2020 Candidates
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Re: 2020 Candidates
I did present something, you even agreed it showed a high probability trump colluded, but then you got scared and ran away back into your odd little defensive shell of pretending not to have a position on anything, or at least only positions so secret you can't reveal them. Like I've said before, I think it's pretty transparent. You like to pretend to be a smart guy, but you are actually a moron, and you know it. You know that engaging in a discussion exposes you, and that is why you cannot answer the question 'is it collusion to collude with the Russians'. What you fear is the follow up.
I'm not going to do another necro thread where you'll spend hours explaining why you won't answer anything, the fact that you can't answer anything is the point I am making. It is all that needs to be said. QED. Good day sir.
I'm not going to do another necro thread where you'll spend hours explaining why you won't answer anything, the fact that you can't answer anything is the point I am making. It is all that needs to be said. QED. Good day sir.
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Thanks again for admitting you failed to prove anything. You don't need to do another necro proves you wrong again thread. Waste of time for people to see that you're a phony. You think it's transparent because you like to make assumptions about the ending because you have no follow through. You're a pussy. It's ok. We all know it. You like to sabre rattle, but really you've got nothing.AnalHamster wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:52 pm I did present something, you even agreed it showed a high probability trump colluded, but then you got scared and ran away back into your odd little defensive shell of pretending not to have a position on anything, or at least only positions so secret you can't reveal them. Like I've said before, I think it's pretty transparent. You like to pretend to be a smart guy, but you are actually a moron, and you know it. You know that engaging in a discussion exposes you, and that is why you cannot answer the question 'is it collusion to collude with the Russians'. What you fear is the follow up.
I'm not going to do another necro thread where you'll spend hours explaining why you won't answer anything, the fact that you can't answer anything is the point I am making. It is all that needs to be said. QED. Good day sir.
My position is not a secret. I've never said "I have no position on anything." I said I'm not going to give it until I have proper information. Until I'm better informed. Why does that bother you? To have someone want to be properly informed on things? Like if I learn the truth, your whole world will crumble.
I never ran, you stopped presenting. The fact I don't agree with you in this instance, is your fault and your fault alone. You failed to provide the proper evidence to show your conclusion was correct. You let your narcissistic ego get in the way. Pride sucks dude. You should let go of it. What a pathetic person you are. Oh well. Like you said good day kiddo.
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Re: 2020 Candidates
Ive been saying it for years now: eventually somethings gotta give. Your radical wing and your moderates cannot coexist in the same party. One of you has to splinter off.
Democratic Leaders Willing to Risk Party Damage to Stop Bernie Sanders
https://dnyuz.com/2020/02/27/democratic ... e-sanders/
Democratic Leaders Willing to Risk Party Damage to Stop Bernie Sanders
https://dnyuz.com/2020/02/27/democratic ... e-sanders/
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Re: 2020 Candidates
A lot of them are starting to accept that Bernie will be the nominee. Aunt Nancy just said this week she'll support him.
With all the publicity about the convention, I'm not sure they can actually take it away from him at this point but Bloomberg, Biden and Warren are all saying they are going to the convention just in case. The poll I saw this morning said Bernie is the only one who beats Trump in a head / head. At some point they will realize this is the reality.
Krugman said in an interview he can support Bernie but he wishes he'd stop saying he is socialist. Pronounced he'll write multiple articles saying Bernie isn't a socialist even though Bernie keeps saying he is a socialist and many of his supporters support him because he's a socialist. It's pretty funny when you think about it.
With all the publicity about the convention, I'm not sure they can actually take it away from him at this point but Bloomberg, Biden and Warren are all saying they are going to the convention just in case. The poll I saw this morning said Bernie is the only one who beats Trump in a head / head. At some point they will realize this is the reality.
Krugman said in an interview he can support Bernie but he wishes he'd stop saying he is socialist. Pronounced he'll write multiple articles saying Bernie isn't a socialist even though Bernie keeps saying he is a socialist and many of his supporters support him because he's a socialist. It's pretty funny when you think about it.
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Re: 2020 Candidates
Without a Dem House and Senate Bernie will be cock blocked anyway.
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Biker supports THE PARTY OF NO
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Re: 2020 Candidates
NEWS — nearly 100 superdelegates tell @reidepstein and @llerer
that they would cast ballots for another candidate if @BernieSanders
doesn’t come to the DNC with more than 50% of the delegates, raising prospect of a messy convention.
that they would cast ballots for another candidate if @BernieSanders
doesn’t come to the DNC with more than 50% of the delegates, raising prospect of a messy convention.
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Re: 2020 Candidates
More proof democracy isn’t for the smelly unwashed masses.
Own it, losers.
Own it, losers.
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A brokered convention happens when no one has won outright, meaning a majority of delegates are there to vote against the guy with the most delegates. If a majority of the party don't want Bernie then him being selected would be an odd form of democracy.Charliesheen wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:45 pm More proof democracy isn’t for the smelly unwashed masses.
Own it, losers.
A lot of the democratic world uses ranked preference voting, which a brokered convention is a crude form of. You rank the candidates as 1st, 2nd, 3rd choice etc, and if whoever has the most 1st place votes doesn't have a majority, the bottom guy is knocked out and the people who voted for him have their 2nd choice votes counted, and so on until there is a majority for one candidate. That way someone who has a hard deck of support which is a minority of the party can't hijack it, like Trump and possibly Bernie, with an extreme agenda the majority of their party do not support. The dem party seems to be split around 60-40 in favour of the moderates, which is something that should result in a moderate candidate and would with ranked preference voting.
A few states are trying it this cycle, it should become the norm. It would cut the knees out from the more extreme members of both parties and drive things back toward the centre ground where most voters are.
