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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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Biker wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:01 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:50 pm On the bright side I've noticed that air travel is very cheap right now. I can fly to Jersey and back for $21 each way on spirit this week. No... I'm not going
Is Spirit like Southwest where its a cattle call for the seats and no first class?

Exactly what it is. Probably the worst flying experience you can endure.....but for 2 1/2 hours I can go from West Palm to Atlantic City and its a cake walk.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:50 pm On the bright side I've noticed that air travel is very cheap right now. I can fly to Jersey and back for $21 each way on spirit this week. No... I'm not going
I'm confused. Why would you fly from Jersey to get to Jersey, and why would you be surprised that you'd get a good price if you wanted to do that? ;)

P.S. Probably could fit all the passengers on that trip in Piper Cub
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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FSchmertz wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:52 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:50 pm On the bright side I've noticed that air travel is very cheap right now. I can fly to Jersey and back for $21 each way on spirit this week. No... I'm not going
I'm confused. Why would you fly from Jersey to get to Jersey, and why would you be surprised that you'd get a good price if you wanted to do that? ;)

P.S. Probably could fit all the passengers on that trip in Piper Cub
I moved to Port St Lucie Florida last year. No longer a Jersey guy. The price is from West Palm Beach to A.C.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:01 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:52 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:50 pm On the bright side I've noticed that air travel is very cheap right now. I can fly to Jersey and back for $21 each way on spirit this week. No... I'm not going
I'm confused. Why would you fly from Jersey to get to Jersey, and why would you be surprised that you'd get a good price if you wanted to do that? ;)

P.S. Probably could fit all the passengers on that trip in Piper Cub
I moved to Port St Lucie Florida last year. No longer a Jersey guy. The price is from West Palm Beach to A.C.
I'm thinking about going to Florida soon. How do you like it there?
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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FreakShowFanatic wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:08 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:01 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:52 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:50 pm On the bright side I've noticed that air travel is very cheap right now. I can fly to Jersey and back for $21 each way on spirit this week. No... I'm not going
I'm confused. Why would you fly from Jersey to get to Jersey, and why would you be surprised that you'd get a good price if you wanted to do that? ;)

P.S. Probably could fit all the passengers on that trip in Piper Cub
I moved to Port St Lucie Florida last year. No longer a Jersey guy. The price is from West Palm Beach to A.C.
I'm thinking about going to Florida soon. How do you like it there?

It is nice to wear shorts and a T shirt all year round....it is nice to see green all year round.

However, It is very busy. Tons of traffic and people and they seem to building more strip malls and apartment complexes on any land they can develop. Especially close to the coasts. I can only imagine what it's going to be like in 10 more years.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:15 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:08 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:01 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:52 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:50 pm On the bright side I've noticed that air travel is very cheap right now. I can fly to Jersey and back for $21 each way on spirit this week. No... I'm not going
I'm confused. Why would you fly from Jersey to get to Jersey, and why would you be surprised that you'd get a good price if you wanted to do that? ;)

P.S. Probably could fit all the passengers on that trip in Piper Cub
I moved to Port St Lucie Florida last year. No longer a Jersey guy. The price is from West Palm Beach to A.C.
I'm thinking about going to Florida soon. How do you like it there?

It is nice to wear shorts and a T shirt all year round....it is nice to see green all year round.

However, It is very busy. Tons of traffic and people and they seem to building more strip malls and apartment complexes on any land they can develop. Especially close to the coasts. I can only imagine what it's going to be like in 10 more years.
LOL, NJ congestion has hit the coasts of Florida now. However, Florida is a big state with plenty of rural areas. Relocate to central Florida if you want to stay away from the crowd. My wife has a few sisters that live in Fort Meade (Polk County) and it's nothing but farm land out there. Really nice people too.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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FreakShowFanatic wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:23 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:15 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:08 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:01 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:52 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:50 pm On the bright side I've noticed that air travel is very cheap right now. I can fly to Jersey and back for $21 each way on spirit this week. No... I'm not going
I'm confused. Why would you fly from Jersey to get to Jersey, and why would you be surprised that you'd get a good price if you wanted to do that? ;)

P.S. Probably could fit all the passengers on that trip in Piper Cub
I moved to Port St Lucie Florida last year. No longer a Jersey guy. The price is from West Palm Beach to A.C.
I'm thinking about going to Florida soon. How do you like it there?

