of this evidence that proves you are right. The odds are actually much higher that you are wrong. If you are wrong, what about all of the people that died because this bullshit you people spread stopped people from getting the protection that could have prevented their death from covid?

what motivates a person to "hope" for a vaccine to fail? To "hope" that 10 years from now they were right? Are people really that small minded?
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Animal wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:55 pm
Cassandros wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:28 am
Animal wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:44 pm
Cassandros wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:06 am You are not usually this childish.

Those same false positives were used against you day in and day out.

The fearporn robbed many people of their reason and several "free nations" have given themselves remarkable power under the pretext of those numbers.
childish is when a grown adult tries to sound smart by using what they think are complex sentences to support a completely foolish point.

When the sample size of an actual experiment is over 5 billion people on a planet where the entire population of that planet is less than 8 billion, then you wouldn't need conspiracy theories to prove there was a problem if there was one. We would all SEE IT. There would be no where to hide it. 9 pages of hidden reports wouldn't mean jack shit.
You keep rallying behind the false premise that higher quantities = more safety.

There is a reason these kinds of medicines usually take closer to ten years to create and evaluate.

With how many people have taken these vaccines and continue to take these vaccines, be it by choice, coercion, or force; I hope you are right and 5 billion people don't develop a ton of medical issues over the next few years. Unfortunately we won't really know for a while still. (If ever, really).

BUT, there is one thing that is painfully clear, the vaccines (and most masks) do not impede transmission enough to justify any sort of general mandates. The fact that many countries are still working towards vaccine passport schemes, including I think over 20 US states (via the SMART healthcard system) should be very alarming.
you might be right. 10 years from now might shed new light on the situation. But, its not 10 years from now. So stop pretending that you have all of this evidence that proves you are right. The odds are actually much higher that you are wrong. If you are wrong, what about all of the people that died because this bullshit you people spread stopped people from getting the protection that could have prevented their death from covid?

what motivates a person to "hope" for a vaccine to fail? To "hope" that 10 years from now they were right? Are people really that small minded?
I can't speak of the motives of others; I can only speak the truth for myself.

And the truth is: there is more evidence supporting my fears that the mRNA vaccines are not as safe as they were promised coming out every day! Of course, when you have people who sit on both Big Pharma AND Big Media, the MSM will be slow to report anything but official fearporn narratives...

One easy example (I expect you to dismiss, as its a bitter thought to even consider):
There is evidence the mRNA vaccines have a p53-inhibiting protein production factory that forms at the very site in the body that is most affected by p53-related cancers. Cite

Now, don't get me wrong; if you have major co-morbidities and/or are over 65- the vaccine might be a smart move even when considering potential long term safety issues. But, to mandate everyone take this shot, to set up systems where if you are not up to date on your boosters you can, quite literally, be removed from society --> is not just wrong, its a fucking sin against humanity.

At the end of the day the choice to inoculate or not is up to the individual (and their family).
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we should know soon enough if your "the vaccine causes cancer" theory is right. With over 5 billion test specimens walking around. I sure hope you are right so you don't feel stupid over this.
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Why should we know "soon enough"?

Smoking cigarettes causes cancer in... how many years of smoking?

But you said it right, 5 billion test subjects. You want be a lab rat, more power to you. But don't come after me, insisting/mandating that I have to be one also. You made your choice to take the risk of the vaccine, I made mine to risk the virus.

By all that is good and holy, I hope you are right and these vaccines are much safer than they seem. BUT, knowing Big Pharma's track record regarding marketing known harmful medicines and that they have complete and total immunity from liability in this arena --> its a long shot.

But hey, think of all that money that will be made treating cancer in the next few years to decades. $$
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Cassandros wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:52 am Why should we know "soon enough"?

Smoking cigarettes causes cancer in... how many years of smoking?

But you said it right, 5 billion test subjects. You want be a lab rat, more power to you. But don't come after me, insisting/mandating that I have to be one also. You made your choice to take the risk of the vaccine, I made mine to risk the virus.

