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Reservoir Dog wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:46 pm My thoughts on Brady being the GOAT.

Tom Brady is a great Quarterback. There is absolutely no denying it.
Matt Ryan, Philip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger and Drew Brees are also great Quarterbacks.
So what's the difference? Why is Brady about to go to his 9th Super Bowl and the rest of those guys have seen one, two or none?

The difference is that Brady was lucky enough to get handcuffed to the greatest Head Coach in the history of the NFL.
Bill Belichick's football genius, preparation, game planning and ability to make adjustments are unmatched and probably never will be. Belichick could have won 5 Super Bowls with any of the other QB's I mentioned above (he probably would have won 8 if he had Aaron Rodgers). Belichick could have won 5 Super Bowls with Ryan Fitzpatrick. Shit, I bet he could have won 2 or 3 Super Bowls with A.J. McCarron or JaMarcus Russell.

Make no mistake about it ... Tom Brady is going to his 9th Super Bowl thanks to Bill Belichick. It's not the other way around.
If Tom Brady played for any other team in the league, there's no fucking way he'd have 5 rings right now.

Tom Brady is a great Quarterback. He deserves all the praise he gets, and he deserves those rings.

But Joe Montana is the GOAT.
Joe Montana was lucky enough to be paired with the best coach of his generation in Bill Walsh. Some of your argument could apply to him as well.
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B-Tender wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:53 pm Joe Montana was lucky enough to be paired with the best coach of his generation in Bill Walsh.
Really? I'd have to go with Tom Landry on that one.
Regardless, Walsh was a good coach ... but he was never on Belichick's level.
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:02 pm
B-Tender wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:53 pm Joe Montana was lucky enough to be paired with the best coach of his generation in Bill Walsh.
Really? I'd have to go with Tom Landry on that one.
Regardless, Walsh was a good coach ... but he was never on Belichick's level.
He only reinvented the modern offense.
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B-Tender wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:17 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:02 pm
B-Tender wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:53 pm Joe Montana was lucky enough to be paired with the best coach of his generation in Bill Walsh.
Really? I'd have to go with Tom Landry on that one.
Regardless, Walsh was a good coach ... but he was never on Belichick's level.
He only reinvented the modern offense.
Because he used NCAA schemes at the pro level?
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:09 pm
B-Tender wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:17 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:02 pm
B-Tender wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:53 pm Joe Montana was lucky enough to be paired with the best coach of his generation in Bill Walsh.
Really? I'd have to go with Tom Landry on that one.
Regardless, Walsh was a good coach ... but he was never on Belichick's level.
He only reinvented the modern offense.
Because he used NCAA schemes at the pro level?
Or Sid Gillman to Al Davis to Bill Walsh, each bringing their own influences. Don Coryell was in there too.
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B-Tender wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:22 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:09 pm
B-Tender wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:17 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:02 pm
B-Tender wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:53 pm Joe Montana was lucky enough to be paired with the best coach of his generation in Bill Walsh.
Really? I'd have to go with Tom Landry on that one.
Regardless, Walsh was a good coach ... but he was never on Belichick's level.
He only reinvented the modern offense.
Because he used NCAA schemes at the pro level?
Or Sid Gillman to Al Davis to Bill Walsh, each bringing their own influences. Don Coryell was in there too.
Okay, let me clarify where I'm coming from.

In the span of 10 years Joe Gibbs took the Washington Redskins to 4 Super Bowls and won 3 of them. He won those 3 Super Bowls using 3 different starting Quarterbacks. Everyone remembers Joe Theismann ... but who remembers Doug Williams or Mark Rypien?
What I'm saying is that Bill Belichick could have won 5 Super Bowls using just about any halfway decent QB in the league.
On the other hand, I don't think Bill Walsh wins 3 Super Bowls without Joe Montana.
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:04 pm
B-Tender wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:22 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:09 pm
B-Tender wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:17 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:02 pm
B-Tender wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:53 pm Joe Montana was lucky enough to be paired with the best coach of his generation in Bill Walsh.
Really? I'd have to go with Tom Landry on that one.
Regardless, Walsh was a good coach ... but he was never on Belichick's level.
He only reinvented the modern offense.
Because he used NCAA schemes at the pro level?
Or Sid Gillman to Al Davis to Bill Walsh, each bringing their own influences. Don Coryell was in there too.
Okay, let me clarify where I'm coming from.

