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New Mexico governor withdraws National Guard from the border, slams Trump's 'charade'

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New Mexico governor withdraws National Guard from the border, slams Trump's 'charade'

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By Daniella Silva
The governor of New Mexico ordered the state’s National Guard to withdraw a majority of its troops from the southern border, slamming what she called President Donald Trump’s “charade” shortly before the State of the Union address Tuesday.

“New Mexico will not take part in the president’s charade of border fear-mongering by misusing our diligent National Guard troops,” Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham said in a statement.

Lujan Grisham, who was elected as the first Latina Democratic governor of the state in the 2018 midterm election, said she rejected the “federal contention that there exists an overwhelming national security crisis at the southern border.”

She also ordered troops from outside of the state, including Arkansas, Kansas, Kentucky, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Wisconsin, to return to their home states.

While Lujan Grisham ordered the withdrawal of many of the troops, she also directed troops in Hidalgo County and the surrounding southwestern areas to remain in place. Those troops will continue to "assist with the ongoing humanitarian needs of communities there, who have seen large groups of families, women and children crossing over the border in the remote Antelope Wells area in recent months," she said.

“I recognize and appreciate the legitimate concerns of residents and officials in southwestern New Mexico, particularly Hidalgo County, who have asked for our assistance, as migrants and asylum-seekers continue to appear at their doorstep,” she said.

That small group consists of around a dozen guardsmen, according to The Associated Press.

The area has seen a recent influx of large numbers of Mexican families, including a group of 306 migrants on Jan. 25.

Lujan Grisham also directed the state’s Department of Public Safety to deploy temporarily a group of six New Mexico State Police officers to assist local law enforcement in Hidalgo County.

The governor’s announcement challenged Trump’s ongoing claim that there is a “crisis" at the U.S.-Mexico border. During Tuesday’s State of the Union speech, Trump repeated the claim and doubled down on his pledge to build a wall along the southern border, warning of a "tremendous onslaught" of migrants.

"This is a moral issue," Trump said. "The lawless state of our Southern border is a threat to the safety, security and financial well-being of all Americans."
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"While Lujan Grisham ordered the withdrawal of many of the troops, she also directed troops in Hidalgo County and the surrounding southwestern areas to remain in place. Those troops will continue to "assist with the ongoing humanitarian needs of communities there, who have seen large groups of families, women and children crossing over the border in the remote Antelope Wells area in recent months," she said."

So, it's a charade...but they need troops to assist with the large groups that crossed in recent months. :lol:
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PimpDaddy wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:32 pm "While Lujan Grisham ordered the withdrawal of many of the troops, she also directed troops in Hidalgo County and the surrounding southwestern areas to remain in place. Those troops will continue to "assist with the ongoing humanitarian needs of communities there, who have seen large groups of families, women and children crossing over the border in the remote Antelope Wells area in recent months," she said."

So, it's a charade...but they need troops to assist with the large groups that crossed in recent months. :lol:
Yes, one dozen to assist with the humanitarian needs of the family groups. Trump deployed thousands of soldiers to sit around twiddling their thumbs.
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PimpDaddy wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:32 pm "While Lujan Grisham ordered the withdrawal of many of the troops, she also directed troops in Hidalgo County and the surrounding southwestern areas to remain in place. Those troops will continue to "assist with the ongoing humanitarian needs of communities there, who have seen large groups of families, women and children crossing over the border in the remote Antelope Wells area in recent months," she said."

So, it's a charade...but they need troops to assist with the large groups that crossed in recent months. :lol:
Yeah leaving a dozen people to assist is the same as leaving a few thousand for a fake crisis. Way to think it through.
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Biker wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:56 pm
stymiegreen wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:37 pm
PimpDaddy wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:32 pm "While Lujan Grisham ordered the withdrawal of many of the troops, she also directed troops in Hidalgo County and the surrounding southwestern areas to remain in place. Those troops will continue to "assist with the ongoing humanitarian needs of communities there, who have seen large groups of families, women and children crossing over the border in the remote Antelope Wells area in recent months," she said."

So, it's a charade...but they need troops to assist with the large groups that crossed in recent months. :lol:
Yeah leaving a dozen people to assist is the same as leaving a few thousand for a fake crisis. Way to think it through.
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This is from 2015, but point is made. Gonna guess the cost didn't go down since then. Care to guess which State is most dependent on the federal government? I wish Trump had a hissy fit over this, and simply cut funding.

Cost of Illegal Immigration in New Mexico
By Erica Baum | Saturday, 17 October 2015 01:16 AM


The approximate 100,000 illegal immigrants in New Mexico continue to force the state to expend funds on people living in the U.S. illegally.

New Mexico spends approximately $717 million per year in fiscal costs to support the illegal immigrants residing in the state, according to the Federation for American Immigration Reform’s (FAIR) 2013 report. Of those funds, which come primarily from taxpayer money, $438 million goes toward K-12 education costs, $54 million goes toward supplemental English teaching efforts, $76 million goes toward prosecuting and policing illegal immigrants, and $108 million go toward heath care and social assistance.

As a result, each New Mexico household headed by a U.S.-born citizen pays on average about $1,000 to support people who are in the U.S. illegally. Only about $34 million worth of the financial burden is funded by taxes from illegal immigrants.

Additionally, there are an estimated 30,000 U.S.-born children with illegal immigrant parents in New Mexico. Accordingly, New Mexico’s taxpayers pay $11,876 for each child in their public school system.
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Biker wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:05 pm
stymiegreen wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:04 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:56 pm
stymiegreen wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:37 pm
PimpDaddy wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:32 pm "While Lujan Grisham ordered the withdrawal of many of the troops, she also directed troops in Hidalgo County and the surrounding southwestern areas to remain in place. Those troops will continue to "assist with the ongoing humanitarian needs of communities there, who have seen large groups of families, women and children crossing over the border in the remote Antelope Wells area in recent months," she said."

