Solid. Good for her.
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Why? To see exactly why people like you are so accepting of a fascist grifter?
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Because he actually rips the Republican Committee a new asshole but you have your blinders on so why bother, right?
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I watched it. He blatantly lied, because he did in fact want all their money. That's how a conman views his marks. You don't recognize that yet?
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Shhhh..... He's a mark but not really.
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ORANGE MAN BAD!!!
Fucking hacks.
Fucking hacks.
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Stellar rebuttal, full of facts. Top notch.
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As good as your "Nuh uh!".
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Except for the whole you can't prove what's the cause for what you call a Nuh uh. Looks like a recurring theme with you.
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Your entire basis for "nuh uh" is "Republicans lie".
We've already established, and youve admitted, that Dims lie too.
So youre basically saying, since you dont like one side, youre going to die on the hill for the side you do agree with. Just be up front about it.
We've already established, and youve admitted, that Dims lie too.
So youre basically saying, since you dont like one side, youre going to die on the hill for the side you do agree with. Just be up front about it.
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Well. They do.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:09 am Your entire basis for "nuh uh" is "Republicans lie".
We've already established, and youve admitted, that Dims lie too.
So youre basically saying, since you dont like one side, youre going to die on the hill for the side you do agree with. Just be up front about it.
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About this. Specifically about this. That's the key. If one side keeps lying to you about what's happening in this, and the other is not, most logical people would discard the perpetual liars. But as established repeatedly, you don't qualify as such and thus will not do that because your end goal is predetermined rather than follow the facts, so it doesn't matter how many times they lie to you. You won't cut bait, even though you clearly can't land the catch.
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Cheese man's narrow minded beliefs can't stray or else his dream threesome of MTG and Bobo won't come true. Cause they fight for his freedums!dot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:59 pmAbout this. Specifically about this. That's the key. If one side keeps lying to you about what's happening in this, and the other is not, most logical people would discard the perpetual liars. But as established repeatedly, you don't qualify as such and thus will not do that because your end goal is predetermined rather than follow the facts, so it doesn't matter how many times they lie to you. You won't cut bait, even though you clearly can't land the catch.
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The bank documents are not a liedot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:59 pmAbout this. Specifically about this. That's the key. If one side keeps lying to you about what's happening in this, and the other is not, most logical people would discard the perpetual liars. But as established repeatedly, you don't qualify as such and thus will not do that because your end goal is predetermined rather than follow the facts, so it doesn't matter how many times they lie to you. You won't cut bait, even though you clearly can't land the catch.
The sworn testimony from whistleblowers is not a lie
Archer testifying That Shit Show was a huge part of the "Biden Brand" is not a lie
Shit Show coincidentally calling Hunter right when he was on a shakedown call is not a lie
Numerous shell companies are not a lie
Transferred money to Biden family members is not a lie
Hunter being paid huge sums of money by foreign entities for no discernable skills is not a lie
Hunters laptop is not a lie
You can ignore these all you want and claim they are lies but that doesnt it true holmes.
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It has been demonstrated and posted repeatedly here how your whistleblowers are not whistleblowers, Archer in fact said that Joe Biden had nothing to do with Hunter’s business dealings, that you cannot connect Joe Biden trading cash for policy. Just because you regurgitate their lies does not wash them of their authenticity problems. All you’re doing is cementing the fact that you won’t accept fact as truth, instead preferring fiction because that’s the only path to the only acceptable outcome for you. And it’s fine, I get it, you won’t admit it but you hate that you got suckered like everyone else on the Trump train. Truth be told though, that’s your problem, not ours, and you won’t get past it by projecting your boy’s crimes on someone else. So until you come to terms with it yourself, it’s going to remain hung around your neck that you backed a criminal conman that now wants to tear down this country’s democracy to protect himself. Not you, himself. All the projection in the world is not going to make it true.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:42 pm The bank documents are not a lie
The sworn testimony from whistleblowers is not a lie
Archer testifying That Shit Show was a huge part of the "Biden Brand" is not a lie
Shit Show coincidentally calling Hunter right when he was on a shakedown call is not a lie
Numerous shell companies are not a lie
Transferred money to Biden family members is not a lie
Hunter being paid huge sums of money by foreign entities for no discernable skills is not a lie
Hunters laptop is not a lie
You can ignore these all you want and claim they are lies but that doesnt it true holmes.
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lolz. All of the things listed in my post above are real.
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According to you, as you have ZERO credibility after admitting that you're a Trump bootlicker.
The means you're a sucker and will continue the be.
Time to step aside.
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Wow.
Dude, theyre all real and tangible. The shell companies are registered in Delaware. You can look them up. The testimony is real and part of the Congressional record. The subpoenaed bank documents provided that show the history and movement of foreign money to the shell companies are real. The whistleblowers are real (you may not like them but theyre real and have testified under oath and have been corroborated by the NYT), Hunters laptop has been proven to be real, Archer said that Shit Show was a huge part of the "Biden Brand". You can actually see it yourself if you want to. Hunter being paid millions by foreign entities for no discernable skills is real. Damn, at some point you guys have to start admitting there is something there and cant just keep on with the "Nuh uh".
And I'll be happy if Trump cant run again.
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I modified this a little, as CBS apparently was polling likely Republican primary voters, not Republicans per se or Trump supporters (if that's actually different?)The poll finds 71% of Trump’s supporters [they actually meant "Primary Voters" here, not just Trump's supporters-though I guess it's pretty much the same thing] believe what he says it true, despite the fact that he told more than 30,000 lies during his four years in office, according to The Washington Post.
That’s compared to 63% who believe family and friends, 56% who trust conservative media figures, and 42% who have faith in their religious leaders.
