The vaccines have failed (Was: The vaccines are failing)

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Re: The vaccines have failed (Was: The vaccines are failing)

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Animal wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:28 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:13 pm I'm not anti vax. I got the original and 1 boost. The question is how many boosters is enough? When does it end, if at all. At this point covid booster shots seem completely useless if you are a healthy person.
The last I heard around 95% of the US population has either had covid, had a vaccine or both. So, the virus is pretty much either gone or mutated to the point now where it is extremely minor.

So, yeah, the point is sort of lost unless one of the earlier strains kicks back in. Fortunately, despite Biker and Necro and the other anti-vaxxers, the next time some virus like this comes along, we have the road map to quickly develop and distribute a vaccine and it can be done even faster. This should be one of Trump's finest accomplishments.
You're still stupid and including me. Sounds about right.
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But its free!!!

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Biker wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:44 pm But its free!!!

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Explain Reggie Lewis.
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saltydog wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:53 pm Explain Reggie Lewis.
I dont need to, as the CDC and Pharma has already acknowledged an increase risk of heart inflammation to younger recipients. Take your straw man elsewhere, bucko
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Biker wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:04 pm
saltydog wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:53 pm Explain Reggie Lewis.
I dont need to, as the CDC and Pharma has already acknowledged an increase risk of heart inflammation to younger recipients. Take your straw man elsewhere, bucko
My cousin died at 16 due to an undiagnosed heart condition in 2007.

Nothing to do with COVID or vaccines. Go take a deep breath in a bucket of ammonia. It might help.
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saltydog wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:15 pm
Biker wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:04 pm
saltydog wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:53 pm Explain Reggie Lewis.
I dont need to, as the CDC and Pharma has already acknowledged an increase risk of heart inflammation to younger recipients. Take your straw man elsewhere, bucko
My cousin died at 16 due to an undiagnosed heart condition in 2007.

Nothing to do with COVID or vaccines. Go take a deep breath in a bucket of ammonia. It might help.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/c ... ditis.html

Dumbfuck
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Biker wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:41 pm
saltydog wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:15 pm
Biker wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:04 pm
saltydog wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:53 pm Explain Reggie Lewis.
I dont need to, as the CDC and Pharma has already acknowledged an increase risk of heart inflammation to younger recipients. Take your straw man elsewhere, bucko
My cousin died at 16 due to an undiagnosed heart condition in 2007.

Nothing to do with COVID or vaccines. Go take a deep breath in a bucket of ammonia. It might help.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/c ... ditis.html

Dumbfuck
Did you have to get vaccinated as a child? As most do who grew up here?

Where's your outrage about that?
The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?
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saltydog wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:47 pm
Biker wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:41 pm
saltydog wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:15 pm
Biker wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:04 pm
saltydog wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:53 pm Explain Reggie Lewis.
I dont need to, as the CDC and Pharma has already acknowledged an increase risk of heart inflammation to younger recipients. Take your straw man elsewhere, bucko
My cousin died at 16 due to an undiagnosed heart condition in 2007.

Nothing to do with COVID or vaccines. Go take a deep breath in a bucket of ammonia. It might help.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/c ... ditis.html

Dumbfuck
Did you have to get vaccinated as a child? As most do who grew up here?

Where's your outrage about that?
In what way are childhood vaccines comparable to mRNA shots?
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Cassandros wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:54 am
saltydog wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:47 pm
Biker wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:41 pm
saltydog wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:15 pm
Biker wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:04 pm
saltydog wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:53 pm Explain Reggie Lewis.
I dont need to, as the CDC and Pharma has already acknowledged an increase risk of heart inflammation to younger recipients. Take your straw man elsewhere, bucko
My cousin died at 16 due to an undiagnosed heart condition in 2007.

Nothing to do with COVID or vaccines. Go take a deep breath in a bucket of ammonia. It might help.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/c ... ditis.html

Dumbfuck
Did you have to get vaccinated as a child? As most do who grew up here?