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Technically, neither party really has to run a "fair" nomination process. They're just figuring out which candidate will run against the other party's nominated candidate(s).
Of course, if they had a process that did away with any pretense of fair voting for the eventually nominee, it'd probably cause a revolt and possible end of that particular party.
P.S. Historically, the nomination process for parties didn't resemble any kind of fair process. Groups of party bosses just blatantly chose who the candidates are. Some of that exists still, but it's well hidden from us slugs.
Of course, if they had a process that did away with any pretense of fair voting for the eventually nominee, it'd probably cause a revolt and possible end of that particular party.
P.S. Historically, the nomination process for parties didn't resemble any kind of fair process. Groups of party bosses just blatantly chose who the candidates are. Some of that exists still, but it's well hidden from us slugs.
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"The Democrats might be able to stop Sanders, but in doing so they would destroy their party's own electoral prospects," Robinson added. "It would be a completely reckless and irrational maneuver, and every sensible Democrat should oppose it."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/ ... ates-steal
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/ ... ates-steal
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Re: 2020 Candidates
Y'all can get the fuck outBiker wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:12 pmNonsense. Burying Sanders would bring the moderates back into the partyCaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:44 pm "The Democrats might be able to stop Sanders, but in doing so they would destroy their party's own electoral prospects," Robinson added. "It would be a completely reckless and irrational maneuver, and every sensible Democrat should oppose it."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/ ... ates-steal
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Re: 2020 Candidates
Both parties need the middle/independents to win (thought the Republicans need them even more).
A good candidate that can capture that middle has the best chance of beating Trump. And as in 2016, it's there for the taking. Trump's base is about 33%, and the rest he can't count on. Unless the Democrats hand them to him. Like nominating a fringe/radical lefty candidate like Sanders.
A good candidate that can capture that middle has the best chance of beating Trump. And as in 2016, it's there for the taking. Trump's base is about 33%, and the rest he can't count on. Unless the Democrats hand them to him. Like nominating a fringe/radical lefty candidate like Sanders.
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FSchmertz wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:45 pm Both parties need the middle/independents to win (thought the Republicans need them even more).
A good candidate that can capture that middle has the best chance of beating Trump. And as in 2016, it's there for the taking. Trump's base is about 33%, and the rest he can't count on. Unless the Democrats hand them to him. Like nominating a fringe/radical lefty candidate like Sanders.
Except there is a vast number of Americans out there who feel left out and underwater and the same old shit is not going to do. There is a reason Bernie is doing well. America is not working for a lot of people. All these "moderates" don't see there is a huge wave of discontent out there. It's not about free stuff. These people laugh about stock markets because they can hardly come up with the rent. 700 a month for health insurance? Nobody has that kind of money when they can barely afford a used car. It's a rigged game and there is going to be hell to pay.
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Re: 2020 Candidates
We'll see on TuesdayBiker wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:56 pmWe're in the majority, dippyCaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:25 pmY'all can get the fuck outBiker wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:12 pmNonsense. Burying Sanders would bring the moderates back into the partyCaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:44 pm "The Democrats might be able to stop Sanders, but in doing so they would destroy their party's own electoral prospects," Robinson added. "It would be a completely reckless and irrational maneuver, and every sensible Democrat should oppose it."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/ ... ates-steal
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Re: 2020 Candidates
Dow falls 1,191 points -- the most in history
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/27/investin ... index.html
This has got to be Trump's fault right? Or does he only get the credit when it goes up?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/27/investin ... index.html
This has got to be Trump's fault right? Or does he only get the credit when it goes up?
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Depends, did he create the virus and send it over from China? If so, then totally.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:30 pm Dow falls 1,191 points -- the most in history
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/27/investin ... index.html
This has got to be Trump's fault right? Or does he only get the credit when it goes up?
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Obama did it.necronomous wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:45 pmDepends, did he create the virus and send it over from China? If so, then totally.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:30 pm Dow falls 1,191 points -- the most in history
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/27/investin ... index.html
This has got to be Trump's fault right? Or does he only get the credit when it goes up?
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If you say soStapes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:23 amObama did it.necronomous wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:45 pmDepends, did he create the virus and send it over from China? If so, then totally.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:30 pm Dow falls 1,191 points -- the most in history
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/27/investin ... index.html
This has got to be Trump's fault right? Or does he only get the credit when it goes up?
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Re: 2020 Candidates
He's not wrong. Hillary didn't garner support from nowhere.CaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:01 pmWe'll see on TuesdayBiker wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:56 pmWe're in the majority, dippyCaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:25 pmY'all can get the fuck outBiker wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:12 pmNonsense. Burying Sanders would bring the moderates back into the partyCaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:44 pm "The Democrats might be able to stop Sanders, but in doing so they would destroy their party's own electoral prospects," Robinson added. "It would be a completely reckless and irrational maneuver, and every sensible Democrat should oppose it."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/ ... ates-steal
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Me and my ilk are not part of your traitorous GOP partyBiker wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:11 pmTime for you and your ilk to get the fuck out of my party. Youre making this slam dunk of an election anything butCaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:01 pmWe'll see on TuesdayBiker wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:56 pmWe're in the majority, dippyCaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:25 pmY'all can get the fuck outBiker wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:12 pmNonsense. Burying Sanders would bring the moderates back into the partyCaptQuint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:44 pm "The Democrats might be able to stop Sanders, but in doing so they would destroy their party's own electoral prospects," Robinson added. "It would be a completely reckless and irrational maneuver, and every sensible Democrat should oppose it."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/ ... ates-steal
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Re: 2020 Candidates
How is that relevant to Biker being a Republican?BigRedRetard wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:35 pmYou do realize you live in a state full of conservative democrats, right?
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