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necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:57 am
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:45 am
necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:35 am
Geist wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:49 pm
This is false. Healthcare is far from private currently as the government is so far up insurers asses they can smell their breath.
Just because youre too fucking stupid to understand how it works doesnt mean everyone else is. My wife, who works for insurance in the I.T. department constantly has to change the rules made by the government that increases the amount people has to pay. And its always up.
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Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:08 am
necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:57 am
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:45 am
necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:35 am
Geist wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:49 pm
This is false. Healthcare is far from private currently as the government is so far up insurers asses they can smell their breath.
Just because youre too fucking stupid to understand how it works doesnt mean everyone else is. My wife, who works for insurance in the I.T. department constantly has to change the rules made by the government that increases the amount people has to pay. And its always up.
Oh so you're just in denial. Ok. Have fun with that idiocy.
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necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:13 am
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:08 am
necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:57 am
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:45 am
necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:35 am
Geist wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:49 pm
This is false. Healthcare is far from private currently as the government is so far up insurers asses they can smell their breath.
Just because youre too fucking stupid to understand how it works doesnt mean everyone else is. My wife, who works for insurance in the I.T. department constantly has to change the rules made by the government that increases the amount people has to pay. And its always up.
Oh so you're just in denial. Ok. Have fun with that idiocy.
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Re: CEO execution

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Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:18 am
necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:13 am
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:08 am
necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:57 am
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:45 am
necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:35 am

This is false. Healthcare is far from private currently as the government is so far up insurers asses they can smell their breath.
Just because youre too fucking stupid to understand how it works doesnt mean everyone else is. My wife, who works for insurance in the I.T. department constantly has to change the rules made by the government that increases the amount people has to pay. And its always up.
Oh so you're just in denial. Ok. Have fun with that idiocy.
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necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:31 am
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:18 am
necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:13 am
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:08 am
necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:57 am
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:45 am

Just because youre too fucking stupid to understand how it works doesnt mean everyone else is. My wife, who works for insurance in the I.T. department constantly has to change the rules made by the government that increases the amount people has to pay. And its always up.
Oh so you're just in denial. Ok. Have fun with that idiocy.
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Re: CEO execution

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Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:37 am
necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:31 am
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:18 am
necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:13 am
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:08 am
necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:57 am
Just because youre too fucking stupid to understand how it works doesnt mean everyone else is. My wife, who works for insurance in the I.T. department constantly has to change the rules made by the government that increases the amount people has to pay. And its always up.
Oh so you're just in denial. Ok. Have fun with that idiocy.
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Re: CEO execution

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there is only one solution to improve health care. One one side you have a person needing medical help. One the other side you have a doctor that has the ability to provide that help.

FlumperCare 101:

Step one is to remove everyone in between those two people.

Step 2 is that if the person needing the medical help can't afford the help, then the unpaid bill goes to the government.

The end.
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Animal wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:45 pm there is only one solution to improve health care. One one side you have a person needing medical help. One the other side you have a doctor that has the ability to provide that help.

FlumperCare 101:

Step one is to remove everyone in between those two people.

Step 2 is that if the person needing the medical help can't afford the help, then the unpaid bill goes to the government.

The end.
So now the government is picking up the tab for nearly all emergency situations? Y'all have such a hard time admitting that some services can only run efficiently at a loss.
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Re: CEO execution

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Animal wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:45 pm there is only one solution to improve health care. One one side you have a person needing medical help. One the other side you have a doctor that has the ability to provide that help.

FlumperCare 101:

Step one is to remove everyone in between those two people.

Step 2 is that if the person needing the medical help can't afford the help, then the unpaid bill goes to the government.

The end.
Literally everyone would claim that they can't afford the help.
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:55 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:45 pm there is only one solution to improve health care. One one side you have a person needing medical help. One the other side you have a doctor that has the ability to provide that help.

FlumperCare 101:

Step one is to remove everyone in between those two people.

Step 2 is that if the person needing the medical help can't afford the help, then the unpaid bill goes to the government.

The end.
Literally everyone would claim that they can't afford the help.
i'm sure their tax returns would say otherwise. its not like we don't have the information on who can afford to pay and who can't.
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Animal wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:10 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:55 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:45 pm there is only one solution to improve health care. One one side you have a person needing medical help. One the other side you have a doctor that has the ability to provide that help.

FlumperCare 101:

Step one is to remove everyone in between those two people.

Step 2 is that if the person needing the medical help can't afford the help, then the unpaid bill goes to the government.

