but...but....Hunter Biden!!

[saltydog]

Cool story, bro.
Now have a go at actually answering the question. If they are "amazingly unserious" then you should be easily able to just say "yes".

It seems you did get an answer, you just didn't register or acknowledge it.

"Whistleblower" after "whistleblower" turning up fake, missing, never to have existed, etc, seems to be what Salty was referencing. Color me surprised if you didn't already know that.

The willful ignorance is strong with the Bike/Cheese/Animal triumvirate.

[CHEEZY17]

Cool story, bro.
Now have a go at actually answering the question. If they are "amazingly unserious" then you should be easily able to just say "yes".

It seems you did get an answer, you just didn't register or acknowledge it.

"Whistleblower" after "whistleblower" turning up fake, missing, never to have existed, etc, seems to be what Salty was referencing. Color me surprised if you didn't already know that.

The willful ignorance is strong with the Bike/Cheese/Animal triumvirate.

LOLZ. Anything to defend the precious old man.
There are also whistleblowers in the DOJ and FBI. I suppose they are all fake to you and you'll find any reason to dismiss them.
There are also the other numerous things mentioned above. And so what if hes a former employee? You pretty much have to be to be a "whistleblower". Thats what a "whistleblower" is.
Now either of you care to acknowledge all of the other stuff? you know: shell companies, voice mails, bank documents detailing millions going to Biden accounts...or nah?

[saltydog]

Cool story, bro.
Now have a go at actually answering the question. If they are "amazingly unserious" then you should be easily able to just say "yes".

It seems you did get an answer, you just didn't register or acknowledge it.

"Whistleblower" after "whistleblower" turning up fake, missing, never to have existed, etc, seems to be what Salty was referencing. Color me surprised if you didn't already know that.

The willful ignorance is strong with the Bike/Cheese/Animal triumvirate.

LOLZ. Anything to defend the precious old man.
There are also whistleblowers in the DOJ and FBI. I suppose they are all fake to you and you'll find any reason to dismiss them.
There are also the other numerous things mentioned above. And so what if hes a former employee? You pretty much have to be to be a "whistleblower". Thats what a "whistleblower" is.
Now either of you care to acknowledge all of the other stuff? you know: shell companies, voice mails, bank documents detailing millions going to Biden accounts...or nah?

Keep fighting Paper Tiger!

[CHEEZY17]

Cool story, bro.
Now have a go at actually answering the question. If they are "amazingly unserious" then you should be easily able to just say "yes".

It seems you did get an answer, you just didn't register or acknowledge it.

"Whistleblower" after "whistleblower" turning up fake, missing, never to have existed, etc, seems to be what Salty was referencing. Color me surprised if you didn't already know that.

The willful ignorance is strong with the Bike/Cheese/Animal triumvirate.

LOLZ. Anything to defend the precious old man.
There are also whistleblowers in the DOJ and FBI. I suppose they are all fake to you and you'll find any reason to dismiss them.
There are also the other numerous things mentioned above. And so what if hes a former employee? You pretty much have to be to be a "whistleblower". Thats what a "whistleblower" is.
Now either of you care to acknowledge all of the other stuff? you know: shell companies, voice mails, bank documents detailing millions going to Biden accounts...or nah?

Keep fighting Paper Tiger!

Another dodge. Shocker.

[saltydog]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... reddit.com

[CHEEZY17]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... reddit.com

Oh noes, the guy from Ukraine denies it!!
Well, that settles it.

[dot]

LOLZ. Anything to defend the precious old man.
There are also whistleblowers in the DOJ and FBI. I suppose they are all fake to you and you'll find any reason to dismiss them.
There are also the other numerous things mentioned above. And so what if hes a former employee? You pretty much have to be to be a "whistleblower". Thats what a "whistleblower" is.
Now either of you care to acknowledge all of the other stuff? you know: shell companies, voice mails, bank documents detailing millions going to Biden accounts...or nah?

I know this is pointless since you are, as Salty said, willfully ignorant but:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/18/politics ... index.html
https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-says-gop-whi ... 48168.html
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/1 ... 6-00097740
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... 234738023/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/marjorie- ... re-missing
https://www.axios.com/2023/05/18/house- ... wers-comer

I can go on and on, but clearly anyone with objectivity in mind and not someone determined to be ignorant for the sake of his party can see a pattern emerge. Ranging from fake whistleblowers with fake allegations to likely never existing to begin with, these are the things the Republicans are parading around in their investigation hearings. Not a big leap from this to flat out fabricating allegations of the rest. Besides which, they've already admitted this is their Benghazi for Biden. It's not about truth, it's about tanking poll numbers so their (and your) dear leader can be put back in office. You're fooling no one, Cheezy. Well, except for that guy Ric apparently, dude will believe anything.

