Policies enacted by Executive Action

[Who]

Are they reversible by the next administration?

For example the student loan forgiveness put forth by 46.
Can the next president reverse that decision and reinstate the student loans?

[CHEEZY17]

The first thing Shit Show did when he entered the office was dismantle many of Trumps executive orders; many of which pertained to the border which directly led to the border crisis we are experiencing right now and will suffer the consequences of for years if not decades more.

Executive orders are not "laws" even though they often carry the weight of a law so the next POTUS can and often does wipe them away.

Your boy, that claims Trump wants to be a dictator, has already defied the Supreme Court in regards to student loans which told him in no uncertain terms that he cant just unilaterally forgive them. Your boy is ignoring the highest court in our country and trying to govern by fiat and bribery.

[CentralTexasCrude]

The first thing Shit Show did when he entered the office was dismantle many of Trumps executive orders; many of which pertained to the border which directly led to the border crisis we are experiencing right now and will suffer the consequences of for years if not decades more.

Executive orders are not "laws" even though they often carry the weight of a law so the next POTUS can and often does wipe them away.

Your boy, that claims Trump wants to be a dictator, has already defied the Supreme Court in regards to student loans which told him in no uncertain terms that he cant just unilaterally forgive them. Your boy is ignoring the highest court in our country and trying to govern by fiat and bribery.

Now see, that's not true. Trump declared after winning in 2016 that he would start signing executive orders from time zero on taking office and he did. Pretty much buried Obama's 8 years in office to the trash heap when Barry was working around Congress

[Who]

The first thing Shit Show did when he entered the office was dismantle many of Trumps executive orders; many of which pertained to the border which directly led to the border crisis we are experiencing right now and will suffer the consequences of for years if not decades more.

Executive orders are not "laws" even though they often carry the weight of a law so the next POTUS can and often does wipe them away.

Your boy, that claims Trump wants to be a dictator, has already defied the Supreme Court in regards to student loans which told him in no uncertain terms that he cant just unilaterally forgive them. Your boy is ignoring the highest court in our country and trying to govern by fiat and bribery.

So the people that had their student loans forgiven will have to start paying them again if 45 wins?

That might piss a few people off.

[Antknot]

The first thing Shit Show did when he entered the office was dismantle many of Trumps executive orders; many of which pertained to the border which directly led to the border crisis we are experiencing right now and will suffer the consequences of for years if not decades more.

Executive orders are not "laws" even though they often carry the weight of a law so the next POTUS can and often does wipe them away.

Your boy, that claims Trump wants to be a dictator, has already defied the Supreme Court in regards to student loans which told him in no uncertain terms that he cant just unilaterally forgive them. Your boy is ignoring the highest court in our country and trying to govern by fiat and bribery.

So the people that had their student loans forgiven will have to start paying them again if 45 wins?

That might piss a few people off.

The Supreme Court shot down the loan forgiveness. Trump doesn’t have to do anything.

[CHEEZY17]

The first thing Shit Show did when he entered the office was dismantle many of Trumps executive orders; many of which pertained to the border which directly led to the border crisis we are experiencing right now and will suffer the consequences of for years if not decades more.

Executive orders are not "laws" even though they often carry the weight of a law so the next POTUS can and often does wipe them away.

Your boy, that claims Trump wants to be a dictator, has already defied the Supreme Court in regards to student loans which told him in no uncertain terms that he cant just unilaterally forgive them. Your boy is ignoring the highest court in our country and trying to govern by fiat and bribery.

Now see, that's not true. Trump declared after winning in 2016 that he would start signing executive orders from time zero on taking office and he did. Pretty much buried Obama's 8 years in office to the trash heap when Barry was working around Congress

There isnt anything in my post that is untrue or innacurate.

[CHEEZY17]

The first thing Shit Show did when he entered the office was dismantle many of Trumps executive orders; many of which pertained to the border which directly led to the border crisis we are experiencing right now and will suffer the consequences of for years if not decades more.

Executive orders are not "laws" even though they often carry the weight of a law so the next POTUS can and often does wipe them away.