The end.
Literally everyone would claim that they can't afford the help.
i'm sure their tax returns would say otherwise. its not like we don't have the information on who can afford to pay and who can't.
Please explain how their tax returns get involved in this process :lol:

So efficient
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Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:11 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:10 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:55 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:45 pm there is only one solution to improve health care. One one side you have a person needing medical help. One the other side you have a doctor that has the ability to provide that help.

FlumperCare 101:

Step one is to remove everyone in between those two people.

Step 2 is that if the person needing the medical help can't afford the help, then the unpaid bill goes to the government.

The end.
Literally everyone would claim that they can't afford the help.
i'm sure their tax returns would say otherwise. its not like we don't have the information on who can afford to pay and who can't.
Please explain how their tax returns get involved in this process :lol:

So efficient
I know you must be smart enough to know how a tax return works. Every government program is doled out based on a person's income. Even the amount you pay for Medicare is determined by your income. This is 101 level information for the government.
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just a quick search of how your income is used to determine what Obamacare costs:

Your income determines what you pay for Obamacare (the Affordable Care Act) through the use of Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI):
What is MAGI?
MAGI is a household's income figure that includes:
Adjusted gross income (AGI)
Tax-exempt interest
Social Security benefits not included in gross income
Excluded foreign income
How is MAGI used?
The Marketplace uses MAGI to determine eligibility for:
Premium tax credits
Other savings for Marketplace health insurance plans
Income-based Medicaid
How to determine eligibility?
Eligibility is based on how your household income compares to the federal poverty level (FPL):
Income above 400% FPL: You may qualify for premium tax credits
Income between 100% and 400% FPL: You qualify for premium tax credits
Income at or below 150% FPL: You may qualify for a Special Enrollment Period
Income below 138% FPL: You may qualify for Medicaid based only on your income
Income below 100% FPL: You probably won't qualify for savings
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You keep bringing up premium-related expenses, not cost of use, and you're trying to clumsily reinvent the wheel because you don't like the actual answer.

Look I know this wasn't serious and you were just spitballing dumb ideas, it's just humorous how far y'all go to not admit this problem has already been solved by countries not plagued by the propaganda-addled brains American right-wingers.
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Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:32 pm You keep bringing up premium-related expenses, not cost of use, and you're trying to clumsily reinvent the wheel because you don't like the actual answer.

Look I know this wasn't serious and you were just spitballing dumb ideas, it's just humorous how far y'all go to not admit this problem has already been solved by countries not plagued by the propaganda-addled brains American right-wingers.
Except it's not solved by them. They can not afford it on their own. We give money to those countries. We provide the military they don't have to spend it on. And we pay and pick up the tab they refuse to for things such as NATO and any climate agreement we get into. They also have cheaper medications because we pay more for ours. On top of that, their wait times far exceed actual needs in a lot of cases. Nice try though thinking the world is all hunky dory except here. And of course you will dismiss this, but you're just in denial still. Medicine needs to be actually privatized where there is competition and it drives down the costs. That's what was happening prior to government intervention. It can again.

If youre going to claim youre not WTC at least stop thinking and talking like him.
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Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:32 pm You keep bringing up premium-related expenses, not cost of use, and you're trying to clumsily reinvent the wheel because you don't like the actual answer.

Look I know this wasn't serious and you were just spitballing dumb ideas, it's just humorous how far y'all go to not admit this problem has already been solved by countries not plagued by the propaganda-addled brains American right-wingers.
actually, I am not reinventing any wheels. The medicare wheel was invented many years ago. you seem to be the one trying to push other country's ideas on us.

If you remove the insurance companies and all of the middle men from between the patient and the doctor you have lowered healthcare costs more than any other idea you, or anyone else, can come up with.
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necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:05 pm
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:32 pm You keep bringing up premium-related expenses, not cost of use, and you're trying to clumsily reinvent the wheel because you don't like the actual answer.

Look I know this wasn't serious and you were just spitballing dumb ideas, it's just humorous how far y'all go to not admit this problem has already been solved by countries not plagued by the propaganda-addled brains American right-wingers.
Except it's not solved by them. They can not afford it on their own. We give money to those countries. We provide the military they don't have to spend it on. And we pay and pick up the tab they refuse to for things such as NATO and any climate agreement we get into. They also have cheaper medications because we pay more for ours. On top of that, their wait times far exceed actual needs in a lot of cases. Nice try though thinking the world is all hunky dory except here. And of course you will dismiss this, but you're just in denial still. Medicine needs to be actually privatized where there is competition and it drives down the costs. That's what was happening prior to government intervention. It can again.

