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Re: Liar-in-Chief to give a Speech to the Nation on Tuesday

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Antknot wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:54 am
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Wut wrote: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:55 pm

So you say Democrats have problems with math? Seems some "Democrats" have difficulty with reading comprehension.
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Given both parties' dishonesty over intent to address illegal border crossing. It can be argued that this is an emergency now, becasie one branch of government is willing to act in a manner that serves the vast majority of legal residents, not the juiced in, safely tucked in behind its own compound class.
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Charliesheen wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:12 am Given both parties' dishonesty over intent to address illegal border crossing. It can be argued that this is an emergency now, becasie one branch of government is willing to act in a manner that serves the vast majority of legal residents, not the juiced in, safely tucked in behind its own compound class.
What a cop out, so it wasn't an emergency 6 weeks ago? Were both parties honest 6 8 or 52 weeks ago? What has changed?
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Charliesheen wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:12 am Given both parties' dishonesty over intent to address illegal border crossing. It can be argued that this is an emergency now, becasie one branch of government is willing to act in a manner that serves the vast majority of legal residents, not the juiced in, safely tucked in behind its own compound class.
The wall is not an actual solution to anything, it's a campaign slogan. Trump's incompetent admin are sitting on over a billion in already appropriated funding for actual solutions.
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Charliesheen wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:12 am Given both parties' dishonesty over intent to address illegal border crossing. It can be argued that this is an emergency now, becasie one branch of government is willing to act in a manner that serves the vast majority of legal residents, not the juiced in, safely tucked in behind its own compound class.
Are you talking about the one party being the Democrats being willing to discuss effective methods of controlling illegal immigration?
wut?
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Antknot wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:54 am
Reservoir Dog wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:06 am
Wut wrote: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:55 pm

So you say Democrats have problems with math? Seems some "Democrats" have difficulty with reading comprehension.
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Trump's fantasy won't do either anytime soon.
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Biker wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:43 pm So pretty much we're at an acceptable level of illegal immigration. Amirite?
You're at a level of illegal immigration that won't be altered by deciding to build a big wall over the next 20 years. Both parties support measures to actually reduce illegal immigration, trump has already appropriated funding he isn't spending to do just that.
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Biker wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:10 pm
analhamster wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:06 pm
Biker wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:43 pm So pretty much we're at an acceptable level of illegal immigration. Amirite?
You're at a level of illegal immigration that won't be altered by deciding to build a big wall over the next 20 years. Both parties support measures to actually reduce illegal immigration, trump has already appropriated funding he isn't spending to do just that.
What if we called it a fence? That seems to be respectable enough for many Dems.
Nope, that's another trump lie you've gobbled down with his cum.
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Another article by the same guy

These Rural Panhandle Towns Should be Shrinking. But Thanks to Immigrants, They’re Booming.
https://www.texasobserver.org/these-rur ... e-booming/
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Trump already tried calling it a fence, in between saying it was definitely still a wall, you delusional trumpcuck. You should try reading your own links.
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A physical wall and not a physical wall; directly paid for by Mexico and indirectly paid for by Mexico; he meant it literally and not literally; want a wall (maybe physical maybe not) regardless of who pays for it; the wall pays for itself.

They think of of this simultaneously. Must be fucking exhausting.
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Biker wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:14 pm
analhamster wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:08 pm
Trump already tried calling it a fence, in between saying it was definitely still a wall, you delusional trumpcuck. You should try reading your own links.
Read the quote, dimwit
During a Monday interview with “Fox and Friends,” Democratic Senator Chris Coons claimed to see light at the end of the government shutdown tunnel. In recent weeks, President Trump had taken to calling his “big, beautiful” border wall a “steel slat barrier” — a step toward compromise, Coons said. “I am someone who is willing to see more border fencing … and I do think his moving towards steel slats rather than concrete wall, if it holds, is important,”
Read the full article you mind numbingly tedious moron. You're cherry picking one senator who still doesn't agree with your contention and ignoring others saying the exact opposite. When did you get this dumb?
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It's amazing how no democrats and very few conservative lawmakers aren't jumping up and down to spend political capital and billions of tax dollars to make good on Trumps cockamamie campaign promise!
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Biker wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:26 pm
analhamster wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:16 pm
Biker wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:14 pm