(Though the this stuff at the bottom makes it seem like the poll wasn't just of likely primary voters)
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-poll ... 023-08-20/This CBS News/YouGov survey was conducted with a nationally representative sample of 2,061 U.S. adult residents interviewed between August 16-18, 2023, including 538 likely Republican primary voters. The sample was weighted according to gender, age, race, and education based on the U.S. Census American Community Survey and Current Population Survey, as well as past vote. The margin of error is ±3.0 points for the sample overall and ±5.7 points for likely Republican primary voters.
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30,000 lies?
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You're still lying. Your whistleblowers weren't whistleblowers, Archer said Joe Biden had nothing to do with their business dealings, most importantly you still cannot connect Joe Biden to trading policy for cash. What makes me laugh the most, besides the most obvious of you cannot pin any of it on Joe Biden, is recalling your insistence to wait on the transcript for Archer's hearing by the GOP. Star witness, going to blow the case wide open! Turns out, Archer said the opposite of what GOP had been promising he'd say but you wouldn't believe that because a Democrat told you what he said, wait for the transcript. Well guess what, the transcript came out and aforementioned Democrat was right. Archer said Joe Biden had nothing to do with Hunter's business deals. And yet, here you are, repeating the GOP's lies about Archer despite the thing you were waiting for telling you the exact opposite. By all means, keep listing everything like you've made a case that didn't fall apart at every turn. It's gonna be real funny when the next star witness turns out like the Chinese spy arms dealer because your reps don't care where they manufacture their lies from.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:08 am Wow.
Dude, theyre all real and tangible. The shell companies are registered in Delaware. You can look them up. The testimony is real and part of the Congressional record. The subpoenaed bank documents provided that show the history and movement of foreign money to the shell companies are real. The whistleblowers are real (you may not like them but theyre real and have testified under oath and have been corroborated by the NYT), Hunters laptop has been proven to be real, Archer said that Shit Show was a huge part of the "Biden Brand". You can actually see it yourself if you want to. Hunter being paid millions by foreign entities for no discernable skills is real. Damn, at some point you guys have to start admitting there is something there and cant just keep on with the "Nuh uh".
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Holy fuck. YOU are the one that is lying Jeezus H christ. The IRS whistleblowers actually testified under oath yet you claim theyre fake. One is a registered democrat. The shell companies are real and can be looked up. Archer said in the interview with Carlson that Biden was a big part of the "Biden Brand". Its recorded for christs sake and you can watch it. All of these things are verifiable yet you claim they are lies. Youre a fucking clown show blinded by your partisan loyalty.dot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:56 pmYou're still lying. Your whistleblowers weren't whistleblowers, Archer said Joe Biden had nothing to do with their business dealings, most importantly you still cannot connect Joe Biden to trading policy for cash. What makes me laugh the most, besides the most obvious of you cannot pin any of it on Joe Biden, is recalling your insistence to wait on the transcript for Archer's hearing by the GOP. Star witness, going to blow the case wide open! Turns out, Archer said the opposite of what GOP had been promising he'd say but you wouldn't believe that because a Democrat told you what he said, wait for the transcript. Well guess what, the transcript came out and aforementioned Democrat was right. Archer said Joe Biden had nothing to do with Hunter's business deals. And yet, here you are, repeating the GOP's lies about Archer despite the thing you were waiting for telling you the exact opposite. By all means, keep listing everything like you've made a case that didn't fall apart at every turn. It's gonna be real funny when the next star witness turns out like the Chinese spy arms dealer because your reps don't care where they manufacture their lies from.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:08 am Wow.
Dude, theyre all real and tangible. The shell companies are registered in Delaware. You can look them up. The testimony is real and part of the Congressional record. The subpoenaed bank documents provided that show the history and movement of foreign money to the shell companies are real. The whistleblowers are real (you may not like them but theyre real and have testified under oath and have been corroborated by the NYT), Hunters laptop has been proven to be real, Archer said that Shit Show was a huge part of the "Biden Brand". You can actually see it yourself if you want to. Hunter being paid millions by foreign entities for no discernable skills is real. Damn, at some point you guys have to start admitting there is something there and cant just keep on with the "Nuh uh".
And I'll be happy if Trump cant run again.
You may not like what theyre saying but they are real.
The "fake" whistleblowers:
Hunter Biden: Who are the IRS tax whistleblowers?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66252781
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Who are the Hunter Biden IRS whistleblowers? Joseph Ziegler, Gary Shapley testify at investigation hearings
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-bid ... y-shapley/
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Fake whistleblowers refers to the previously trotted out liars too many to list but since you want to focus on these particular guys? Ok. Who was president during their complaints, and thusly whose AG ran the DOJ? Hint, it was not Joe Biden.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:25 pm Holy fuck. YOU are the one that is lying Jeezus H christ. The IRS whistleblowers actually testified under oath yet you claim theyre fake. One is a registered democrat. The shell companies are real and can be looked up. Archer said in the interview with Carlson that Biden was a big part of the "Biden Brand". Its recorded for christs sake and you can watch it. All of these things are verifiable yet you claim they are lies. Youre a fucking clown show blinded by your partisan loyalty.
You may not like what theyre saying but they are real.
Still can't tie a payment to Joe Biden for policy. So sad and pathetic for you to keep harping on a lie.
Archer's hearing, he said Joe Biden had nothing to do with Hunter's business dealings. I know you have to keep phrasing it the way you are because you know that if you acknowledge it, even you can't keep using the talking point. Doesn't change the fact that Joe Biden according to your own star witness did not do what you so desperately want him to have done.
Enjoy your self made clown show, buddy. If you're gonna come at this, it's best to be armed with facts because relying on your reps' lies has gotten you nowhere.