Dodgin' Dot doesnt understand anything beyond what Democrat Underground and The Huffington Post have told him.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 5:05 pmI pay contractors, subcontractors and material suppliers every single day. and have all of my life. Lots of subcontractors want to be paid while they are still on the job finishing up. Most want their money the moment they are finished and they want it by Zelle or Cash App or bank transfer. Immediately. Before you get a chance to review their work or before they even complete a punch list. They consider their payment late after that split second in time. In my position (like in Trump's position) you have to complete ignore their ideas on when payment is due or late and just hold them to their agreed work performance and pay them when its finished. If they refuse to do something or don't complete everything you deduct what they did not do and you deal with the repercussions. Some will file liens, some will file small claims and most will fix the problems and get paid when they do. But, until you have dealt with this crowd of people you can literally not conceive of the levels of bitching and complaining when it comes to getting paid.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:16 pmI'm just amazed that the Trump golf courses, hotels and other businesses around the world continue to operate with no bills getting paid. I mean, its really quite the magical feat.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:23 pmPoor dumb dot has no idea what its like to pay contractors and subcontractors. Maybe one day he will grow up and do some real world adult stuff.dot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:51 pmhttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... /85297274/
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0T214P/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/hu ... ls-n589261
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/06 ... cades.html
https://newrepublic.com/post/173722/don ... king-check
So you're set on demonstrating the disingenuous part of your shtick for this subject then. Dodge noted. Feel free to announce which aspect you'll be showcasing when you dodge the point next time, I'm sure it'll be fascinating. Meanwhile, keep defending a criminal conman who doesn't pay his bills and would throw our allies under the bus for hostile invasion. Disingenuous intellectually dishonest duped partisan hack mark.
Even that link that Dumb Dot posted says that "on xxxx project 2,584 subcontractors and suppliers were either not paid or paid late". The key word is "paid late". To me, that means instead of someone handing them a check while they loaded their tools back into their truck, they got a check a few days later after someone had a chance to inspect their work and determine if they were complete. Typically you pay a sub around 30 to 45 days after the work is complete. Which lights them on fire.
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Because only a duped partisan hack would see a lifetime of not paying his bills and think, but wHaT aBoUt nOw? All so you can ignore and brush aside that a criminal conman will throw our NATO allies under the bus for hostile invasion because his addled brain thinks they aren't "paying their bills." Disingenuous intellectually dishonest duped partisan hack mark.
Pay or not pay? Tell us all, do you regularly stiff your workers for the work they do and then threaten to sue them for daring to get paid for their work? Because that's the case here, so be careful what you're defending before you unintentionally reveal some shady business practices of your own, mental midget.
Animal wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 5:05 pm I pay contractors, subcontractors and material suppliers every single day. and have all of my life. Lots of subcontractors want to be paid while they are still on the job finishing up. Most want their money the moment they are finished and they want it by Zelle or Cash App or bank transfer. Immediately. Before you get a chance to review their work or before they even complete a punch list. They consider their payment late after that split second in time. In my position (like in Trump's position) you have to complete ignore their ideas on when payment is due or late and just hold them to their agreed work performance and pay them when its finished. If they refuse to do something or don't complete everything you deduct what they did not do and you deal with the repercussions. Some will file liens, some will file small claims and most will fix the problems and get paid when they do. But, until you have dealt with this crowd of people you can literally not conceive of the levels of bitching and complaining when it comes to getting paid.
Even that link that Dumb Dot posted says that "on xxxx project 2,584 subcontractors and suppliers were either not paid or paid late". The key word is "paid late". To me, that means instead of someone handing them a check while they loaded their tools back into their truck, they got a check a few days later after someone had a chance to inspect their work and determine if they were complete. Typically you pay a sub around 30 to 45 days after the work is complete. Which lights them on fire.
It always amazes me the lengths you duped marks will go to defend a criminal conman. You're willing to equate paying in full a day or two late to never paying at all.During the Atlantic City casino boom in the 1980s, Philadelphia cabinet-builder Edward Friel Jr. landed a $400,000 contract to build the bases for slot machines, registration desks, bars and other cabinets at Harrah's at Trump Plaza.
The family cabinetry business, founded in the 1940s by Edward’s father, finished its work in 1984 and submitted its final bill to the general contractor for the Trump Organization, the resort’s builder.
Edward’s son, Paul, who was the firm’s accountant, still remembers the amount of that bill more than 30 years later: $83,600. The reason: the money never came. “That began the demise of the Edward J. Friel Company… which has been around since my grandfather,” he said.