If youre going to claim youre not WTC at least stop thinking and talking like him.
No one is talking to you, retard.
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Animal wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:08 pm
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:32 pm You keep bringing up premium-related expenses, not cost of use, and you're trying to clumsily reinvent the wheel because you don't like the actual answer.

Look I know this wasn't serious and you were just spitballing dumb ideas, it's just humorous how far y'all go to not admit this problem has already been solved by countries not plagued by the propaganda-addled brains American right-wingers.
actually, I am not reinventing any wheels. The medicare wheel was invented many years ago. you seem to be the one trying to push other country's ideas on us.

If you remove the insurance companies and all of the middle men from between the patient and the doctor you have lowered healthcare costs more than any other idea you, or anyone else, can come up with.
Who said removing the middle man isn't the solution? We agree on that. But your solution to have the government absorb losses is confused at best.
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Animal wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:08 pm
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:32 pm You keep bringing up premium-related expenses, not cost of use, and you're trying to clumsily reinvent the wheel because you don't like the actual answer.

Look I know this wasn't serious and you were just spitballing dumb ideas, it's just humorous how far y'all go to not admit this problem has already been solved by countries not plagued by the propaganda-addled brains American right-wingers.
actually, I am not reinventing any wheels. The medicare wheel was invented many years ago. you seem to be the one trying to push other country's ideas on us.

If you remove the insurance companies and all of the middle men from between the patient and the doctor you have lowered healthcare costs more than any other idea you, or anyone else, can come up with.
How would it lower healthcare costs?
Do you think the hospitals and doctors will lower their fees if you remove the insurance companies and the middlemen?
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Re: CEO execution

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Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:13 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:08 pm
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:32 pm You keep bringing up premium-related expenses, not cost of use, and you're trying to clumsily reinvent the wheel because you don't like the actual answer.

Look I know this wasn't serious and you were just spitballing dumb ideas, it's just humorous how far y'all go to not admit this problem has already been solved by countries not plagued by the propaganda-addled brains American right-wingers.
actually, I am not reinventing any wheels. The medicare wheel was invented many years ago. you seem to be the one trying to push other country's ideas on us.

If you remove the insurance companies and all of the middle men from between the patient and the doctor you have lowered healthcare costs more than any other idea you, or anyone else, can come up with.
Who said removing the middle man isn't the solution? We agree on that. But your solution to have the government absorb losses is confused at best.
there is nothing about it that is confused. The confused part is your ability to understand it.

Let me tell you the absolutely most efficient medical model that I have ever seen in action. A lot of the mexican population is considered poor. When they get sick (around here) they go to John Petersmith Hospital in Fort Worth. JPS is owned and run by the county. Its a huge hospital with every kind of care that you can imagine. People use it for heart surgery down to car wrecks. Any time a poor hispanic is in need of medical care (having a baby or heart attack or injury) they go to JPS and get treated. When they get the bill they don't pay it. Its really that simple. The county makes up whatever short fall there is at the end of the year for that hospital.

The brilliance of this system is its simplicity. Every city has hospitals like this. And I am sure the poor people use them the same way across the US. I just happen to know about the local one to me.
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Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:09 pm
necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:05 pm
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:32 pm You keep bringing up premium-related expenses, not cost of use, and you're trying to clumsily reinvent the wheel because you don't like the actual answer.

Look I know this wasn't serious and you were just spitballing dumb ideas, it's just humorous how far y'all go to not admit this problem has already been solved by countries not plagued by the propaganda-addled brains American right-wingers.
Except it's not solved by them. They can not afford it on their own. We give money to those countries. We provide the military they don't have to spend it on. And we pay and pick up the tab they refuse to for things such as NATO and any climate agreement we get into. They also have cheaper medications because we pay more for ours. On top of that, their wait times far exceed actual needs in a lot of cases. Nice try though thinking the world is all hunky dory except here. And of course you will dismiss this, but you're just in denial still. Medicine needs to be actually privatized where there is competition and it drives down the costs. That's what was happening prior to government intervention. It can again.

If youre going to claim youre not WTC at least stop thinking and talking like him.
No one is talking to you, retard.
I get it. You dont have a real response so you use memes and attacks to mask the fact you aren't as smart as you think you are. You think you know all the answers when in reality you're blinded by this stupid ideal that is far from reality. We all know this. The sad part is, its not that I don't have respect for you, you just don't have it for yourself.
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Re: CEO execution

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Animal wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:18 pm
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:13 pm
Animal wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:08 pm
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:32 pm You keep bringing up premium-related expenses, not cost of use, and you're trying to clumsily reinvent the wheel because you don't like the actual answer.