Your boy, that claims Trump wants to be a dictator, has already defied the Supreme Court in regards to student loans which told him in no uncertain terms that he cant just unilaterally forgive them. Your boy is ignoring the highest court in our country and trying to govern by fiat and bribery.

So the people that had their student loans forgiven will have to start paying them again if 45 wins?

That might piss a few people off.

That whole situation is unclear. As of now Shit Show has tried to circumvent the Supreme Court yet again in his effort to buy votes. Theoretically Trump wouldnt have to do anything because it shouldnt be happening in the first place.
As far as pissing people off...I think more people are pissed off that people who willingly agreed to these loans are getting a freebie on the backs of American taxpayers; most of whom are just regular working folks.

[Animal]

The first thing Shit Show did when he entered the office was dismantle many of Trumps executive orders; many of which pertained to the border which directly led to the border crisis we are experiencing right now and will suffer the consequences of for years if not decades more.

Executive orders are not "laws" even though they often carry the weight of a law so the next POTUS can and often does wipe them away.

Your boy, that claims Trump wants to be a dictator, has already defied the Supreme Court in regards to student loans which told him in no uncertain terms that he cant just unilaterally forgive them. Your boy is ignoring the highest court in our country and trying to govern by fiat and bribery.

So the people that had their student loans forgiven will have to start paying them again if 45 wins?

That might piss a few people off.

The Supreme Court shot down the loan forgiveness. Trump doesn’t have to do anything.

yes, they did. as they should have. but then Joe shot them another finger and forgave student loans for all federal employees. which he claims he can do. the supreme court hasn't had a chance to rule on that one yet.

[Who]

The first thing Shit Show did when he entered the office was dismantle many of Trumps executive orders; many of which pertained to the border which directly led to the border crisis we are experiencing right now and will suffer the consequences of for years if not decades more.

Executive orders are not "laws" even though they often carry the weight of a law so the next POTUS can and often does wipe them away.

Your boy, that claims Trump wants to be a dictator, has already defied the Supreme Court in regards to student loans which told him in no uncertain terms that he cant just unilaterally forgive them. Your boy is ignoring the highest court in our country and trying to govern by fiat and bribery.

So the people that had their student loans forgiven will have to start paying them again if 45 wins?

That might piss a few people off.

That whole situation is unclear. As of now Shit Show has tried to circumvent the Supreme Court yet again in his effort to buy votes. Theoretically Trump wouldnt have to do anything because it shouldnt be happening in the first place.
As far as pissing people off...I think more people are pissed off that people who willingly agreed to these loans are getting a freebie on the backs of American taxpayers; most of whom are just regular working folks.

You’ve heard of forever wars.

Some student loans have turned into forever loans.

As someone whom has played the system, I would have thought you would be a tad more sympathetic.

I don’t remember any new lawsuits challenging 46’s latest round of loan forgiveness.

[Animal]

pass laws that make it illegal for a student to borrow so much or set up a repayment plan that turns into a "forever loan". paying people that got in that mess isn't solving the problem.

[Who]

From my observation of this Congress their major concern was not to pass any substantive legislation because they didn’t want to give 46 any victories.

These are the folks that are supposed to be working for our best interests and in fact they are the deep state.

[Geist]

The first thing Shit Show did when he entered the office was dismantle many of Trumps executive orders; many of which pertained to the border which directly led to the border crisis we are experiencing right now and will suffer the consequences of for years if not decades more.

Executive orders are not "laws" even though they often carry the weight of a law so the next POTUS can and often does wipe them away.

Your boy, that claims Trump wants to be a dictator, has already defied the Supreme Court in regards to student loans which told him in no uncertain terms that he cant just unilaterally forgive them. Your boy is ignoring the highest court in our country and trying to govern by fiat and bribery.

So the people that had their student loans forgiven will have to start paying them again if 45 wins?

That might piss a few people off.

The Supreme Court shot down the loan forgiveness. Trump doesn’t have to do anything.

yes, they did. as they should have. but then Joe shot them another finger and forgave student loans for all federal employees. which he claims he can do. the supreme court hasn't had a chance to rule on that one yet.