Donald Trump often portrays himself as a savior of the working class who will "protect your job." But a USA TODAY NETWORK analysis found he has been involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits over the past three decades — and a large number of those involve ordinary Americans, like the Friels, who say Trump or his companies have refused to pay them.
At least 60 lawsuits, along with hundreds of liens, judgments, and other government filings reviewed by the USA TODAY NETWORK, document people who have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay them for their work. Among them: a dishwasher in Florida. A glass company in New Jersey. A carpet company. A plumber. Painters. Forty-eight waiters. Dozens of bartenders and other hourly workers at his resorts and clubs, coast to coast. Real estate brokers who sold his properties. And, ironically, several law firms that once represented him in these suits and others.
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So, are the bills in the Trump organization getting paid, or nah? How are all of those businesses still operational?
Uh oh! Another question that will cause Dodgin' Dot to dodge away!
Uh oh! Another question that will cause Dodgin' Dot to dodge away!
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poor dumb dot is confused. he doesn't know the difference in a bill that's paid late and a bill that isn't paid at all. now if he would just revise his post to only include the bills that were never paid, we would get the actual damages he is trying to claim. but his cited references only referenced those combined.
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It's amusing seeing the gymnastics y'all have to perform in order to ignore proven history so you can defend the chronically delinquent criminal conman who doesn't pay his workers inviting our allies to be invaded for behavior such as his. For the partisan duped mark hack and mental midget, square the intentional intellectual dishonesty from both of you with Trump's flagrant stiffing his workers of their pay. Maybe then y'all will realize you dodged every bit of the relevant information, making yet another confession masked as an accusation from the both of you.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:49 pm poor dumb dot is confused. he doesn't know the difference in a bill that's paid late and a bill that isn't paid at all. now if he would just revise his post to only include the bills that were never paid, we would get the actual damages he is trying to claim. but his cited references only referenced those combined.
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^ blah blah blah blah.......blah.dot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:29 pmIt's amusing seeing the gymnastics y'all have to perform in order to ignore proven history so you can defend the chronically delinquent criminal conman who doesn't pay his workers inviting our allies to be invaded for behavior such as his. For the partisan duped mark hack and mental midget, square the intentional intellectual dishonesty from both of you with Trump's flagrant stiffing his workers of their pay. Maybe then y'all will realize you dodged every bit of the relevant information, making yet another confession masked as an accusation from the both of you.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:49 pm poor dumb dot is confused. he doesn't know the difference in a bill that's paid late and a bill that isn't paid at all. now if he would just revise his post to only include the bills that were never paid, we would get the actual damages he is trying to claim. but his cited references only referenced those combined.
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There are no gymnastics required by me as it is completely obvious that the "bills are getting paid" in the Trump organization. The evidence of this is the fact that all of the businesses that are operating throughout the world are operational and doing the things they do with no apparent problems or hiccups. If the bills werent getting paid none of that would be happening and all of the estimated 20,000 employees would quit. It seems like you dont understand how any of that works.dot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:29 pmIt's amusing seeing the gymnastics y'all have to perform in order to ignore proven history so you can defend the chronically delinquent criminal conman who doesn't pay his workers inviting our allies to be invaded for behavior such as his. For the partisan duped mark hack and mental midget, square the intentional intellectual dishonesty from both of you with Trump's flagrant stiffing his workers of their pay. Maybe then y'all will realize you dodged every bit of the relevant information, making yet another confession masked as an accusation from the both of you.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:49 pm poor dumb dot is confused. he doesn't know the difference in a bill that's paid late and a bill that isn't paid at all. now if he would just revise his post to only include the bills that were never paid, we would get the actual damages he is trying to claim. but his cited references only referenced those combined.
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its funny how the democratic brain works. they are all about the working man and jobs and minimum wage, etc. yet when it comes to leaders they prefer a career politician that has never signed a paycheck and want to destroy a man that has employed thousands and thousands of people over his life time. and not just lawyers and accountant jobs, but valets, and maids, and groundskeepers and bell hops, waiters, cooks, etc.
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So just ignore all the proven history and actions of the chronically delinquent criminal conman stiffing the people who work for him who will, as a politician, encourage our allies to be invaded for the very thing he does in his corrupt businesses. Intellectually dishonest disingenuous partisan hack.
