CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:12 am
AnalHamster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:17 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:06 am
AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:01 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:20 pm
AnalHamster wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:13 pm
No, I already pointed out you were cherry picking and quoted for you parts you were ignoring to do so, you pretended not to see. You just aren't capable of criticising the precious, which is why you just ignored every question I asked you. Doesn't matter, the numbers won't be affected by the imaginary amazing deal the amazing dealmaker just pretended to get so he'll be pulling the same shit again in a few weeks. I'll just beat you over the head with it then.
Except I criticize Donny all the time you fucking retard.
Its your article not mine and it says what it says. Its not my fault that iyour own article says the talks started in earnest last Sunday and that additional things had been added.
Is there a cost? Sure. For this particular issue and in this particular instance the "cost" was negligible. Any other questions I can help you with?
Nah, you do the standard trump cuck thing and lament that he makes the occasional dumb tweet,' oh deary me I do wish he wouldn't call john mccain a twat. See I criticise trump therefore when I support him on every policy every day I'm in the clear.' Nope. Literally every trumpcuck here does that.
If you really want to keep cherry picking from the article in this tedious way and ignoring my quotes from it and my questions to you, at least try explaining how you think something agreed months back can have been decided last sunday.
Its tedious only to you because I am forcing you to argue against your own article.
What questions do you want answered aside from the one that I clearly just did above? Do I think the numbers will drop? I certainly hope so. And sure, I'll say that they will show a decrease over the next 6 months. Now, any other questions you think I cant answer?
I replied to your quote from the article, quoting from the article. It was around the time you left the topic completely, do feel free as always to go back to the on topic post and make an on topic post. I would like all the questions answered, that is why I asked them. Including what I asked you just then - explain how you think something decided months back was decided since sunday. Questions do tend to build when your default position is to ignore everything put to you.
Did you think the numbers were going to show a 6 month decrease when trump threatened to close the border completely then caved with a declaration that he'd won a fantastic deal?
Left the topic? Its only been up since Friday and sorry I do have a family and a life. I have never left anything. I believe you are completely mental.
I am right here forcing you to argue against your own article. Always have and always will until I get bored of your schtick.
I will go head and quote your entire post for you so we can go through the questions you seem to think I havent or cant answer:
hammy wrote:Uh huh. Are you capable of recognising and admitting that everything you just listed was already agreed to?
It was agreed to and then expanded upon. This epic achievement you are touting is tweaking the numbers on things they had already agreed to do. Are you able to understand that? I understand it and "tweaking the numbers" is still adding to and making the agreement better. It's what he does, like when he tweaked nafta and pretending it was a totally different deal. Before he undermined it with these shenanigans.
Do you think there is any cost from undermining trade agreements and randomly threatening allies? Already answered.
Are you willing to go out on a limb (which will fall off) and say you think the numbers will come down thanks to this wonderful deal? Already answered. Remember when he threatened to close the border, then caved while declaring he'd got a great deal? I do remember. How many times are you going to get duped by the same bullshit? Nothing was achieved there. Something was achieved here. All he achieved with the threat to shit on your own economy was the senate republicans finding their balls and telling him they would not allow it. The pretend deal is him saving face and you getting duped. The numbers will stay up and he'll be making more threats in a few weeks, then he'll declare another epic megadeal and rinse and repeat. I guess you'll just keep falling for it as long as he keeps doing it.
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Must. Not. Give. Orange. Administration. Credit.
I know its tough for you.
This is a win for the administration no matter how much you pooh pooh it. Face it. Accept it.
You leave the topic when you abandon on topic responses and just start derping.
You keep saying I'm arguing against the article that supports my position and opposes yours, I responded to that the first time you raised it pointing out you were cherry picking and quoting the next bit for you. Respond to that post if you like, you just ignored it and keep making the assertion it addressed.
Anyway, so now you agree you were wrong when you listed the 'achievements' trump had told you resulted from the temper tanrtrum, and admit all he got was 'an expansion' of existing commitments. 'When we get around to doing these things, now we'll do them even more'. Nothing changed, they just let trump save face and dupe you. Now he's having a twitter tantrum because the press called him on it.
The cost of undermining trade agreements and threatening economic devastation isn't negligible in any way, the US is now an unreliable negotiating partner that welches on things it does agree, that's a big hurdle to international agreements, and uncertainty costs money. Trump will be back at it threatening to shit on trade with mexico again in a matter of weeks, and everyone knows it. It's the same 'win' he had when he threatened to close the border entirely, the same 'win' he'll have again in a few weeks when the numbers stay up. You'll be duped every time.