Where's your outrage about that?
In what way are childhood vaccines comparable to mRNA shots?
Biker is anti-vax. So he should be pissed.
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saltydog wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:00 am
Cassandros wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:54 am
saltydog wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:47 pm
Biker wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:41 pm
saltydog wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:15 pm
Biker wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:04 pm

I dont need to, as the CDC and Pharma has already acknowledged an increase risk of heart inflammation to younger recipients. Take your straw man elsewhere, bucko
My cousin died at 16 due to an undiagnosed heart condition in 2007.

Nothing to do with COVID or vaccines. Go take a deep breath in a bucket of ammonia. It might help.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/c ... ditis.html

Dumbfuck
Did you have to get vaccinated as a child? As most do who grew up here?

Where's your outrage about that?
In what way are childhood vaccines comparable to mRNA shots?
Biker is anti-vax. So he should be pissed.
I think your label is a lie.
But, I'll give you a chance...
Please link where has he spoken out against childhood vaccines.
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Cassandros wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:28 am
saltydog wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:00 am
Cassandros wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:54 am
saltydog wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:47 pm
Biker wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:41 pm
saltydog wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:15 pm

My cousin died at 16 due to an undiagnosed heart condition in 2007.

Nothing to do with COVID or vaccines. Go take a deep breath in a bucket of ammonia. It might help.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/c ... ditis.html

Dumbfuck
Did you have to get vaccinated as a child? As most do who grew up here?

Where's your outrage about that?
In what way are childhood vaccines comparable to mRNA shots?
Biker is anti-vax. So he should be pissed.
I think your label is a lie.
But, I'll give you a chance...
Please link where has he spoken out against childhood vaccines.
He's a big boy, he can defend himself. Maybe. Selectively.

Alright, likely not.
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Re: The vaccines have failed (Was: The vaccines are failing)

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saltydog wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:33 am
Cassandros wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:28 am
saltydog wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:00 am
Cassandros wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:54 am
saltydog wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:47 pm
Biker wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:41 pm

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/c ... ditis.html

Dumbfuck
Did you have to get vaccinated as a child? As most do who grew up here?

Where's your outrage about that?
In what way are childhood vaccines comparable to mRNA shots?
Biker is anti-vax. So he should be pissed.
I think your label is a lie.
But, I'll give you a chance...
Please link where has he spoken out against childhood vaccines.
He's a big boy, he can defend himself. Maybe. Selectively.

Alright, likely not.
So, you lied...

And failed to make a point.

Good job.
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Cassandros wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:56 am
saltydog wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:33 am
Cassandros wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:28 am
saltydog wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:00 am
Cassandros wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:54 am
saltydog wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:47 pm

Did you have to get vaccinated as a child? As most do who grew up here?

Where's your outrage about that?
In what way are childhood vaccines comparable to mRNA shots?
Biker is anti-vax. So he should be pissed.
I think your label is a lie.
But, I'll give you a chance...
Please link where has he spoken out against childhood vaccines.
He's a big boy, he can defend himself. Maybe. Selectively.

Alright, likely not.


So, you lied...

And failed to make a point.

Good job.

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you have to be a special kind of stupid to want to be right about something you were wrong about this badly. No one.....No one thought the vaccine would prevent transmission anymore than anyone thinks that if you get a flu vaccine you can't spread the flu if you still get it. And literally everyone knows that if you get a flu vaccine there is a chance you might still get the flu.
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Tell me you dont understand the definition of vaccine without telling me you dont understand the definition of vaccine

Go rake a forest
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Biker wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:31 pm Tell me you dont understand the definition of vaccine without telling me you dont understand the definition of vaccine

Go rake a forest
my god.

I am going to get a flu vaccine in a few weeks. and, guess what? I know i might still get the flu. Guess what else? I know if I get the flu I will still be contagious to other people.

I have the ability to understand all of that.
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Animal wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:35 pm
Biker wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:31 pm Tell me you dont understand the definition of vaccine without telling me you dont understand the definition of vaccine

Go rake a forest
my god.

I am going to get a flu vaccine in a few weeks. and, guess what? I know i might still get the flu. Guess what else? I know if I get the flu I will still be contagious to other people.