Please elaborate

[Animal]

The first thing Shit Show did when he entered the office was dismantle many of Trumps executive orders; many of which pertained to the border which directly led to the border crisis we are experiencing right now and will suffer the consequences of for years if not decades more.

Executive orders are not "laws" even though they often carry the weight of a law so the next POTUS can and often does wipe them away.

Your boy, that claims Trump wants to be a dictator, has already defied the Supreme Court in regards to student loans which told him in no uncertain terms that he cant just unilaterally forgive them. Your boy is ignoring the highest court in our country and trying to govern by fiat and bribery.

So the people that had their student loans forgiven will have to start paying them again if 45 wins?

That might piss a few people off.

The Supreme Court shot down the loan forgiveness. Trump doesn’t have to do anything.

yes, they did. as they should have. but then Joe shot them another finger and forgave student loans for all federal employees. which he claims he can do. the supreme court hasn't had a chance to rule on that one yet.

Please elaborate

Biden-Harris Administration Announces Additional $7.7 Billion in Approved Student Debt Relief for 160,000 Borrowers
Biden-Harris Administration has now approved $167 billion in relief for 4.75 million borrowers across the country
MAY 21, 2024
Contact: Press Office, (202) 401-1576, press@ed.gov
The Biden-Harris Administration announced today the approval of $7.7 billion in additional student loan debt relief for 160,500 borrowers. These discharges are for three categories of borrowers: those receiving Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF); those who signed up for President Biden’s Saving on a Valuable Education (SAVE) Plan and who are eligible for its shortened time-to-forgiveness benefit; and those receiving forgiveness on income-driven repayment (IDR) as a result of fixes made by the Administration. This action comes as more than 8 million borrowers have been helped by the SAVE Plan. That includes 4.6 million with a $0 monthly payment.

Today’s announcement brings the total loan forgiveness approved by the Biden-Harris Administration to $167 billion for 4.75 million Americans. Thanks to this Administration’s efforts more than one out of every 10 federal student loan borrowers has now been approved for some debt relief. This action builds on President Biden and his Administration’s efforts to provide debt relief to as many borrowers as possible as quickly as possible.

“The Biden-Harris Administration remains persistent about our efforts to bring student debt relief to millions more across the country, and this announcement proves it,” said U.S. Secretary of Education Miguel Cardona. “One out of every 10 federal student loan borrowers approved for debt relief means one out of every 10 borrowers now has financial breathing room and a burden lifted.”

[CHEEZY17]

Pathetic pandering and buying of votes.

[Geist]

The first thing Shit Show did when he entered the office was dismantle many of Trumps executive orders; many of which pertained to the border which directly led to the border crisis we are experiencing right now and will suffer the consequences of for years if not decades more.

Executive orders are not "laws" even though they often carry the weight of a law so the next POTUS can and often does wipe them away.

Your boy, that claims Trump wants to be a dictator, has already defied the Supreme Court in regards to student loans which told him in no uncertain terms that he cant just unilaterally forgive them. Your boy is ignoring the highest court in our country and trying to govern by fiat and bribery.

So the people that had their student loans forgiven will have to start paying them again if 45 wins?

That might piss a few people off.

The Supreme Court shot down the loan forgiveness. Trump doesn’t have to do anything.

yes, they did. as they should have. but then Joe shot them another finger and forgave student loans for all federal employees. which he claims he can do. the supreme court hasn't had a chance to rule on that one yet.

Please elaborate

Biden-Harris Administration Announces Additional $7.7 Billion in Approved Student Debt Relief for 160,000 Borrowers
Biden-Harris Administration has now approved $167 billion in relief for 4.75 million borrowers across the country
MAY 21, 2024
Contact: Press Office, (202) 401-1576, press@ed.gov
The Biden-Harris Administration announced today the approval of $7.7 billion in additional student loan debt relief for 160,500 borrowers. These discharges are for three categories of borrowers: those receiving Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF); those who signed up for President Biden’s Saving on a Valuable Education (SAVE) Plan and who are eligible for its shortened time-to-forgiveness benefit; and those receiving forgiveness on income-driven repayment (IDR) as a result of fixes made by the Administration. This action comes as more than 8 million borrowers have been helped by the SAVE Plan. That includes 4.6 million with a $0 monthly payment.