In the span of 10 years Joe Gibbs took the Washington Redskins to 4 Super Bowls and won 3 of them. He won those 3 Super Bowls using 3 different starting Quarterbacks. Everyone remembers Joe Theismann ... but who remembers Doug Williams or Mark Rypien?
What I'm saying is that Bill Belichick could have won 5 Super Bowls using just about any halfway decent QB in the league.
On the other hand, I don't think Bill Walsh wins 3 Super Bowls without Joe Montana.
I understand where you are coming from. I do think Walsh would still have won though. The 49's were stacked on offense and decent on defense. The O line, receivers, and RBs were all elite. Montana and Brady are very similar to me. Winners, leaders, mentally superior.
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B-Tender wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:41 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:04 pm
B-Tender wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:22 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:09 pm
B-Tender wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:17 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:02 pm Really? I'd have to go with Tom Landry on that one.
Regardless, Walsh was a good coach ... but he was never on Belichick's level.
He only reinvented the modern offense.
Because he used NCAA schemes at the pro level?
Or Sid Gillman to Al Davis to Bill Walsh, each bringing their own influences. Don Coryell was in there too.
Okay, let me clarify where I'm coming from.

In the span of 10 years Joe Gibbs took the Washington Redskins to 4 Super Bowls and won 3 of them. He won those 3 Super Bowls using 3 different starting Quarterbacks. Everyone remembers Joe Theismann ... but who remembers Doug Williams or Mark Rypien?
What I'm saying is that Bill Belichick could have won 5 Super Bowls using just about any halfway decent QB in the league.
On the other hand, I don't think Bill Walsh wins 3 Super Bowls without Joe Montana.
I understand where you are coming from. I do think Walsh would still have won though. The 49's were stacked on offense and decent on defense. The O line, receivers, and RBs were all elite. Montana and Brady are very similar to me. Winners, leaders, mentally superior.
The 49ers were not even remotely stacked when they won their first Super Bowl. That was Joe Montana, Dwight Clark and a bunch of forgotten players on offense.
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spudoc wrote: Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:15 am
B-Tender wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:41 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:04 pm
B-Tender wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:22 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:09 pm
B-Tender wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:17 pm He only reinvented the modern offense.
Because he used NCAA schemes at the pro level?
Or Sid Gillman to Al Davis to Bill Walsh, each bringing their own influences. Don Coryell was in there too.
Okay, let me clarify where I'm coming from.

In the span of 10 years Joe Gibbs took the Washington Redskins to 4 Super Bowls and won 3 of them. He won those 3 Super Bowls using 3 different starting Quarterbacks. Everyone remembers Joe Theismann ... but who remembers Doug Williams or Mark Rypien?
What I'm saying is that Bill Belichick could have won 5 Super Bowls using just about any halfway decent QB in the league.
On the other hand, I don't think Bill Walsh wins 3 Super Bowls without Joe Montana.
I understand where you are coming from. I do think Walsh would still have won though. The 49's were stacked on offense and decent on defense. The O line, receivers, and RBs were all elite. Montana and Brady are very similar to me. Winners, leaders, mentally superior.
The 49ers were not even remotely stacked when they won their first Super Bowl. That was Joe Montana, Dwight Clark and a bunch of forgotten players on offense.
The first year, true, but Rice, Taylor, Roger Craig, maybe the best pass blocking O line of the time.
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My prediction. Rams 34/ Pats 31
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Pats 35 Rams 34
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megman wrote: Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:09 amPats 35 Rams 34
Should be a great game. Bali is just stretching it with a 42 yo QB and other patch jobs. Rams bring the whole package in all 4 phases.
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I need everyone's prediction before kick off.
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WestTexasCrude wrote: Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:28 pm I need everyone's prediction before kick off.
Will your OS allow it?
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Rams 38 Pats 17
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Rams 34 Pats 31. Also predict some questionable calls.

And any tips for watching online?
What if it was one guy with six guns?
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Homebrew wrote: Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:15 pm And any tips for watching online?
Don't use WTC's OS.
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efman wrote: Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:00 pmRams 38 Pats 17
Thank you
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Homebrew wrote: Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:15 pm Rams 34 Pats 31. Also predict some questionable calls.

And any tips for watching online?
Thank you
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Need everybody else 3 hours
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WestTexasCrude wrote: Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:25 pm Need everybody else 3 hours
Tampa Bay 28 - Cleveland 16
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Reservoir Dog wrote: Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:16 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:25 pm Need everybody else 3 hours
Tampa Bay 28 - Cleveland 16
Waiting for your credible prediction. Oh, and I'll be checking your math as per usual these last 2 years.
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WestTexasCrude wrote: Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:37 pm
Reservoir Dog wrote: Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:16 pm
WestTexasCrude wrote: Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:25 pm Need everybody else 3 hours
Tampa Bay 28 - Cleveland 16
Waiting for your credible prediction. Oh, and I'll be checking your math as per usual these last 2 years.
Toronto Maple Leafs 5 - Utah Jazz 103
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I'll make one final prediction. I think the Rams win maybe not easy but with a statement. I like the young Head coach and what's he's done there in LA with all the distraction of moving the team there, no fan base, etc. Has all 4 phases of the game locked in. Of course, they are young which is the only reason I expect a close game. MY 2 cents worth anyway. See you after the game. Enjoy.
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