I have the ability to understand all of that.
Thats because there are many different flu strains and only 10 are in the annual vaccine. You wont get any of those 10 strains.

This COVID shit cannot say the same, for its not a real vaccine. At best, its a therapeutic that has a limited effective period. But hey, its free, right?
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Biker wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:38 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:35 pm
Biker wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:31 pm Tell me you dont understand the definition of vaccine without telling me you dont understand the definition of vaccine

Go rake a forest
my god.

I am going to get a flu vaccine in a few weeks. and, guess what? I know i might still get the flu. Guess what else? I know if I get the flu I will still be contagious to other people.

I have the ability to understand all of that.
Thats because there are many different flu strains and only 10 are in the annual vaccine. You wont get any of those 10 strains.

This COVID shit cannot say the same, for its not a real vaccine. At best, its a therapeutic that has a limited effective period. But hey, its free, right?
the reason I am waiting a few weeks to get my flu vaccine is because of its limited effective period and I want the antibodies to still be strong when flu season gets in full gear. because i understand vaccines.
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Animal wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:41 pm
Biker wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:38 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:35 pm
Biker wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:31 pm Tell me you dont understand the definition of vaccine without telling me you dont understand the definition of vaccine

Go rake a forest
my god.

I am going to get a flu vaccine in a few weeks. and, guess what? I know i might still get the flu. Guess what else? I know if I get the flu I will still be contagious to other people.

I have the ability to understand all of that.
Thats because there are many different flu strains and only 10 are in the annual vaccine. You wont get any of those 10 strains.

This COVID shit cannot say the same, for its not a real vaccine. At best, its a therapeutic that has a limited effective period. But hey, its free, right?
the reason I am waiting a few weeks to get my flu vaccine is because of its limited effective period and I want the antibodies to still be strong when flu season gets in full gear. because i understand vaccines.
Then its not a vaccine

How many small pox boosters have you had? Or Mumps and measles?
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Biker wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:51 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:41 pm
Biker wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:38 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:35 pm
Biker wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:31 pm Tell me you dont understand the definition of vaccine without telling me you dont understand the definition of vaccine

Go rake a forest
my god.

I am going to get a flu vaccine in a few weeks. and, guess what? I know i might still get the flu. Guess what else? I know if I get the flu I will still be contagious to other people.

I have the ability to understand all of that.
Thats because there are many different flu strains and only 10 are in the annual vaccine. You wont get any of those 10 strains.

This COVID shit cannot say the same, for its not a real vaccine. At best, its a therapeutic that has a limited effective period. But hey, its free, right?
the reason I am waiting a few weeks to get my flu vaccine is because of its limited effective period and I want the antibodies to still be strong when flu season gets in full gear. because i understand vaccines.
Then its not a vaccine

How many small pox boosters have you had? Or Mumps and measles?
call them whatever makes you feel better. you know its not about the name, though.
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Animal wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:10 pm
Biker wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:51 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:41 pm
Biker wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:38 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:35 pm
Biker wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:31 pm Tell me you dont understand the definition of vaccine without telling me you dont understand the definition of vaccine

Go rake a forest
my god.

I am going to get a flu vaccine in a few weeks. and, guess what? I know i might still get the flu. Guess what else? I know if I get the flu I will still be contagious to other people.

I have the ability to understand all of that.
Thats because there are many different flu strains and only 10 are in the annual vaccine. You wont get any of those 10 strains.

This COVID shit cannot say the same, for its not a real vaccine. At best, its a therapeutic that has a limited effective period. But hey, its free, right?
the reason I am waiting a few weeks to get my flu vaccine is because of its limited effective period and I want the antibodies to still be strong when flu season gets in full gear. because i understand vaccines.
Then its not a vaccine

How many small pox boosters have you had? Or Mumps and measles?
call them whatever makes you feel better. you know its not about the name, though.
Language matters, especially when it comes to health
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well, technically, a "vaccine" is only something that boosts the bodies immune system against disease or some pathogen. But you think it must be a one time 100% effective 100% of the time shield. because with that definition you can think you were right.
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BOOST BOOST BOOST!!! Lets fucking go!!!

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