By all that is good and holy, I hope you are right and these vaccines are much safer than they seem. BUT, knowing Big Pharma's track record regarding marketing known harmful medicines and that they have complete and total immunity from liability in this arena --> its a long shot.

But hey, think of all that money that will be made treating cancer in the next few years to decades. $$
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Congrats USA!! 1 million Covid deaths!

USA!!USA!!USA!!USA!!USA!!USA!!USA!!USA!!USA!!


:beavisbutthead: :usa: :usa: :usa:

:angel: TIMES ONE MILLION!!
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Who wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:21 am My social security just got safer
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Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:35 am Image

Congrats USA!! 1 million Covid deaths!

USA!!USA!!USA!!USA!!USA!!USA!!USA!!USA!!USA!!


:beavisbutthead: :usa: :usa: :usa:

:angel: TIMES ONE MILLION!!
Except it’s a bullshit number
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Biker wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:23 pm
Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:35 am Image

Congrats USA!! 1 million Covid deaths!

USA!!USA!!USA!!USA!!USA!!USA!!USA!!USA!!USA!!


:beavisbutthead: :usa: :usa: :usa:

:angel: TIMES ONE MILLION!!
Except it’s a bullshit number
Yeah. Likely closer to 2 million.
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Oh Noes!
EFMN, good thing you dont live in PA!

Pennsylvania judge rules in favor of parents, removes five board members over mandatory masks in schools
https://thepostmillennial.com/pennsylva ... aign=64487
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:13 am Oh Noes!
EFMN, good thing you dont live in PA!

Pennsylvania judge rules in favor of parents, removes five board members over mandatory masks in schools
https://thepostmillennial.com/pennsylva ... aign=64487
HAHAHA. Its hilarious that people take wearing a mask is like an assault on liberties. Its just a fukking mask. Not shackles. NOT a Jewish death star. Wow.

So they went to the courts to do this. Nothing better to do?

Y'all got some fukked up priorities down there.
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BigRedRetard wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:28 pm
Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:49 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:13 am Oh Noes!
EFMN, good thing you dont live in PA!

Pennsylvania judge rules in favor of parents, removes five board members over mandatory masks in schools
https://thepostmillennial.com/pennsylva ... aign=64487
HAHAHA. Its hilarious that people take wearing a mask is like an assault on liberties. Its just a fukking mask. Not shackles. NOT a Jewish death star. Wow.

So they went to the courts to do this. Nothing better to do?

Y'all got some fukked up priorities down there.
Its not the masks. Its the mandates. People would be more likely to wear them if they aren't being forced to.
Maybe at the beginning this has a chance. But no way its happening now. I'd like to see this tried. Have a school lift the mandates and just recommend masks. My guess is 90% dont wear them.
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Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:36 pm
BigRedRetard wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:28 pm
Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:49 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:13 am Oh Noes!
EFMN, good thing you dont live in PA!

Pennsylvania judge rules in favor of parents, removes five board members over mandatory masks in schools
https://thepostmillennial.com/pennsylva ... aign=64487
HAHAHA. Its hilarious that people take wearing a mask is like an assault on liberties. Its just a fukking mask. Not shackles. NOT a Jewish death star. Wow.

So they went to the courts to do this. Nothing better to do?

Y'all got some fukked up priorities down there.
Its not the masks. Its the mandates. People would be more likely to wear them if they aren't being forced to.
Maybe at the beginning this has a chance. But no way its happening now. I'd like to see this tried. Have a school lift the mandates and just recommend masks. My guess is 90% dont wear them.
i bet if private schools lifted the mandates for school uniforms and just made them "suggested" that they would have a tremendous turnout of students continuing to wear them.
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Animal wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:42 pm
Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:36 pm
BigRedRetard wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:28 pm
Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:49 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:13 am Oh Noes!
EFMN, good thing you dont live in PA!

Pennsylvania judge rules in favor of parents, removes five board members over mandatory masks in schools
https://thepostmillennial.com/pennsylva ... aign=64487
HAHAHA. Its hilarious that people take wearing a mask is like an assault on liberties. Its just a fukking mask. Not shackles. NOT a Jewish death star. Wow.

