Business owners that employ legal immigrants

[Who]

Do they close up shop if 47 deports the majority of their employees?
The building that I live in has a mitigation company doing the cleanup and repairs.

I have not encountered one person that English is their primary language.

Very few even admit to speaking or understanding English.

The work they are doing is really good and these men and women work.

The elevators have been down most of the time and it is a drag walking up 8 flights of stairs.

[CHEEZY17]

Why would 47 deport legal immigrants?

Good Lord, turn the channel and find some new websites, Gomer.

[Antknot]

The “Democratic RotTM has eaten WHO’s brain.

[Biker]

Why would 47 deport legal immigrants?

Good Lord, turn the channel and find some new websites, Gomer.

TDS is a real affliction

[Animal]

Do they close up shop if 47 deports the majority of their employees?
The building that I live in has a mitigation company doing the cleanup and repairs.

I have not encountered one person that English is their primary language.

Very few even admit to speaking or understanding English.

The work they are doing is really good and these men and women work.

The elevators have been down most of the time and it is a drag walking up 8 flights of stairs.

tell me those stories about how the caravans and migrants streaming across the border by the thousands a day was all just boogey man stories we made up. I loved those.

[CentralTexasCrude]

Here's a thought- it's been going on for 2 Centuries. Leave immediately. Immediately file total legal paperwork with the Federal government. Follow all legal guidelines required and obey all laws. With the need fo r legal labor, you will be provided with work. Follow all rules. Path to citizenship is this way >>>. Take it and sign up for the GOP and being totally legal. Fresh air

[Animal]

^^ brought to you by Old Forester Kentucky Straight

[QillerDaemon]

It's interesting to me that we've made it illegal to be an undocumented worker, and Florida makes it specifically illegal to transport undocumented workers into the state, yet it is still perfectly legal in Florida to hire undocumented workers. It seems so simple, almost as simple as so many of the Right's solutions to everything else, to fine and even imprison employers who hire undocumented workers. But that simply doesn't happen. As both Rick Scott and Puddin' Fingers Rhonda Santis both learned, you fuck with Florida Agriculture, you fuck with the heart of the state. Agricultural moguls here are intensely MAGAt Republicans and Trump supporters, and usually fully back Trump's beliefs in the removal of undocumented workers. -Except- in their businesses, of course, that can't happen.

It isn't just grove and field workers, often at least a third to over a half of whom are undocumented, it's also construction workers (particularly roofers) and food prep that can account for a quarter to almost all of a particular crew. Remove them and what do we have left? You really can't think the average American is going to go into those jobs for the same pay and working conditions. Nor can you really think an employer is going to be satisfied with the reduction of his own (sometimes thin) profits to employee Americans at those jobs.

Are you going to be happy with the price increases due to employee costs (and let's not forget Trump's tariffs), or will you still try to blame that all on Biden?

[Animal]

It's interesting to me that we've made it illegal to be an undocumented worker, and Florida makes it specifically illegal to transport undocumented workers into the state, yet it is still perfectly legal in Florida to hire undocumented workers. It seems so simple, almost as simple as so many of the Right's solutions to everything else, to fine and even imprison employers who hire undocumented workers. But that simply doesn't happen. As both Rick Scott and Puddin' Fingers Rhonda Santis both learned, you fuck with Florida Agriculture, you fuck with the heart of the state. Agricultural moguls here are intensely MAGAt Republicans and Trump supporters, and usually fully back Trump's beliefs in the removal of undocumented workers. -Except- in their businesses, of course, that can't happen.

It isn't just grove and field workers, often at least a third to over a half of whom are undocumented, it's also construction workers (particularly roofers) and food prep that can account for a quarter to almost all of a particular crew. Remove them and what do we have left? You really can't think the average American is going to go into those jobs for the same pay and working conditions. Nor can you really think an employer is going to be satisfied with the reduction of his own (sometimes thin) profits to employee Americans at those jobs.

Are you going to be happy with the price increases due to employee costs (and let's not forget Trump's tariffs), or will you still try to blame that all on Biden?

its also interesting to hear someone that knows nothing about the businesses that hire hispanic labor. I like how they get on their soap box and explain it as though they, not only understand it, but they are an expert on it.

