The vaccines have failed (Was: The vaccines are failing)
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Re: The vaccines have failed (Was: The vaccines are failing)
It turned out to be 100% accurate, Ricky. Christ, youre dumb
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Re: The vaccines have failed (Was: The vaccines are failing)
I know we were told at the beginning that the vaccines "stopped the spread"; but that was never really true. You can catch and spread covid vaccinated or not.
The best aspect of this shot, which you must get prior to infection, is it allows you to protect yourself from the worst outcomes if you get sick; especially if you are old and/or unhealthy. But, this benefit diminishes with every mutation.
Lastly, there are over 1,000 reactions listed in its side effect profile...
So, what are you disputing here? The part where he suggests "Don't think of it as a vaccine"?
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one way to tell when someone has desperately lost an argument is when they start declaring themselves the winner.
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That just means it's working!!
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So that crazy FDA has now approved a second booster shot to anyone over 50 that wants it. You just have to wait until at least 4 months since your first booster.
I thought Biker had already proven how deadly this vaccine is? I wonder why they would go against such superb medical research as Biker's feed and make a decision like this? Soccer players have had cardiac events and stuff. Did they not hear that Justin Bieber's wife had about a one hour episode that left her fine?
I thought Biker had already proven how deadly this vaccine is? I wonder why they would go against such superb medical research as Biker's feed and make a decision like this? Soccer players have had cardiac events and stuff. Did they not hear that Justin Bieber's wife had about a one hour episode that left her fine?
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The next time a skier breaks his leg skiing, Biker will be in here saying the vaccine made his bones brittle.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:39 pm So that crazy FDA has now approved a second booster shot to anyone over 50 that wants it. You just have to wait until at least 4 months since your first booster.
I thought Biker had already proven how deadly this vaccine is? I wonder why they would go against such superb medical research as Biker's feed and make a decision like this? Soccer players have had cardiac events and stuff. Did they not hear that Justin Bieber's wife had about a one hour episode that left her fine?
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It does nothing for prevention of infection, which is the point for vaccines. It may help prevent hospitalizations. Maybe
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And yet they keep expanding its availability and promoting its use. Around the world.
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Go get your eight free COVID tests, guys!!!
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Governments are using the pandemic to their own (authoritative) ends, they have given Big Pharma massive layers of protection against liability if their shots do any damage, and big media has championed the cause while silencing any dissent (and even basic debate). All the while making big-BIG bucks.
So help me out here...
Why wouldn't they continue to push out more and more vaccines?
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first of all, they aren't pushing out more vaccines, these are the same old vaccines that we have been using for over a year now. the same ones that there are not massive layers of people lining up to file liability suits because of damage the shots have done. The reason they aren't lining up isn't because they aren't allowed to sue, they aren't lining up because they don't have any damages. But you know that and it makes you feel dumber than we all suspect you to be. you are a classic conspiracy moron that can't admit they were wrong and so you continue to cling to these stupid stories that make absolutely no sense at this point.Cassandros wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:00 amGovernments are using the pandemic to their own (authoritative) ends, they have given Big Pharma massive layers of protection against liability if their shots do any damage, and big media has championed the cause while silencing any dissent (and even basic debate). All the while making big-BIG bucks.
So help me out here...
Why wouldn't they continue to push out more and more vaccines?
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First off, you didn't answer the question. If you want to say "promote" instead of "push", that's on you. It changes nothing.Animal wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:23 amfirst of all, they aren't pushing out more vaccines, these are the same old vaccines that we have been using for over a year now. the same ones that there are not massive layers of people lining up to file liability suits because of damage the shots have done. The reason they aren't lining up isn't because they aren't allowed to sue, they aren't lining up because they don't have any damages. But you know that and it makes you feel dumber than we all suspect you to be. you are a classic conspiracy moron that can't admit they were wrong and so you continue to cling to these stupid stories that make absolutely no sense at this point.Cassandros wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:00 amGovernments are using the pandemic to their own (authoritative) ends, they have given Big Pharma massive layers of protection against liability if their shots do any damage, and big media has championed the cause while silencing any dissent (and even basic debate). All the while making big-BIG bucks.
So help me out here...
Why wouldn't they continue to push out more and more vaccines?
Now, if you want to talk about potential vaccine damage/reporting/compensation, I'm game.