So they went to the courts to do this. Nothing better to do?

Y'all got some fukked up priorities down there.
Its not the masks. Its the mandates. People would be more likely to wear them if they aren't being forced to.
Maybe at the beginning this has a chance. But no way its happening now. I'd like to see this tried. Have a school lift the mandates and just recommend masks. My guess is 90% dont wear them.
i bet if private schools lifted the mandates for school uniforms and just made them "suggested" that they would have a tremendous turnout of students continuing to wear them.
I'd take that bet. My guess is the uniforms would be obsolete after a year. They are expensive and kids like to wear their own clothes.
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Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:49 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:13 am Oh Noes!
EFMN, good thing you dont live in PA!

Pennsylvania judge rules in favor of parents, removes five board members over mandatory masks in schools
https://thepostmillennial.com/pennsylva ... aign=64487
HAHAHA. Its hilarious that people take wearing a mask is like an assault on liberties. Its just a fukking mask. Not shackles. NOT a Jewish death star. Wow.

So they went to the courts to do this. Nothing better to do?

Y'all got some fukked up priorities down there.
Its the mandating of the masks that THE SCIENCE!!1!11 has shown to be basically 1 step above useless. Its ridiculous. At the same time...if you or whoever wants to wear them- go ahead. No one will stop you.
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:01 pm
Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:49 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:13 am Oh Noes!
EFMN, good thing you dont live in PA!

Pennsylvania judge rules in favor of parents, removes five board members over mandatory masks in schools
https://thepostmillennial.com/pennsylva ... aign=64487
HAHAHA. Its hilarious that people take wearing a mask is like an assault on liberties. Its just a fukking mask. Not shackles. NOT a Jewish death star. Wow.

So they went to the courts to do this. Nothing better to do?

Y'all got some fukked up priorities down there.
Its the mandating of the masks that THE SCIENCE!!1!11 has shown to be basically 1 step above useless. Its ridiculous. At the same time...if you or whoever wants to wear them- go ahead. No one will stop you.
Your "DoMyOwN ReSuRcH " science has discredited them. The rest of the world is OK with them. But somehow yous people turned it into a fight for control.
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Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:48 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:01 pm
Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:49 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:13 am Oh Noes!
EFMN, good thing you dont live in PA!

Pennsylvania judge rules in favor of parents, removes five board members over mandatory masks in schools
https://thepostmillennial.com/pennsylva ... aign=64487
HAHAHA. Its hilarious that people take wearing a mask is like an assault on liberties. Its just a fukking mask. Not shackles. NOT a Jewish death star. Wow.

So they went to the courts to do this. Nothing better to do?

Y'all got some fukked up priorities down there.
Its the mandating of the masks that THE SCIENCE!!1!11 has shown to be basically 1 step above useless. Its ridiculous. At the same time...if you or whoever wants to wear them- go ahead. No one will stop you.
Your "DoMyOwN ReSuRcH " science has discredited them. The rest of the world is OK with them. But somehow yous people turned it into a fight for control.
Conspiracy August 2020:

1. Masks dont really work
2. Social distancing does nothing
3. The virus likely came from a lab
4. Natural immunity is better than vaccinated immunity (And yes, natural and vaccination immunity is better than either or)
5. These vaccines arent what they cracked up to be (June 2021)

All of this was ridiculed by the media and 'Science' and all turned out to be true

So yeah, go fuck yourself
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Biker wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:17 pm Conspiracy August 2020:

1. Masks dont really work
2. Social distancing does nothing
3. The virus likely came from a lab
4. Natural immunity is better than vaccinated immunity (And yes, natural and vaccination immunity is better than either or)
5. These vaccines arent what they cracked up to be (June 2021)

All of this was ridiculed by the media and 'Science' and all turned out to be true

So yeah, go fuck yourself
The problem with hard headed numbskulls is that they just never seem to reason. I will hand it to you, it does seem like you are at least admitting that being vaccinated is better than not being vaccinated.