[Animal]

what dot is saying is that its sort of like the "russian collusion" stuff.

[saltydog]

LOLZ. Anything to defend the precious old man.
There are also whistleblowers in the DOJ and FBI. I suppose they are all fake to you and you'll find any reason to dismiss them.
There are also the other numerous things mentioned above. And so what if hes a former employee? You pretty much have to be to be a "whistleblower". Thats what a "whistleblower" is.
Now either of you care to acknowledge all of the other stuff? you know: shell companies, voice mails, bank documents detailing millions going to Biden accounts...or nah?

I know this is pointless since you are, as Salty said, willfully ignorant but:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/18/politics ... index.html
https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-says-gop-whi ... 48168.html
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/1 ... 6-00097740
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... 234738023/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/marjorie- ... re-missing
https://www.axios.com/2023/05/18/house- ... wers-comer

I can go on and on, but clearly anyone with objectivity in mind and not someone determined to be ignorant for the sake of his party can see a pattern emerge. Ranging from fake whistleblowers with fake allegations to likely never existing to begin with, these are the things the Republicans are parading around in their investigation hearings. Not a big leap from this to flat out fabricating allegations of the rest. Besides which, they've already admitted this is their Benghazi for Biden. It's not about truth, it's about tanking poll numbers so their (and your) dear leader can be put back in office. You're fooling no one, Cheezy. Well, except for that guy Ric apparently, dude will believe anything.

They got awful quiet about election fraud once they continued to bat 0.000 in the court of law as well.

[Geist]

LOLZ. Anything to defend the precious old man.
There are also whistleblowers in the DOJ and FBI. I suppose they are all fake to you and you'll find any reason to dismiss them.
There are also the other numerous things mentioned above. And so what if hes a former employee? You pretty much have to be to be a "whistleblower". Thats what a "whistleblower" is.
Now either of you care to acknowledge all of the other stuff? you know: shell companies, voice mails, bank documents detailing millions going to Biden accounts...or nah?

I know this is pointless since you are, as Salty said, willfully ignorant but:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/18/politics ... index.html
https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-says-gop-whi ... 48168.html
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/1 ... 6-00097740
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... 234738023/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/marjorie- ... re-missing
https://www.axios.com/2023/05/18/house- ... wers-comer

I can go on and on, but clearly anyone with objectivity in mind and not someone determined to be ignorant for the sake of his party can see a pattern emerge. Ranging from fake whistleblowers with fake allegations to likely never existing to begin with, these are the things the Republicans are parading around in their investigation hearings. Not a big leap from this to flat out fabricating allegations of the rest. Besides which, they've already admitted this is their Benghazi for Biden. It's not about truth, it's about tanking poll numbers so their (and your) dear leader can be put back in office. You're fooling no one, Cheezy. Well, except for that guy Ric apparently, dude will believe anything.

Fuckin' A. There are plenty of reasons to hate the Bidens without believing Facebook feed bullshit.

[dot]

what dot is saying is that its sort of like the "russian collusion" stuff.

Maybe, except for those pesky convictions and plea deals that came from the Russian collusion stuff. Remind me how the investigation into whether that was unfounded / fabricated went.

[saltydog]

what dot is saying is that its sort of like the "russian collusion" stuff.

Maybe, except for those pesky convictions and plea deals that came from the Russian collusion stuff. Remind me how the investigation into whether that was unfounded / fabricated went.

WILLFULLY. IGNORANT.

/conservatism

[Geist]

what dot is saying is that its sort of like the "russian collusion" stuff.

Maybe, except for those pesky convictions and plea deals that came from the Russian collusion stuff. Remind me how the investigation into whether that was unfounded / fabricated went.

I guess the whole Russian collusion thing was a hoax except for that part where the Trump campaign manager colluded with the GRU.

[CHEEZY17]

LOLZ. Anything to defend the precious old man.
There are also whistleblowers in the DOJ and FBI. I suppose they are all fake to you and you'll find any reason to dismiss them.
There are also the other numerous things mentioned above. And so what if hes a former employee? You pretty much have to be to be a "whistleblower". Thats what a "whistleblower" is.
Now either of you care to acknowledge all of the other stuff? you know: shell companies, voice mails, bank documents detailing millions going to Biden accounts...or nah?