Let's start with something simple: How does one prove a vaccine hurt them?
(Especially if they damage is minor, they have other health issues, or the damage doesn't appear until along years down the road).
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10 yo got the Covid. Threw up and felt shitty. Tested positive. The rest of us negative.
Day 2 she is fine. The 8 yo has to isolate for 5 days as she only has one jab.
Not sure if its vaxs working or this really mild covid going around. We are going back to face diapers. As are many in our area.
Be careful folks.
Day 2 she is fine. The 8 yo has to isolate for 5 days as she only has one jab.
Not sure if its vaxs working or this really mild covid going around. We are going back to face diapers. As are many in our area.
Be careful folks.
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are you so dense as to think that there are thousands of people that need the ability to sue vaccine makers because of damages they have suffered? You don't think that would somehow make the news? I probably heard 20 news stories today about WIll smith slapping Chris Rock. Nothing about some poor person that has permanent thingamajig damage from the vaccine.Cassandros wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:42 amFirst off, you didn't answer the question. If you want to say "promote" instead of "push", that's on you. It changes nothing.Animal wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:23 amfirst of all, they aren't pushing out more vaccines, these are the same old vaccines that we have been using for over a year now. the same ones that there are not massive layers of people lining up to file liability suits because of damage the shots have done. The reason they aren't lining up isn't because they aren't allowed to sue, they aren't lining up because they don't have any damages. But you know that and it makes you feel dumber than we all suspect you to be. you are a classic conspiracy moron that can't admit they were wrong and so you continue to cling to these stupid stories that make absolutely no sense at this point.Cassandros wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:00 amGovernments are using the pandemic to their own (authoritative) ends, they have given Big Pharma massive layers of protection against liability if their shots do any damage, and big media has championed the cause while silencing any dissent (and even basic debate). All the while making big-BIG bucks.
So help me out here...
Why wouldn't they continue to push out more and more vaccines?
Now, if you want to talk about potential vaccine damage/reporting/compensation, I'm game.
Let's start with something simple: How does one prove a vaccine hurt them?
(Especially if they damage is minor, they have other health issues, or the damage doesn't appear until along years down the road).
I hope you realize that the only reason the government gives these vaccine makers protection is to protect them against retards like you that dream up problems and want to prove yourself right about this so badly you would file a frivolous lawsuit.
your entire argument relies on words like "potential" or "maybe". get back to us when you have some real live facts to back up your stupidity.
and a person proves a vaccine hurts them the same way a person proves that some walmart lettuce gave them ecoli or some fish taco gave them food poisoning or a cigarette caused them lung cancer. surely you know that.
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You sure they weren't just hungover?Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:47 am 10 yo got the Covid. Threw up and felt shitty. Tested positive. The rest of us negative.
Day 2 she is fine. The 8 yo has to isolate for 5 days as she only has one jab.
Not sure if its vaxs working or this really mild covid going around. We are going back to face diapers. As are many in our area.
Be careful folks.
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A store tests the lettuce for e.coli and it would show up in your system when you are tested at the hospital. And "science" was on big tobacco's side for how many decades before finally relenting and admitting what people finally figured out years prior. So, yeah... I will have to ask you to try again.Animal wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:02 amare you so dense as to think that there are thousands of people that need the ability to sue vaccine makers because of damages they have suffered? You don't think that would somehow make the news? I probably heard 20 news stories today about WIll smith slapping Chris Rock. Nothing about some poor person that has permanent thingamajig damage from the vaccine.Cassandros wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:42 amFirst off, you didn't answer the question. If you want to say "promote" instead of "push", that's on you. It changes nothing.Animal wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:23 amfirst of all, they aren't pushing out more vaccines, these are the same old vaccines that we have been using for over a year now. the same ones that there are not massive layers of people lining up to file liability suits because of damage the shots have done. The reason they aren't lining up isn't because they aren't allowed to sue, they aren't lining up because they don't have any damages. But you know that and it makes you feel dumber than we all suspect you to be. you are a classic conspiracy moron that can't admit they were wrong and so you continue to cling to these stupid stories that make absolutely no sense at this point.Cassandros wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:00 amGovernments are using the pandemic to their own (authoritative) ends, they have given Big Pharma massive layers of protection against liability if their shots do any damage, and big media has championed the cause while silencing any dissent (and even basic debate). All the while making big-BIG bucks.