It is nice to wear shorts and a T shirt all year round....it is nice to see green all year round.

However, It is very busy. Tons of traffic and people and they seem to building more strip malls and apartment complexes on any land they can develop. Especially close to the coasts. I can only imagine what it's going to be like in 10 more years.
LOL, NJ congestion has hit the coasts of Florida now. However, Florida is a big state with plenty of rural areas. Relocate to central Florida if you want to stay away from the crowd. My wife has a few sisters that live in Fort Meade (Polk County) and it's nothing but farm land out there. Really nice people too.

I'm a shore guy I like to be near the water. If I wanted to be in farmland Id move to ohio....lol.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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CaptQuint wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:03 pm
Biker wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:02 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:00 pm Wut posted in the UJ subreddit that he cannot log in here
Password issues?
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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Wut wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:37 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:03 pm
Biker wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:02 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:00 pm Wut posted in the UJ subreddit that he cannot log in here
Password issues?
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Biker wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:39 pm
Wut wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:37 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:03 pm
Biker wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:02 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:00 pm Wut posted in the UJ subreddit that he cannot log in here
Password issues?
Thanks guys, I cleared history and cookies and I'm back._
Sorry folks, I tried but he still figured it out. Maybe next time
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:34 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:23 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:15 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:08 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:01 pm
FSchmertz wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:52 pm I'm confused. Why would you fly from Jersey to get to Jersey, and why would you be surprised that you'd get a good price if you wanted to do that? ;)

P.S. Probably could fit all the passengers on that trip in Piper Cub
I moved to Port St Lucie Florida last year. No longer a Jersey guy. The price is from West Palm Beach to A.C.
I'm thinking about going to Florida soon. How do you like it there?

It is nice to wear shorts and a T shirt all year round....it is nice to see green all year round.

However, It is very busy. Tons of traffic and people and they seem to building more strip malls and apartment complexes on any land they can develop. Especially close to the coasts. I can only imagine what it's going to be like in 10 more years.
LOL, NJ congestion has hit the coasts of Florida now. However, Florida is a big state with plenty of rural areas. Relocate to central Florida if you want to stay away from the crowd. My wife has a few sisters that live in Fort Meade (Polk County) and it's nothing but farm land out there. Really nice people too.

I'm a shore guy I like to be near the water. If I wanted to be in farmland Id move to ohio....lol.
They have nothing but water in central Florida as well. Our neighbor has one of those platoon boats and took us out on like 5 big lakes that were all connected together. Check it out on Google Maps to see all the water, caution they have lots of alligators too. At least you won't get attacked by a shark, where Florida is the shark bite capital of the world.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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FreakShowFanatic wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:44 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:34 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:23 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:15 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:08 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:01 pm

I moved to Port St Lucie Florida last year. No longer a Jersey guy. The price is from West Palm Beach to A.C.
I'm thinking about going to Florida soon. How do you like it there?

It is nice to wear shorts and a T shirt all year round....it is nice to see green all year round.

However, It is very busy. Tons of traffic and people and they seem to building more strip malls and apartment complexes on any land they can develop. Especially close to the coasts. I can only imagine what it's going to be like in 10 more years.
LOL, NJ congestion has hit the coasts of Florida now. However, Florida is a big state with plenty of rural areas. Relocate to central Florida if you want to stay away from the crowd. My wife has a few sisters that live in Fort Meade (Polk County) and it's nothing but farm land out there. Really nice people too.

I'm a shore guy I like to be near the water. If I wanted to be in farmland Id move to ohio....lol.
They have nothing but water in central Florida as well. Our neighbor has one of those platoon boats and took us out on like 5 big lakes that were all connected together. Check it out on Google Maps to see all the water, caution they have lots of alligators too. At least you won't get attacked by a shark, where Florida is the shark bite capital of the world.
Shark? :jaws:
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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CaptQuint wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:49 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:44 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:34 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:23 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:15 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:08 pm

I'm thinking about going to Florida soon. How do you like it there?

It is nice to wear shorts and a T shirt all year round....it is nice to see green all year round.

However, It is very busy. Tons of traffic and people and they seem to building more strip malls and apartment complexes on any land they can develop. Especially close to the coasts. I can only imagine what it's going to be like in 10 more years.
LOL, NJ congestion has hit the coasts of Florida now. However, Florida is a big state with plenty of rural areas. Relocate to central Florida if you want to stay away from the crowd. My wife has a few sisters that live in Fort Meade (Polk County) and it's nothing but farm land out there. Really nice people too.