I know this is pointless since you are, as Salty said, willfully ignorant but:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/18/politics ... index.html
https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-says-gop-whi ... 48168.html
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/1 ... 6-00097740
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... 234738023/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/marjorie- ... re-missing
https://www.axios.com/2023/05/18/house- ... wers-comer

I can go on and on, but clearly anyone with objectivity in mind and not someone determined to be ignorant for the sake of his party can see a pattern emerge. Ranging from fake whistleblowers with fake allegations to likely never existing to begin with, these are the things the Republicans are parading around in their investigation hearings. Not a big leap from this to flat out fabricating allegations of the rest. Besides which, they've already admitted this is their Benghazi for Biden. It's not about truth, it's about tanking poll numbers so their (and your) dear leader can be put back in office. You're fooling no one, Cheezy. Well, except for that guy Ric apparently, dude will believe anything.

They got awful quiet about election fraud once they continued to bat 0.000 in the court of law as well.

Again, you are talking about whistleblowers as if they are the only thing and they certainly are not. How about addressing the numerous shell companies, actual bank documents, the voicemails, the dubious jobs that pay millions, the texts about 10% to the "big Guy". You focus on one thing and think that eliminates everything else. Now, how about addressing those?

[CHEEZY17]

what dot is saying is that its sort of like the "russian collusion" stuff.

I know what hes trying to do. Hes cherry picking though. He thinks because there might be issues with whistleblowers that the bank documents, shell companies, Hunters pay days for dubious positions, text messages and voicemails somehow magically disappear.

[CHEEZY17]

They got awful quiet about election fraud once they continued to bat 0.000 in the court of law as well.

Nope. Here is a handy dandy interactive guide to all of the election and voter fraud cases in the USA courtesy of RD. Thanks RD, this is always helpful in these situations! 1,235 convictions.

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

[saltydog]

what dot is saying is that its sort of like the "russian collusion" stuff.

I know what hes trying to do. Hes cherry picking though. He thinks because there might be issues with whistleblowers that the bank documents, shell companies, Hunters pay days for dubious positions, text messages and voicemails somehow magically disappear.

Try not to pull any muscles with the effort you're putting in to grasp at straws.

[dot]

Again, you are talking about whistleblowers as if they are the only thing and they certainly are not. How about addressing the numerous shell companies, actual bank documents, the voicemails, the dubious jobs that pay millions, the texts about 10% to the "big Guy". You focus on one thing and think that eliminates everything else. Now, how about addressing those?

It's a consider the source type of argument and it's entirely valid. Your reps are crowing about criminality and whistleblowers and payoff schemes. Yet when it comes to evidence, no charges are brought on Biden corruption because the necessary lack of proof and your whistleblowers disappear into the ether if they even existed. Your shills are desperate to stick this to Biden for no reason other than to Benghazi him, another bad faith investigation designed to win elections not seek the truth. Get back to us when there's some hard proof about what you wish was true. Most people are more concerned with your traitor of a former president, where evidence of actual crime exists on that front.

[CHEEZY17]

Again, you are talking about whistleblowers as if they are the only thing and they certainly are not. How about addressing the numerous shell companies, actual bank documents, the voicemails, the dubious jobs that pay millions, the texts about 10% to the "big Guy". You focus on one thing and think that eliminates everything else. Now, how about addressing those?

It's a consider the source type of argument and it's entirely valid. Your reps are crowing about criminality and whistleblowers and payoff schemes. Yet when it comes to evidence, no charges are brought on Biden corruption because the necessary lack of proof and your whistleblowers disappear into the ether if they even existed. Your shills are desperate to stick this to Biden for no reason other than to Benghazi him, another bad faith investigation designed to win elections not seek the truth. Get back to us when there's some hard proof about what you wish was true. Most people are more concerned with your traitor of a former president, where evidence of actual crime exists on that front.

You understand the numerous shell companies set up to receive payments from foreign entities actually exist, right? You understand that there are literal banking receipts and documents showing these transfers, right? Do you understand why people set up shell companies? You understand that Hunter Biden factually was paid millions of dollars for a job he knew nothing about, right? You understand that at least 9 Biden family members have received money from foreign entities under questionable circumstances, right? You understand that people kicking up 10% to "the Big Guy" in enterprises like this is pretty standard, right? You understand Hunter literally left a shake-down voicemail saying he was with his father right then and there, right?
At some point even hard core Dims have to start putting the pieces together.