Nowhere in this mental diarrhea of a post did you take note of the presented cases before you of the conman that does not pay the people who work for him, who would rather sue them into oblivion for just wanting their just earnings. Ignoring them because they're inconvenient for the picture you want to paint of him doesn't make them go away, it just makes you look weak for being unable to defend his reprehensible behavior. I also love that you brought in lawyers who worked for him. cause you don't have to believe me. Believe his now disgraced lawyer.Animal wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 2:43 am its funny how the democratic brain works. they are all about the working man and jobs and minimum wage, etc. yet when it comes to leaders they prefer a career politician that has never signed a paycheck and want to destroy a man that has employed thousands and thousands of people over his life time. and not just lawyers and accountant jobs, but valets, and maids, and groundskeepers and bell hops, waiters, cooks, etc.
https://newrepublic.com/post/178874/rud ... owes-money
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You mean like how youre willfully ignoring how the bills are being paid? How do all of the businesses continue to operate around the world?dot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:14 pmSo just ignore all the proven history and actions of the chronically delinquent criminal conman stiffing the people who work for him who will, as a politician, encourage our allies to be invaded for the very thing he does in his corrupt businesses. Intellectually dishonest disingenuous partisan hack.
Nowhere in this mental diarrhea of a post did you take note of the presented cases before you of the conman that does not pay the people who work for him, who would rather sue them into oblivion for just wanting their just earnings. Ignoring them because they're inconvenient for the picture you want to paint of him doesn't make them go away, it just makes you look weak for being unable to defend his reprehensible behavior. I also love that you brought in lawyers who worked for him. cause you don't have to believe me. Believe his now disgraced lawyer.Animal wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 2:43 am its funny how the democratic brain works. they are all about the working man and jobs and minimum wage, etc. yet when it comes to leaders they prefer a career politician that has never signed a paycheck and want to destroy a man that has employed thousands and thousands of people over his life time. and not just lawyers and accountant jobs, but valets, and maids, and groundskeepers and bell hops, waiters, cooks, etc.
https://newrepublic.com/post/178874/rud ... owes-money
Hint, you're going to have to read. I know you hate doing that when you're proven wrong but that's what people do when acting in good faith, mental midget. Try it, or stay a Trump mark. Your choice.
How are they operating if the bills arent getting paid? Why does Trump still have employees if they never get paid? Have you ever thought to think beyond what your bubble tells you?
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Disingenuous intellectually dishonest partisan hack can't admit established history of his criminal idol and thus constructs strawman to argue against so hack never has to address actual facts. Repeated dodging noted, enjoy defending the guy who will invite invasion of our allies.
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Just like you are diminishing and ignoring how the bills are getting paid all over the worlddot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:24 pmDisingenuous intellectually dishonest partisan hack can't admit established history of his criminal idol and thus constructs strawman to argue against so hack never has to address actual facts. Repeated dodging noted, enjoy defending the guy who will invite invasion of our allies.
All of those paid bills and employee paychecks arent "established history" in your eyes?
No dodging needed, bud. Some folks didnt get paid. Thats factual and undeniable. Whats also undeniable and factual is that many more bills ARE getting paid. Right now. As we speak. The Trump organization currently operates all over the world with an estimated 20,000 employees yet somehow you think the bills "dont get paid". Try to have your baby brain think logically just once.
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^ there's the problem. Poor dumb dot has no idea what any of this stuff means.CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:21 pmHave you ever thought to thinkdot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:14 pmSo just ignore all the proven history and actions of the chronically delinquent criminal conman stiffing the people who work for him who will, as a politician, encourage our allies to be invaded for the very thing he does in his corrupt businesses. Intellectually dishonest disingenuous partisan hack.
Nowhere in this mental diarrhea of a post did you take note of the presented cases before you of the conman that does not pay the people who work for him, who would rather sue them into oblivion for just wanting their just earnings. Ignoring them because they're inconvenient for the picture you want to paint of him doesn't make them go away, it just makes you look weak for being unable to defend his reprehensible behavior. I also love that you brought in lawyers who worked for him. cause you don't have to believe me. Believe his now disgraced lawyer.Animal wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 2:43 am its funny how the democratic brain works. they are all about the working man and jobs and minimum wage, etc. yet when it comes to leaders they prefer a career politician that has never signed a paycheck and want to destroy a man that has employed thousands and thousands of people over his life time. and not just lawyers and accountant jobs, but valets, and maids, and groundskeepers and bell hops, waiters, cooks, etc.
https://newrepublic.com/post/178874/rud ... owes-money
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Repeating your previous dodge, disingenuous intellectually dishonest partisan hack. Nothing new from you, coward.