I'm a shore guy I like to be near the water. If I wanted to be in farmland Id move to ohio....lol.
They have nothing but water in central Florida as well. Our neighbor has one of those platoon boats and took us out on like 5 big lakes that were all connected together. Check it out on Google Maps to see all the water, caution they have lots of alligators too. At least you won't get attacked by a shark, where Florida is the shark bite capital of the world.
Shark? :jaws:
Sorry Quint, I think they're mostly those pesky little bull sharks and not the huge great whites you're looking for.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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Biker wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:57 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:44 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:34 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:23 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:15 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:08 pm

I'm thinking about going to Florida soon. How do you like it there?

It is nice to wear shorts and a T shirt all year round....it is nice to see green all year round.

However, It is very busy. Tons of traffic and people and they seem to building more strip malls and apartment complexes on any land they can develop. Especially close to the coasts. I can only imagine what it's going to be like in 10 more years.
LOL, NJ congestion has hit the coasts of Florida now. However, Florida is a big state with plenty of rural areas. Relocate to central Florida if you want to stay away from the crowd. My wife has a few sisters that live in Fort Meade (Polk County) and it's nothing but farm land out there. Really nice people too.

I'm a shore guy I like to be near the water. If I wanted to be in farmland Id move to ohio....lol.
They have nothing but water in central Florida as well. Our neighbor has one of those platoon boats and took us out on like 5 big lakes that were all connected together. Check it out on Google Maps to see all the water, caution they have lots of alligators too. At least you won't get attacked by a shark, where Florida is the shark bite capital of the world.
Dude, he lives there. Do you think youre really providing him with any real insight FFS? My fucking word
BTW, I also have a house down there and have spent a number of months in total there too. My house is in central Florida. It's a big state dude, but I know you have problems dealing with the fact that there are many different types of places, even in a huge state like Florida. In other words, moron, he knows about the coast of Florida, but it's obvious he has no idea about what central Florida has to offer. Damn, you're slow.

The funny thing is that I provide more insight on this board than you ever dreamed of. OK, you're a day trader and a stock market expert. Let me know when I should put my money back in the market. OK, thx. I doubt I would listen to a fool like you though. :roll:
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Biker wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:39 pm
Wut wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:37 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:03 pm
Biker wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:02 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:00 pm Wut posted in the UJ subreddit that he cannot log in here
Password issues?
Thanks guys, I cleared history and cookies and I'm back._
Sorry folks, I tried but he still figured it out. Maybe next time
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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FreakShowFanatic wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:07 pm
Biker wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:57 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:44 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:34 pm
FreakShowFanatic wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:23 pm
Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:15 pm


It is nice to wear shorts and a T shirt all year round....it is nice to see green all year round.

However, It is very busy. Tons of traffic and people and they seem to building more strip malls and apartment complexes on any land they can develop. Especially close to the coasts. I can only imagine what it's going to be like in 10 more years.
LOL, NJ congestion has hit the coasts of Florida now. However, Florida is a big state with plenty of rural areas. Relocate to central Florida if you want to stay away from the crowd. My wife has a few sisters that live in Fort Meade (Polk County) and it's nothing but farm land out there. Really nice people too.

I'm a shore guy I like to be near the water. If I wanted to be in farmland Id move to ohio....lol.
They have nothing but water in central Florida as well. Our neighbor has one of those platoon boats and took us out on like 5 big lakes that were all connected together. Check it out on Google Maps to see all the water, caution they have lots of alligators too. At least you won't get attacked by a shark, where Florida is the shark bite capital of the world.
Dude, he lives there. Do you think youre really providing him with any real insight FFS? My fucking word
BTW, I also have a house down there and have spent a number of months in total there too. My house is in central Florida. It's a big state dude, but I know you have problems dealing with the fact that there are many different types of places, even in a huge state like Florida. In other words, moron, he knows about the coast of Florida, but it's obvious he has no idea about what central Florida has to offer. Damn, you're slow.