[QillerDaemon]

its also interesting to hear someone that knows nothing about the businesses that hire hispanic labor. I like how they get on their soap box and explain it as though they, not only understand it, but they are an expert on it.

Well, instead of being insulting, how about explaining your position? I mean, you're not Necro, and you're usually a reasonable person on this board.

I'm no expert and have never said I was, but I am someone who's trying to understand the notion of removing our undocumented worker population and how doing that won't increase materials and labor costs adding into the higher price of things but yet still somehow benefit our economy. Nothing I'm reading from the Trump side of this business explains it, either, except by "Trump magic" that he'll apparently pull out of his ass. Punishing the employers of undocumented workers just doesn't seem part of that magic if they're the cause of the demand. If you know better, I'd appreciate your explanation.

So how about you get off your soapbox...

[Animal]

its also interesting to hear someone that knows nothing about the businesses that hire hispanic labor. I like how they get on their soap box and explain it as though they, not only understand it, but they are an expert on it.

Well, instead of being insulting, how about explaining your position? I mean, you're not Necro, and you're usually a reasonable person on this board.

I'm no expert and have never said I was, but I am someone who's trying to understand the notion of removing our undocumented worker population and how doing that won't increase materials and labor costs adding into the higher price of things but yet still somehow benefit our economy. Nothing I'm reading from the Trump side of this business explains it, either, except by "Trump magic" that he'll apparently pull out of his ass. Punishing the employers of undocumented workers just doesn't seem part of that magic if they're the cause of the demand. If you know better, I'd appreciate your explanation.

So how about you get off your soapbox...

For the most part, they won't be removing the ones that are working

[CHEEZY17]

Here's how this will play out:
Yes, they most certainly will try to round up the criminals, crazies and unemployed and unfortunately a few "regular" illegals will inevitably get caught up in that.
The logistical problems of deporting 10-20 million illegal immigrants as a whole though are simply too big to overcome... but they will get a bunch. Many will leave on their own.
Most Americans I think will be satisfied with proper border control, fixing the sham "asylum" bullshit and a consistent effort at removing illegals.

[Animal]

Here's how this will play out:
Yes, they most certainly will try to round up the criminals, crazies and unemployed and unfortunately a few "regular" illegals will inevitably get caught up in that.
The logistical problems of deporting 10-20 million illegal immigrants as a whole though are simply too big to overcome... but they will get a bunch. Many will leave on their own.
Most American I think will be satisfied with proper border control, fixing the sham "asylum" bullshit and a consistent effort at removing illegals.

^That.

The main thing to stop is this cash cow that is funding the cartels right now. These "illegals" used to pay a coyote about $800 or so to help them get to the border in a safe location, cross, and have someone give them a ride for a few hundred miles to a bus station. Now the cartels start getting tolls when they enter south mexico and another $8,000 or $10,000 once they get to the border before they can cross. Its too many. Way too many to be absorbed by employers. And the cartels don't give two shits about the people. They might leave them in a locked up shipping container for several days until the buzzards start circling. They don't provide guarantees or depend on yelp reviews.

The government really has no incentive to gather up the ones that are working and getting pay checks. The government is collecting tons of $$$ in payroll taxes (social security and medicare) that will never be paid out to anyone. Plus a necessary job market is filled.

[necronomous]

its also interesting to hear someone that knows nothing about the businesses that hire hispanic labor. I like how they get on their soap box and explain it as though they, not only understand it, but they are an expert on it.

Well, instead of being insulting, how about explaining your position? I mean, you're not Necro, and you're usually a reasonable person on this board.

I'm no expert and have never said I was, but I am someone who's trying to understand the notion of removing our undocumented worker population and how doing that won't increase materials and labor costs adding into the higher price of things but yet still somehow benefit our economy. Nothing I'm reading from the Trump side of this business explains it, either, except by "Trump magic" that he'll apparently pull out of his ass. Punishing the employers of undocumented workers just doesn't seem part of that magic if they're the cause of the demand. If you know better, I'd appreciate your explanation.

So how about you get off your soapbox...

I explain my side. Yall ignore it. Obfuscate, lie, mental gymnastics, deny, lie some more, go through huge bouts of intellectual dishonesty, then lie some more. So its now no longer important to prove anything to any of you. None of you really want an honest discussion. So, I don't either.

[Antknot]