Someone couldn't do the reading again. Poor mental midget mark.
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Nope not a dodge. Here is me acknowledging it yet again: Some folks didnt get paid. Thats factual and undeniable. It happened.
The actual dodge here is YOU not wanting to admit the established payment history of the Trump Organization evidenced by continued operations throughout the world and the continued employment of about 20,000 people. Do those things happen Dodgin' Dot if the bills arent getting paid?
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poor little dumb dot likes to take one off events and exaggerate them as if they are occurring on a pandemic level.
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And yet you're gonna to deny it anyway in 3, 2, 1...
See, the dodge is you pretending the folks not being paid as a matter of practice by your criminal idol is just erased and doesn't matter. His practices are key to the point which is why you're desperate to ignore it. He did it, you don't get to wash it away because it's inconvenient for your narrative of the moment. You chose this to defend, you have to take the facts as they are. Facts are he swindles and cons and stiff people of their justified money and earnings. Hack does hack things.
Mental midget doesn't understand what "one off" means, a recurring failing of his since he also doesn't know what fraud is.
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Oh man, you are really struggling here, bud.dot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:05 pmAnd yet you're gonna to deny it anyway in 3, 2, 1...
See, the dodge is you pretending the folks not being paid as a matter of practice by your criminal idol is just erased and doesn't matter. His practices are key to the point which is why you're desperate to ignore it. He did it, you don't get to wash it away because it's inconvenient for your narrative of the moment. You chose this to defend, you have to take the facts as they are. Facts are he swindles and cons and stiff people of their justified money and earnings. Hack does hack things.
Mental midget doesn't understand what "one off" means, a recurring failing of his since he also doesn't know what fraud is.
It takes a special kind of retard to literally quote my post acknowledging Trumps bankruptcies and that some folks didnt get paid and then claim that I'm somehow dodging. Here, I'll try to dumb it down for you further but honestly I'm not sure if I can take it down far enough for you:
Some folks didnt get paid. Bankruptcies also happened. Those things are public record and cannot be denied. Those things are factual. They happened. I know they happened. The world knows they happened.
Now, here is the actual dodge compliments of YOU: The Trump organization operates on a world wide level with an estimated 20,000 employees. If the bills were not getting paid "as a matter of practice" as you claim, things would have shut down years ago and all of the employees would have quit. Thats kind of how things work; if you dont pay your bills supplies stop showing up, utilities get shut off, employees quit etc. etc. etc. Oddly enough, those businesses are still fully operational and have been for quite some time. Why do you think that is? The answer you dont want to admit is that, wait for it...wait for it...the bills are getting paid.
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Wrong yet again, the dodge is you pretending the folks not being paid as a matter of practice by your criminal idol is just erased and doesn't matter. That's literally what you're doing in order to overlook him stiffing people as SOP so you can pretend that because his businesses are still in operation that means they don't matter.
And you cheer that guy that did that maliciously to now invite our allies to be invaded based on the same behavior with drastically different repercussions. If Trump makes people go out of business because he swindles them out of their just wages, as reprehensible as that is, it is a far cry from inviting a hostile military force led by a dictator to invade a democracy based ally where people will be killed. But at this point, it's not surprising this has to be explained to a delusional disingenuous intellectually dishonest functionally retarded duped partisan hack mark.
See? Hack does hack things.
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Strugglin Dot is struggling.
The bills are getting paid, retard.
The bills are getting paid, retard.
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Yes the evidence is all around all of us in the form of a world wide operation with an estimated 20,000 employees that continues to be fully and consistently operational year after year. Nice job kicking your own ass yet again.
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I'm not the one that keeps demonstrating over and over how you're doing exactly what I said you'd do in ignoring Trump's habitual stiffing people of their just earnings. All so you can defend your criminal idol who would invite our allies to be invaded by a hostile power because of practices he himself does. Should we add hypocrite officially to your long list of labels you've accumulated since accusations became confessions with you, hack?
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dot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:29 pmI'm not the one that keeps demonstrating over and over how you're doing exactly what I said you'd do in ignoring Trump's habitual stiffing people of their just earnings. All so you can defend your criminal idol who would invite our allies to be invaded by a hostile power because of practices he himself does. Should we add hypocrite officially to your long list of labels you've accumulated since accusations became confessions with you, hack?
In the background we have a depiction of every bill that the Trump organization has ever paid. We will call this a "Mountain".
In the foreground we have a depiction of every bill the Trump organization has not paid. We will call this a "mole hill".