Today’s announcement brings the total loan forgiveness approved by the Biden-Harris Administration to $167 billion for 4.75 million Americans. Thanks to this Administration’s efforts more than one out of every 10 federal student loan borrowers has now been approved for some debt relief. This action builds on President Biden and his Administration’s efforts to provide debt relief to as many borrowers as possible as quickly as possible.

“The Biden-Harris Administration remains persistent about our efforts to bring student debt relief to millions more across the country, and this announcement proves it,” said U.S. Secretary of Education Miguel Cardona. “One out of every 10 federal student loan borrowers approved for debt relief means one out of every 10 borrowers now has financial breathing room and a burden lifted.”

You know the PSLF has been in place for over a decade and this was a fix to a broken program, right? I know Cheezy didn't know that, but I thought better of you.

[Animal]

So the people that had their student loans forgiven will have to start paying them again if 45 wins?

That might piss a few people off.

The Supreme Court shot down the loan forgiveness. Trump doesn’t have to do anything.

yes, they did. as they should have. but then Joe shot them another finger and forgave student loans for all federal employees. which he claims he can do. the supreme court hasn't had a chance to rule on that one yet.

Please elaborate

Biden-Harris Administration Announces Additional $7.7 Billion in Approved Student Debt Relief for 160,000 Borrowers
Biden-Harris Administration has now approved $167 billion in relief for 4.75 million borrowers across the country
MAY 21, 2024
Contact: Press Office, (202) 401-1576, press@ed.gov
The Biden-Harris Administration announced today the approval of $7.7 billion in additional student loan debt relief for 160,500 borrowers. These discharges are for three categories of borrowers: those receiving Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF); those who signed up for President Biden’s Saving on a Valuable Education (SAVE) Plan and who are eligible for its shortened time-to-forgiveness benefit; and those receiving forgiveness on income-driven repayment (IDR) as a result of fixes made by the Administration. This action comes as more than 8 million borrowers have been helped by the SAVE Plan. That includes 4.6 million with a $0 monthly payment.

Today’s announcement brings the total loan forgiveness approved by the Biden-Harris Administration to $167 billion for 4.75 million Americans. Thanks to this Administration’s efforts more than one out of every 10 federal student loan borrowers has now been approved for some debt relief. This action builds on President Biden and his Administration’s efforts to provide debt relief to as many borrowers as possible as quickly as possible.

“The Biden-Harris Administration remains persistent about our efforts to bring student debt relief to millions more across the country, and this announcement proves it,” said U.S. Secretary of Education Miguel Cardona. “One out of every 10 federal student loan borrowers approved for debt relief means one out of every 10 borrowers now has financial breathing room and a burden lifted.”

You know the PSLF has been in place for over a decade and this was a fix to a broken program, right? I know Cheezy didn't know that, but I thought better of you.

Are you saying that he's trying to take credit for forgiving loans that would have been forgiven anyway? Because if he announced that he approved it, yet it was already approved and on the books for over 10 years then that would be a completely dishonest attempt to take the credit for it, right? I think you must be mistaken.

[Geist]

The Supreme Court shot down the loan forgiveness. Trump doesn’t have to do anything.

yes, they did. as they should have. but then Joe shot them another finger and forgave student loans for all federal employees. which he claims he can do. the supreme court hasn't had a chance to rule on that one yet.

Please elaborate

Biden-Harris Administration Announces Additional $7.7 Billion in Approved Student Debt Relief for 160,000 Borrowers
Biden-Harris Administration has now approved $167 billion in relief for 4.75 million borrowers across the country
MAY 21, 2024
Contact: Press Office, (202) 401-1576, press@ed.gov
The Biden-Harris Administration announced today the approval of $7.7 billion in additional student loan debt relief for 160,500 borrowers. These discharges are for three categories of borrowers: those receiving Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF); those who signed up for President Biden’s Saving on a Valuable Education (SAVE) Plan and who are eligible for its shortened time-to-forgiveness benefit; and those receiving forgiveness on income-driven repayment (IDR) as a result of fixes made by the Administration. This action comes as more than 8 million borrowers have been helped by the SAVE Plan. That includes 4.6 million with a $0 monthly payment.