Look I know this wasn't serious and you were just spitballing dumb ideas, it's just humorous how far y'all go to not admit this problem has already been solved by countries not plagued by the propaganda-addled brains American right-wingers.
actually, I am not reinventing any wheels. The medicare wheel was invented many years ago. you seem to be the one trying to push other country's ideas on us.

If you remove the insurance companies and all of the middle men from between the patient and the doctor you have lowered healthcare costs more than any other idea you, or anyone else, can come up with.
Who said removing the middle man isn't the solution? We agree on that. But your solution to have the government absorb losses is confused at best.
there is nothing about it that is confused. The confused part is your ability to understand it.

Let me tell you the absolutely most efficient medical model that I have ever seen in action. A lot of the mexican population is considered poor. When they get sick (around here) they go to John Petersmith Hospital in Fort Worth. JPS is owned and run by the county. Its a huge hospital with every kind of care that you can imagine. People use it for heart surgery down to car wrecks. Any time a poor hispanic is in need of medical care (having a baby or heart attack or injury) they go to JPS and get treated. When they get the bill they don't pay it. Its really that simple. The county makes up whatever short fall there is at the end of the year for that hospital.

The brilliance of this system is its simplicity. Every city has hospitals like this. And I am sure the poor people use them the same way across the US. I just happen to know about the local one to me.
So you are good with government subsidized healthcare. Yeah, you're confused.
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necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:32 pm
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:09 pm
necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:05 pm
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:32 pm You keep bringing up premium-related expenses, not cost of use, and you're trying to clumsily reinvent the wheel because you don't like the actual answer.

Look I know this wasn't serious and you were just spitballing dumb ideas, it's just humorous how far y'all go to not admit this problem has already been solved by countries not plagued by the propaganda-addled brains American right-wingers.
Except it's not solved by them. They can not afford it on their own. We give money to those countries. We provide the military they don't have to spend it on. And we pay and pick up the tab they refuse to for things such as NATO and any climate agreement we get into. They also have cheaper medications because we pay more for ours. On top of that, their wait times far exceed actual needs in a lot of cases. Nice try though thinking the world is all hunky dory except here. And of course you will dismiss this, but you're just in denial still. Medicine needs to be actually privatized where there is competition and it drives down the costs. That's what was happening prior to government intervention. It can again.

If youre going to claim youre not WTC at least stop thinking and talking like him.
No one is talking to you, retard.
I get it. You dont have a real response so you use memes and attacks to mask the fact you aren't as smart as you think you are. You think you know all the answers when in reality you're blinded by this stupid ideal that is far from reality. We all know this. The sad part is, its not that I don't have respect for you, you just don't have it for yourself.
I read none of this shit because you're proven genetic trash. Squawk all you want, retard.
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Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:34 pm
necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:32 pm
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:09 pm
necronomous wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:05 pm
Geist wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:32 pm You keep bringing up premium-related expenses, not cost of use, and you're trying to clumsily reinvent the wheel because you don't like the actual answer.

Look I know this wasn't serious and you were just spitballing dumb ideas, it's just humorous how far y'all go to not admit this problem has already been solved by countries not plagued by the propaganda-addled brains American right-wingers.
Except it's not solved by them. They can not afford it on their own. We give money to those countries. We provide the military they don't have to spend it on. And we pay and pick up the tab they refuse to for things such as NATO and any climate agreement we get into. They also have cheaper medications because we pay more for ours. On top of that, their wait times far exceed actual needs in a lot of cases. Nice try though thinking the world is all hunky dory except here. And of course you will dismiss this, but you're just in denial still. Medicine needs to be actually privatized where there is competition and it drives down the costs. That's what was happening prior to government intervention. It can again.

If youre going to claim youre not WTC at least stop thinking and talking like him.
No one is talking to you, retard.
I get it. You dont have a real response so you use memes and attacks to mask the fact you aren't as smart as you think you are. You think you know all the answers when in reality you're blinded by this stupid ideal that is far from reality. We all know this. The sad part is, its not that I don't have respect for you, you just don't have it for yourself.
I read none of this shit because you're proven genetic trash. Squawk all you want, retard.
Sure you didn't. Wink wink. Its hard to admit when someone else is correct and of course you could never bring yourself to do that. Good luck being naive as fuck. I'd thought you would have grown out of that by now, but it seems you still want to be a child.
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