So, it's a charade...but they need troops to assist with the large groups that crossed in recent months. :lol:
Yeah leaving a dozen people to assist is the same as leaving a few thousand for a fake crisis. Way to think it through.
You got your talking points down! Well done, NPC53927564-12
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Youre the one who is regurgitating the talking points of your Dear Leaders. Yeah, youre a real independent thinker, guy lulz
You literally repeat Trump lines verbatim. Another on the list of completely self-unaware Trumpeteers who don't read their own posts apparently. Lulz. Does blurting out NPC in EVERY thread make you a bastion of independent thought? Fuck outta here, cuz.
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Biker wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:14 pm So tell us wise one, what would constitute a crisis at the border?
If large numbers of assylum seeking immigrants are showing up at the border then we should be increasing the resources and facilities needed to deal with and speed up the intake and possible deportation process. We shouldn't be sending thousands of troops down there to put up barbed wire and then sit around for the rest of the time.

At least the Gov of New Mexico consulted the people involved herself and determined that allocation of resources was not useful or warranted. Call it a "charade" or call it a "fake crisis". Makes no difference to me. Trump continues to lie about the nature of what's going on at the border on a daily basis simply to drum up support for the wall.
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Biker wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:28 pm
stymiegreen wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:23 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:14 pm So tell us wise one, what would constitute a crisis at the border?
If large numbers of assylum seeking immigrants are showing up at the border then we should be increasing the resources and facilities needed to deal with and speed up the intake and possible deportation process. We shouldn't be sending thousands of troops down there to put up barbed wire and then sit around for the rest of the time.

At least the Gov of New Mexico consulted the people involved herself and determined that allocation of resources was not useful or warranted. Call it a "charade" or call it a "fake crisis". Makes no difference to me. Trump continues to lie about the nature of what's going on at the border on a daily basis simply to drum up support for the wall.
So a crisis would constitute a FY quarter like we had in Q1 2017 and 2019?, the two highest by far during this decade? Or nah

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Then after Q1 17, according to your unaccredited chart, the rate sunk down to lower levels than were seen in the last 5 years by far. Did it cease to be a crisis then?

What part about sending resources and beefing up facilities to address upticks in assylum seeking immigrants at the border vs just sending troops to build barbed wire fences was hard to understand? That point stands regardless of what arbitrary point on the chart you pick to declare it a "crisis".
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The way for Donny to solve the problem is this: hire however many more processing agents it takes to rapidly sort the inevitable dubious claims of asylum. Have multiple staging areas set up at the problematic areas where seekers will be held until their claim is determined. The goal is the elimination of catch and release. Once catch and release is eliminated, and thus the option of going illegal is also removed, the problem will naturally mitigate. There is no 100% solution but there is no reason we can't be prepared when the next fake totally made up by conservatives caravan shows up to overwhelm our border resources. It's job creation, it's humane and it's effective. Everyone wins! Well, except the people trying to jump the process of course.
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Biker wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:48 pm
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And youve been telling us for weeks now that arrests at the border have been at record low numbers. The CBP stats state otherwise and thus youve been proven to be a liar.

Take your lies elsewhere, liar
Those are CBP stats you fucking moron. You should get a dementia check.
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Biker wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:51 pm
analhamster wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:50 pm
Biker wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:48 pm
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And youve been telling us for weeks now that arrests at the border have been at record low numbers. The CBP stats state otherwise and thus youve been proven to be a liar.

Take your lies elsewhere, liar
Those are CBP stats you fucking moron. You should get a dementia check.
Arrests per officer, liar, not arrests for trying to illegally cross
No, those would be total arrests for the month of march over two decades. It's the same if you look at arrests over each year on the same timescale, illegal crossings peaked in the year 2000.
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Suddenly trump gets elected and the lower numbers are a critical emergency. If you're a fucking retard.
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Biker wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:01 pm
analhamster wrote: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:54 pm They continue to pour in at ever reducing rates, and only a 2000 mile wall built over the next two decades can solve this immediate crisis that has been getting better for two decades. America must become the only country in the world with walled borders because nothing else works. Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Stats have proven we have seen great upticks, not ever reducing rates, liar.
There have been a few upticks over the exponential decay seen since the 2000 peak.
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So was it an emergency in 2000? Was it an emergency in 2004? Look at the graph you daft cunt, it's an emergency because trump needs to appeal to morons and you are one of those morons who will blindly repeat anything he says. Try to think for yourself.
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Biker wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:12 pm When youre talking numbers of 500k and more, thats an emergency, TediousFuhrer

Now walk back your lie
What lie? You mean when I did an impression of you ending with derrrrrrrr? I was referring to the same trend I'm still referring to, and showing you the same graphs I'm still showing you. There are upticks and downticks, I think that's kinda obvious no?

So your claim now is that there has been an emergency at the border since around 1975, and you just didn't notice until trump told you what to think? :lol:

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Biker wrote: Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:45 pm When we have numbers of 500kish being apprehended at the border, that in and of itself is a problem. We are no longer a nation if we simply process them and release them into the genpop with no guarantee that they comply. So yeah, your wish washy nonsense of 'beefing up facilities' rings very hollow to most Americans.

And not only that, if 500k are being stopped, how fucking many are getting in? Shouldnt we know that?
You come in and try to talk shit but you have a horrible grasp of data in general. You were told it was a crisis so now you are attempting to fit the charts into confirming what you wanted to believe anyway. I guess to a Trumper, every strategy but the simplistic "derrr...build the wall and der mexicans will pay for it!" is "wishy washy". Good luck with it.
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