Today’s announcement brings the total loan forgiveness approved by the Biden-Harris Administration to $167 billion for 4.75 million Americans. Thanks to this Administration’s efforts more than one out of every 10 federal student loan borrowers has now been approved for some debt relief. This action builds on President Biden and his Administration’s efforts to provide debt relief to as many borrowers as possible as quickly as possible.

“The Biden-Harris Administration remains persistent about our efforts to bring student debt relief to millions more across the country, and this announcement proves it,” said U.S. Secretary of Education Miguel Cardona. “One out of every 10 federal student loan borrowers approved for debt relief means one out of every 10 borrowers now has financial breathing room and a burden lifted.”

You know the PSLF has been in place for over a decade and this was a fix to a broken program, right? I know Cheezy didn't know that, but I thought better of you.

Are you saying that he's trying to take credit for forgiving loans that would have been forgiven anyway? Because if he announced that he approved it, yet it was already approved and on the books for over 10 years then that would be a completely dishonest attempt to take the credit for it, right? I think you must be mistaken.

In a way he is yes, but the program has been broken and not working as intended so all he did was remove deliberately placed beaucratic hurdles to allow the program to function as intended. The PSLF has been a thing since around 2008 and wouldn't essentially take effect until 2018 since it's a 10 year requirement. He absolutely did fix it, but he didn't create it.

[Animal]

yes, they did. as they should have. but then Joe shot them another finger and forgave student loans for all federal employees. which he claims he can do. the supreme court hasn't had a chance to rule on that one yet.

Please elaborate

Biden-Harris Administration Announces Additional $7.7 Billion in Approved Student Debt Relief for 160,000 Borrowers
Biden-Harris Administration has now approved $167 billion in relief for 4.75 million borrowers across the country
MAY 21, 2024
Contact: Press Office, (202) 401-1576, press@ed.gov
The Biden-Harris Administration announced today the approval of $7.7 billion in additional student loan debt relief for 160,500 borrowers. These discharges are for three categories of borrowers: those receiving Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF); those who signed up for President Biden’s Saving on a Valuable Education (SAVE) Plan and who are eligible for its shortened time-to-forgiveness benefit; and those receiving forgiveness on income-driven repayment (IDR) as a result of fixes made by the Administration. This action comes as more than 8 million borrowers have been helped by the SAVE Plan. That includes 4.6 million with a $0 monthly payment.

Today’s announcement brings the total loan forgiveness approved by the Biden-Harris Administration to $167 billion for 4.75 million Americans. Thanks to this Administration’s efforts more than one out of every 10 federal student loan borrowers has now been approved for some debt relief. This action builds on President Biden and his Administration’s efforts to provide debt relief to as many borrowers as possible as quickly as possible.

“The Biden-Harris Administration remains persistent about our efforts to bring student debt relief to millions more across the country, and this announcement proves it,” said U.S. Secretary of Education Miguel Cardona. “One out of every 10 federal student loan borrowers approved for debt relief means one out of every 10 borrowers now has financial breathing room and a burden lifted.”

You know the PSLF has been in place for over a decade and this was a fix to a broken program, right? I know Cheezy didn't know that, but I thought better of you.

Are you saying that he's trying to take credit for forgiving loans that would have been forgiven anyway? Because if he announced that he approved it, yet it was already approved and on the books for over 10 years then that would be a completely dishonest attempt to take the credit for it, right? I think you must be mistaken.

In a way he is yes, but the program has been broken and not working as intended so all he did was remove deliberately placed beaucratic hurdles to allow the program to function as intended. The PSLF has been a thing since around 2008 and wouldn't essentially take effect until 2018 since it's a 10 year requirement. He absolutely did fix it, but he didn't create it.

well, I did know that there was a student loan foregiveness plan in place that had some hurdles to jump through in order to qualify. You had to go to work for certain agencies, you had to never miss a loan payment, you couldn't defer payments, etc. the list of things you had to do to conform to the program were very strict. and IF you did everything exactly, then after 10 years (or some length of time) then they would forgive the remaining balance.