However, masks obviously work. They may not be 100%, but they are certainly better than nothing for a multitude of reasons. I hate masks and i hate to wear one, but i'm not going to take the idiot stance and say that they don't work. If they do nothing more than act as a psychological reminder that there is a dangerous infection going around, they are doing something.

A logical mind would conclude that social distancing matters somehow, what else would explain why places with people in close contact (large cities) get more infections or why is it that after holidays we have more infections. It just seems like a logical conclusion to make. All of my life, if someone was sick, i kept my distance from them. I assume you are saying now that has no impact on the outcome.

I have felt all along that it came from a lab, however that's just a hunch. I haven't heard any breaking news that they have traced the source down to a definitive origin.

Finally, you admit the vaccine works. I have absolutely no interest in catching Covid to get natural immunity.

The lifespan of the success rate of the vaccine is probably much shorter than anyone guessed. I never gave it much thought because I assumed people would be lined up to get the shot, we would get herd immunity in the first year and the virus would die out. I never heard anyone in the beginning talk about how long it should last. However, I am disappointed to find that its effectiveness goes down after 4 months or so. But as long as the booster is available, i'm okay with it in lieu of the alternative.
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Animal wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:39 pm
Biker wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:17 pm Conspiracy August 2020:

1. Masks dont really work
2. Social distancing does nothing
3. The virus likely came from a lab
4. Natural immunity is better than vaccinated immunity (And yes, natural and vaccination immunity is better than either or)
5. These vaccines arent what they cracked up to be (June 2021)

All of this was ridiculed by the media and 'Science' and all turned out to be true

So yeah, go fuck yourself
The problem with hard headed numbskulls is that they just never seem to reason. I will hand it to you, it does seem like you are at least admitting that being vaccinated is better than not being vaccinated.

However, masks obviously work. They may not be 100%, but they are certainly better than nothing for a multitude of reasons. I hate masks and i hate to wear one, but i'm not going to take the idiot stance and say that they don't work. If they do nothing more than act as a psychological reminder that there is a dangerous infection going around, they are doing something.

A logical mind would conclude that social distancing matters somehow, what else would explain why places with people in close contact (large cities) get more infections or why is it that after holidays we have more infections. It just seems like a logical conclusion to make. All of my life, if someone was sick, i kept my distance from them. I assume you are saying now that has no impact on the outcome.

I have felt all along that it came from a lab, however that's just a hunch. I haven't heard any breaking news that they have traced the source down to a definitive origin.

Finally, you admit the vaccine works. I have absolutely no interest in catching Covid to get natural immunity.

The lifespan of the success rate of the vaccine is probably much shorter than anyone guessed. I never gave it much thought because I assumed people would be lined up to get the shot, we would get herd immunity in the first year and the virus would die out. I never heard anyone in the beginning talk about how long it should last. However, I am disappointed to find that its effectiveness goes down after 4 months or so. But as long as the booster is available, i'm okay with it in lieu of the alternative.
Cloth and surgical masks are not really effective but K95 and N95 masks are. This is per CDC, not my Twitter feed
https://khn.org/morning-breakout/cdc-sa ... 95s-kn95s/

Johns Hopkins had a study that said social distancing didnt have an impact in spread.

The vaccines are not really vaccines in the traditional sense. Rather, they act as a temporary therapeutic that decreases death and severe illness for a few months. However, thats not what we were sold, as the number of stories and articles I've posted previously have stated
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I will concede that wearing the type of mask most people wear is slightly better than wearing no mask at all.
If you are an otherwise healthy vaccinated person, masks are patently ridiculous. I dont really care if someone wants to wear one though. Whatever. Hell, throw 2 or 3 on if it makes you feel better.
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:43 am I will concede that wearing the type of mask most people wear is slightly better than wearing no mask at all.
If you are an otherwise healthy vaccinated person, masks are patently ridiculous. I dont really care if someone wants to wear one though. Whatever. Hell, throw 2 or 3 on if it makes you feel better.
exactly.
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:43 am I will concede that wearing the type of mask most people wear is slightly better than wearing no mask at all.
Slightly better, meaning its nearly useless
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