The funny thing is that I provide more insight on this board than you ever dreamed of. OK, you're a day trader and a stock market expert. Let me know when I should put my money back in the market. OK, thx. I doubt I would listen to a fool like you though. :roll:


I've been coming to Florida for over 20 years..lol My family has been here since 1990. I've got a cousin in Ocala. I've been up, down, and across this state so many time I lost count. So yes I know what central florida looks like and I'm not really interested. If I wanted to live inland somewhere near lakes I probably would have picked Georgia. Close to lakes and mountains and good motorcycle riding.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus

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WestTexasCrude wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:08 pm


Hey Stapes, you may not know this but there are two different bodies of sea water in Florida. On the eastern side, you have the Atlantic ocean and on the western side of Florida there is the Gulf of Mexico.
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Biker wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:33 pm
All this hoarding is really bringing out the worst in us
i went in Home Depot this morning to get a 2 foot piece of 1 inch pvc and the parking lot was packed. Most everyone was buying any kind of cleaning supply they could get their hands on. i guess they have left the grocery stores and walmart and heard the contractor supply places have that kind of stuff. First quarter earnings for Fabulosa should be off the charts.
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Flumper wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:41 pm
Biker wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:33 pm
All this hoarding is really bringing out the worst in us
i went in Home Depot this morning to get a 2 foot piece of 1 inch pvc and the parking lot was packed. Most everyone was buying any kind of cleaning supply they could get their hands on. i guess they have left the grocery stores and walmart and heard the contractor supply places have that kind of stuff. First quarter earnings for Fabulosa should be off the charts.
I know a person who owns 4 full size school buses and she was required to disinfect the insides of them and she couldn't find enough supplies to do the job. School is now cancelled but their are legit reasons for bulk purchases of this shit
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Is Stapes the editor of this paper?
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Flumper wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:57 pm
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Is Stapes the editor of this paper?
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Flumper wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:57 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:47 pm Image
Is Stapes the editor of this paper?

I don't think I've said anything other than it has the potential to be pretty devastating. You can stick your head in the sand and say its just the flu but your not really understanding what is going on. There is only x amount of cases today so its no big deal right? Well this thing has just started so if in 2 weeks the hospitals are filled to capacity will you still be posting your stupid ignorant shit?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... lized.html

America's hospitals will be overrun with coronavirus in just EIGHT DAYS: Obama's Medicare boss issues dire warning as doctors say as many as 500,000 are already infected and 10 MILLION will need care

Andy Slavitt, former Acting Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, issued the dire warning on Twitter on Saturday
There are only 790,000 hospital beds 100,000 ICU beds total in all of the hospitals across the country

Dr. Marty Makary warned people not to believe the current figures that only 2,200 are infected

He says the true number is likely far more and that as many as half a million people already have it

Dr. Makary urged people to be more vigilant said 'we're about to experience the worst epidemic since polio'

Johns Hopkins predicts 9.6million people will need to be hospitalized and 3million will need ICU care

Doctors and nurses fear the hospital system, which is already overrun by the flu season, may buckle

In Italy, doctors are having to choose between critically ill people to treat because resources are short

Coronavirus symptoms: what are they and should you see a doctor?
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Stapes wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:50 pm I don't think I've said anything other than it has the potential to be pretty devastating. You can stick your head in the sand and say its just the flu but your not really understanding what is going on. There is only x amount of cases today so its no big deal right? Well this thing has just started so if in 2 weeks the hospitals are filled to capacity will you still be posting your stupid ignorant shit?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... lized.html

America's hospitals will be overrun with coronavirus in just EIGHT DAYS: Obama's Medicare boss issues dire warning as doctors say as many as 500,000 are already infected and 10 MILLION will need care

Andy Slavitt, former Acting Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, issued the dire warning on Twitter on Saturday
There are only 790,000 hospital beds 100,000 ICU beds total in all of the hospitals across the country

Dr. Marty Makary warned people not to believe the current figures that only 2,200 are infected

He says the true number is likely far more and that as many as half a million people already have it

Dr. Makary urged people to be more vigilant said 'we're about to experience the worst epidemic since polio'

Johns Hopkins predicts 9.6million people will need to be hospitalized and 3million will need ICU care

Doctors and nurses fear the hospital system, which is already overrun by the flu season, may buckle

In Italy, doctors are having to choose between critically ill people to treat because resources are short

Coronavirus symptoms: what are they and should you see a doctor?
what in the fuck? do you read what you write? actually, what you just wrote there is probably worse than the numbskull put on the front page of that magazine.

what point are you actually trying to make? I know you are spreading as much doom and gloom as you can, but what is your real point. What do you think we need to be doing as a nation? I know you like to spout off the worst statistics you can find, but put all that bullshit aside and just cut to the chase. what do you think should be done?
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