Read the quote, dimwit

Read the full article you mind numbingly tedious moron. You're cherry picking one senator who still doesn't agree with your contention and ignoring others saying the exact opposite. When did you get this dumb?
Its about the shift, you stupid cunt. Two months ago, not a single Dim was breaking down the differences between steel and concrete, fence v wall. Now they are.
It's not a shift, fuckwit, even trump's outgoing chief of staff admitted they'd dropped the concrete idea. Shit even trump admitted it at one point, it's just not a practical solution. Coons is not in favour of 2000 miles of pointless wall, dems are not in favour of open borders. You are such a moronic partisan hack you have no idea what reality is and cannot comprehend the articles you yourself choose to post.
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I'm just enjoying the rough and tumble of debate after the hiatus, and frankly you seem dumber than usual.
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Re: Liar-in-Chief to give a Speech to the Nation on Tuesday

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Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigr ... ed-n956856


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Stapes wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:38 pm Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigr ... ed-n956856


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not to mention, dug under, or climbed over.
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Biker wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:27 pm
captquint wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:20 pm It's amazing how no democrats and very few conservative lawmakers aren't jumping up and down to spend political capital and billions of tax dollars to make good on Trumps cockamamie campaign promise!
They both serves their masters. Its not that surprising at all
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Biker wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:50 pm
B-Tender wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:45 pm
Stapes wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:38 pm Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigr ... ed-n956856


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not to mention, dug under, or climbed over.
You do understand its not a Ron Popeil 'Set it and forget it' type thing, right?
I'd bet I know more than most here the stratagies employed by Border Patrol.
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B-Tender wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:45 pm
Stapes wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:38 pm Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigr ... ed-n956856


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not to mention, dug under, or climbed over.
You can get a pretty powerful drone for 200 bucks these days, but passing through to a team the other side would be the simplest. The hardcore traffickers don't use the open border routes much for anything anyway, except weed which is low value density, and in the process of being legalised. The good stuff comes in via the ports in some very ingenious ways.
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Biker wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:56 pm
B-Tender wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:53 pm I'd bet I know more than most here the stratagies employed by Border Patrol.
Im sure you do, but does a physical barrier, in conjunction with other measures, slow the illegal crossings?
Well duh, that's why there are physical barriers where there aren't natural barriers having the same effect. What there isn't is 2000 miles of barrier with zero consideration given to whether any barrier is necessary there or how much it will cost to build or maintain.
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analhamster wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:56 pm
B-Tender wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:45 pm
Stapes wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:38 pm Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigr ... ed-n956856


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not to mention, dug under, or climbed over.
You can get a pretty powerful drone for 200 bucks these days, but passing through to a team the other side would be the simplest. The hardcore traffickers don't use the open border routes much for anything anyway, except weed which is low value density, and in the process of being legalised. The good stuff comes in via the ports in some very ingenious ways.
Most of the weed is being grown on this side now.
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Biker wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:56 pm
B-Tender wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:53 pm I'd bet I know more than most here the stratagies employed by Border Patrol.
Im sure you do, but does a physical barrier, in conjunction with other measures, slow the illegal crossings?
The pressure sensors and thermal imaging are on the US side and are only triggered once they cross. More use of technology and manpower is a much more effective way of patrolling for illegal immigrants. As far as drugs and other contraband, those are coming through our ports of entry.
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Biker wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:50 pm
B-Tender wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:47 pm
Biker wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:56 pm

Im sure you do, but does a physical barrier, in conjunction with other measures, slow the illegal crossings?
The pressure sensors and thermal imaging are on the US side and are only triggered once they cross. More use of technology and manpower is a much more effective way of patrolling for illegal immigrants. As far as drugs and other contraband, those are coming through our ports of entry.
But its not really an either or thing, is it? Why cant we have all of the above, unless of course, we want some illegals to filter through?
Limited resources. In addition to the wall just being a dumb idea. Why not a wall plus a unicorn hunting squad with fast attack helicopters dedicated solely to the eradication of unicorns? Their horns are made from 95-98% heroin.
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If Democrats offered 5 billion to be spent on speeding up adjudications, electronic surveillance, and other measures, would the Trumpets accept it in lieu of a wall?
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