So help me out here...
Why wouldn't they continue to push out more and more vaccines?
Now, if you want to talk about potential vaccine damage/reporting/compensation, I'm game.
Let's start with something simple: How does one prove a vaccine hurt them?
(Especially if they damage is minor, they have other health issues, or the damage doesn't appear until along years down the road).
I hope you realize that the only reason the government gives these vaccine makers protection is to protect them against retards like you that dream up problems and want to prove yourself right about this so badly you would file a frivolous lawsuit.
your entire argument relies on words like "potential" or "maybe". get back to us when you have some real live facts to back up your stupidity.
and a person proves a vaccine hurts them the same way a person proves that some walmart lettuce gave them ecoli or some fish taco gave them food poisoning or a cigarette caused them lung cancer. surely you know that.
Here, I will even help; consider this basic, simple scenario:
I have high blood pressure or take any number of medications that affect my blood pressure. After I got my second shot (hours, not days) I noticed my heart would sometimes beat fast and then 'miss a beat', over and over, for a few minutes at a time; but thankfully it was really rare, like once ever couple weeks. And otherwise I felt completely normal with no apparent issues. Eventually I bring it up to my Dr and he discovers I have arrhythmia.
How do I prove that arrhythmia came from the shot, and not from the pre-existing condition, or what ever medication I was taking?
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Oh. And to answer your question: People likeJim Smith is why there were 20 news stories on Will Smith as opposed to, I dunno, whats been released in the pfizer doc's thus far.
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No guff. Like I said we tested her twice. Both very positive. Day later she is 100% and jumping around.peterosehaircut wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:17 amYou sure they weren't just hungover?Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:47 am 10 yo got the Covid. Threw up and felt shitty. Tested positive. The rest of us negative.
Day 2 she is fine. The 8 yo has to isolate for 5 days as she only has one jab.
Not sure if its vaxs working or this really mild covid going around. We are going back to face diapers. As are many in our area.
Be careful folks.
Cue the deniers "Ya mean we shut down the country for a cold?"
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Glad to hear y'all are doing ok.Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:47 am 10 yo got the Covid. Threw up and felt shitty. Tested positive. The rest of us negative.
Day 2 she is fine. The 8 yo has to isolate for 5 days as she only has one jab.
Not sure if its vaxs working or this really mild covid going around. We are going back to face diapers. As are many in our area.
Be careful folks.
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Thanks Biker. Day 3 and all good. Cheers.Biker wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:04 pmGlad to hear y'all are doing ok.Evil.Fkn.Mean,Nasty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:47 am 10 yo got the Covid. Threw up and felt shitty. Tested positive. The rest of us negative.
Day 2 she is fine. The 8 yo has to isolate for 5 days as she only has one jab.
Not sure if its vaxs working or this really mild covid going around. We are going back to face diapers. As are many in our area.
Be careful folks.
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you asked "How do you prove something was caused by something else. I mentioned ecoli as an example. then you post that, as if you debunked it? So, did this storie test the lettuce and know it had e.coli before you bought it? Or did they test the lettuce you bought after you bought it? And if you get sick and go to the hospital with e.coli how do they track that back to the lettuce store? The point is that you have to connect these dots, they don't connect themselves and that is my point. That would be how you would prove it. Life isn't just a series of events where your mom holds your hand and everyone protects you.Cassandros wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:39 am
A store tests the lettuce for e.coli and it would show up in your system when you are tested at the hospital.
Proving that the arrhythmia came from that shot should be pretty easy for you if it did the damage to your heart within hours. I guess you will just have to also prove why it didn't do the same thing to the other 5 billion people that got it. But it sounds like a slam dunk case to me.Here, I will even help; consider this basic, simple scenario:
I have high blood pressure or take any number of medications that affect my blood pressure. After I got my second shot (hours, not days) I noticed my heart would sometimes beat fast and then 'miss a beat', over and over, for a few minutes at a time; but thankfully it was really rare, like once ever couple weeks. And otherwise I felt completely normal with no apparent issues. Eventually I bring it up to my Dr and he discovers I have arrhythmia.
How do I prove that arrhythmia came from the shot, and not from the pre-existing condition, or what ever medication I was taking?