Now, when the news broke of this latest "loan forgiveness program" by Biden, there was absolutely nothing in the announcement that made it sound as if it was that exact same thing. i'm not saying you made it up, because you seem as if you have read way more about it. I have only heard what the news has reported. If you are right, it would make tons of more sense, because i could not believe that the supreme court would rule that he couldn't do something and then he just does it again anyway.

[Geist]

Please elaborate

Biden-Harris Administration Announces Additional $7.7 Billion in Approved Student Debt Relief for 160,000 Borrowers
Biden-Harris Administration has now approved $167 billion in relief for 4.75 million borrowers across the country
MAY 21, 2024
Contact: Press Office, (202) 401-1576, press@ed.gov
The Biden-Harris Administration announced today the approval of $7.7 billion in additional student loan debt relief for 160,500 borrowers. These discharges are for three categories of borrowers: those receiving Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF); those who signed up for President Biden’s Saving on a Valuable Education (SAVE) Plan and who are eligible for its shortened time-to-forgiveness benefit; and those receiving forgiveness on income-driven repayment (IDR) as a result of fixes made by the Administration. This action comes as more than 8 million borrowers have been helped by the SAVE Plan. That includes 4.6 million with a $0 monthly payment.

Today’s announcement brings the total loan forgiveness approved by the Biden-Harris Administration to $167 billion for 4.75 million Americans. Thanks to this Administration’s efforts more than one out of every 10 federal student loan borrowers has now been approved for some debt relief. This action builds on President Biden and his Administration’s efforts to provide debt relief to as many borrowers as possible as quickly as possible.

“The Biden-Harris Administration remains persistent about our efforts to bring student debt relief to millions more across the country, and this announcement proves it,” said U.S. Secretary of Education Miguel Cardona. “One out of every 10 federal student loan borrowers approved for debt relief means one out of every 10 borrowers now has financial breathing room and a burden lifted.”

You know the PSLF has been in place for over a decade and this was a fix to a broken program, right? I know Cheezy didn't know that, but I thought better of you.

Are you saying that he's trying to take credit for forgiving loans that would have been forgiven anyway? Because if he announced that he approved it, yet it was already approved and on the books for over 10 years then that would be a completely dishonest attempt to take the credit for it, right? I think you must be mistaken.

In a way he is yes, but the program has been broken and not working as intended so all he did was remove deliberately placed beaucratic hurdles to allow the program to function as intended. The PSLF has been a thing since around 2008 and wouldn't essentially take effect until 2018 since it's a 10 year requirement. He absolutely did fix it, but he didn't create it.

well, I did know that there was a student loan foregiveness plan in place that had some hurdles to jump through in order to qualify. You had to go to work for certain agencies, you had to never miss a loan payment, you couldn't defer payments, etc. the list of things you had to do to conform to the program were very strict. and IF you did everything exactly, then after 10 years (or some length of time) then they would forgive the remaining balance.

Now, when the news broke of this latest "loan forgiveness program" by Biden, there was absolutely nothing in the announcement that made it sound as if it was that exact same thing. i'm not saying you made it up, because you seem as if you have read way more about it. I have only heard what the news has reported. If you are right, it would make tons of more sense, because i could not believe that the supreme court would rule that he couldn't do something and then he just does it again anyway.

That's exactly what the program was, but people who completed the program and met the requirements (working for a govt agency or qualifying non-profit for 10 years and making 120 payments while on the PSLF plan) were being denied - there were only a handful of approvals been 2018 and now.

No doubt Biden is riding the coattails of others' work here, just saying all he did was streamline what was broken. This didn't have anything to do with the 10k/20k loan forgiveness he originally touted.

[Animal]

So what was done to "fix it"? Did they remove some of the hurdles? I assumed that the number of people qualifying was down because they had not conformed to the strict rules that were in place. The only reason I knew much about it was because a friend had a kid that was a nurse and had loans that wanted to qualify, but after reading the rules carefully, they had already fucked up the chances by deferring payments. And once you fuck up even one thing you have fucked up the whole thing.