[saltydog]

Again, you are talking about whistleblowers as if they are the only thing and they certainly are not. How about addressing the numerous shell companies, actual bank documents, the voicemails, the dubious jobs that pay millions, the texts about 10% to the "big Guy". You focus on one thing and think that eliminates everything else. Now, how about addressing those?

It's a consider the source type of argument and it's entirely valid. Your reps are crowing about criminality and whistleblowers and payoff schemes. Yet when it comes to evidence, no charges are brought on Biden corruption because the necessary lack of proof and your whistleblowers disappear into the ether if they even existed. Your shills are desperate to stick this to Biden for no reason other than to Benghazi him, another bad faith investigation designed to win elections not seek the truth. Get back to us when there's some hard proof about what you wish was true. Most people are more concerned with your traitor of a former president, where evidence of actual crime exists on that front.

You understand the numerous shell companies set up to receive payments from foreign entities actually exist, right? You understand that there are literal banking receipts and documents showing these transfers, right? Do you understand why people set up shell companies? You understand that Hunter Biden factually was paid millions of dollars for a job he knew nothing about, right? You understand that at least 9 Biden family members have received money from foreign entities under questionable circumstances, right? You understand that people kicking up 10% to "the Big Guy" in enterprises like this is pretty standard, right? You understand Hunter literally left a shake-down voicemail saying he was with his father right then and there, right?
At some point even hard core Dims have to start putting the pieces together.

If it's true you have nothing to worry about, right?

If it's not true, the amount of time and energy you've wasted will be laughable.

[dot]

You understand the numerous shell companies set up to receive payments from foreign entities actually exist, right? You understand that there are literal banking receipts and documents showing these transfers, right? Do you understand why people set up shell companies? You understand that Hunter Biden factually was paid millions of dollars for a job he knew nothing about, right? You understand that at least 9 Biden family members have received money from foreign entities under questionable circumstances, right? You understand that people kicking up 10% to "the Big Guy" in enterprises like this is pretty standard, right? You understand Hunter literally left a shake-down voicemail saying he was with his father right then and there, right?
At some point even hard core Dims have to start putting the pieces together.

If it's true you have nothing to worry about, right?

If it's not true, the amount of time and energy you've wasted will be laughable.

Entirely this. Nail Hunter Biden to the wall if you think he did something wrong, I'll be waiting for Kushner and the Trump kids to get prosecuted too. Idgaf, and as far as President Biden, prove it and then a real discussion can happen. For now, I think the traitor in Florida merits more scorn and attention. There's actual proof there, as much as you'd like to ignore it.

[CHEEZY17]

You understand the numerous shell companies set up to receive payments from foreign entities actually exist, right? You understand that there are literal banking receipts and documents showing these transfers, right? Do you understand why people set up shell companies? You understand that Hunter Biden factually was paid millions of dollars for a job he knew nothing about, right? You understand that at least 9 Biden family members have received money from foreign entities under questionable circumstances, right? You understand that people kicking up 10% to "the Big Guy" in enterprises like this is pretty standard, right? You understand Hunter literally left a shake-down voicemail saying he was with his father right then and there, right?
At some point even hard core Dims have to start putting the pieces together.

If it's true you have nothing to worry about, right?

If it's not true, the amount of time and energy you've wasted will be laughable.

Entirely this. Nail Hunter Biden to the wall if you think he did something wrong, I'll be waiting for Kushner and the Trump kids to get prosecuted too. Idgaf, and as far as President Biden, prove it and then a real discussion can happen. For now, I think the traitor in Florida merits more scorn and attention. There's actual proof there, as much as you'd like to ignore it.

If Trump has done illegal things he should be treated like anyone else and I have no problem with that. As far as Kushner and Ivanka go you'd have to ask the Dims we they havent pursued any alleged wrongdoing of theirs more enthusiastically.

[Animal]

i would be willing to bet that Ivanka and Jared actually lost money during those 4 years. I mean they made less than they would have without the white house jobs/interference.

[saltydog]

[saltydog]

i would be willing to bet that Ivanka and Jared actually lost money during those 4 years. I mean they made less than they would have without the white house jobs/interference.

Thoughts on the rumor that Trump actually never intended on winning the Presidency but only used his candidacy as leverage for business concerns?