[Geist]

So what was done to "fix it"? Did they remove some of the hurdles? I assumed that the number of people qualifying was down because they had not conformed to the strict rules that were in place. The only reason I knew much about it was because a friend had a kid that was a nurse and had loans that wanted to qualify, but after reading the rules carefully, they had already fucked up the chances by deferring payments. And once you fuck up even one thing you have fucked up the whole thing.

All the Biden admin did was alter some of the rules as to what counts as qualifying loans and payments towards them. Like you said, it was more or less a loosening of the rules but also pulled in FFEL and Perkins borrowers (not sure if those were the only ones, might have been more loan types)

[Animal]

So what was done to "fix it"? Did they remove some of the hurdles? I assumed that the number of people qualifying was down because they had not conformed to the strict rules that were in place. The only reason I knew much about it was because a friend had a kid that was a nurse and had loans that wanted to qualify, but after reading the rules carefully, they had already fucked up the chances by deferring payments. And once you fuck up even one thing you have fucked up the whole thing.

All the Biden admin did was alter some of the rules as to what counts as qualifying loans and payments towards them. Like you said, it was more or less a loosening of the rules but also pulled in FFEL and Perkins borrowers (not sure if those were the only ones, might have been more loan types)

so it expanded the people that qualify for it?

[Geist]

So what was done to "fix it"? Did they remove some of the hurdles? I assumed that the number of people qualifying was down because they had not conformed to the strict rules that were in place. The only reason I knew much about it was because a friend had a kid that was a nurse and had loans that wanted to qualify, but after reading the rules carefully, they had already fucked up the chances by deferring payments. And once you fuck up even one thing you have fucked up the whole thing.

All the Biden admin did was alter some of the rules as to what counts as qualifying loans and payments towards them. Like you said, it was more or less a loosening of the rules but also pulled in FFEL and Perkins borrowers (not sure if those were the only ones, might have been more loan types)

so it expanded the people that qualify for it?

That, and streamlined it to allow people who already qualified for it but were stuck in bureaucratic limbo.

Good episode, even though the right hates Johnny boy.



Edit - this helps explain it too. The program has been hamstrung by dogshit servicers who have caused ineligibility issues where they don't exist due to poor record keeping.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamminsky ... -problems/

[CHEEZY17]

So what was done to "fix it"? Did they remove some of the hurdles? I assumed that the number of people qualifying was down because they had not conformed to the strict rules that were in place. The only reason I knew much about it was because a friend had a kid that was a nurse and had loans that wanted to qualify, but after reading the rules carefully, they had already fucked up the chances by deferring payments. And once you fuck up even one thing you have fucked up the whole thing.

All the Biden admin did was alter some of the rules as to what counts as qualifying loans and payments towards them. Like you said, it was more or less a loosening of the rules but also pulled in FFEL and Perkins borrowers (not sure if those were the only ones, might have been more loan types)

Ah, I see. So pandering and bribing just like I said. Cool, thanks.

[Animal]

So what was done to "fix it"? Did they remove some of the hurdles? I assumed that the number of people qualifying was down because they had not conformed to the strict rules that were in place. The only reason I knew much about it was because a friend had a kid that was a nurse and had loans that wanted to qualify, but after reading the rules carefully, they had already fucked up the chances by deferring payments. And once you fuck up even one thing you have fucked up the whole thing.

All the Biden admin did was alter some of the rules as to what counts as qualifying loans and payments towards them. Like you said, it was more or less a loosening of the rules but also pulled in FFEL and Perkins borrowers (not sure if those were the only ones, might have been more loan types)

so it expanded the people that qualify for it?

That, and streamlined it to allow people who already qualified for it but were stuck in bureaucratic limbo.

Good episode, even though the right hates Johnny boy.



Edit - this helps explain it too. The program has been hamstrung by dogshit servicers who have caused ineligibility issues where they don't exist due to poor record keeping.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamminsky ... -problems/

My god. Those kind of programs make me ill. Our government can't get anything right and they think we are going to ever get a program that complicated and with that many rules right. I bet if a true audit was done, they are spending more on the staff and bureaucracy that run the program than the money they forgive in loans. Its laughable that we think our government can ever get anything like this right. They haven't even figured out how to make signing up for Social Security easy after all of these years.