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Trump Fansite The Federalist Hits New Low: Telling People to Get Infected With Coronavirus

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Post by CaptQuint » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:44 am

Conservative website The Federalist has positioned itself in the coronavirus era as the right’s leading voice of COVID-19 skepticism, with its writers seemingly on a reckless campaign across the internet and television to downplay the pandemic’s potential impact and lethality.

The right-wing outlet’s coronavirus coverage hit an astonishing low on Wednesday when Twitter temporarily locked The Federalist’s account after it posted an article by a self-described dermatologist proposing that people deliberately infect themselves with the virus.

In his article, titled “How Medical ‘Chickenpox Parties’ Could Turn The Tide Of The Wuhan Virus,” Douglas Perednia made a bizarre push for getting voluntarily infected with the disease at gatherings in an attempt to develop immunity—a scheme he claimed would “turn the tide” against the pandemic.

Twitter first added a warning to the tweet describing the article as “potentially harmful or associated with a violation of Twitter’s Terms of Service.” Ultimately, the social-media site briefly locked The Federalist’s account for posting the story on Wednesday afternoon.

A Twitter spokesperson confirmed that The Federalist’s account was temporarily locked for violating the site’s rules about COVID-19. Meanwhile, Vice reported that while The Federalist described Perednia as a physician, he’s not actually licensed to practice medicine in his state.

This isn’t the first time The Federalist has pushed dangerous ideas about the coronavirus. Over the past few weeks, the site—which, upon its founding in 2013, was positioned as a thinking man’s conservative website before an abrupt pro-Trump pivot in 2016—has reinvented itself as a leading skeptic of the public-health consensus on the virus.

On Monday, for example, Federalist writer Jonathan Ashbach ran a cost-benefit analysis on mass coronavirus death and considered “whether the nation might be better off letting a few hundred thousand people die.”

Ashbach wrote: “More is at stake than lives and money: namely freedom.”

That same day, Federalist contributor Helen Raleigh counseled not “freaking out” about the disease, praising boomers who refuse to change their lifestyles because of the pandemic, despite their generation being one of the most at-risk of succumbing to the virus. The headline: “Why Your Parents Aren’t Idiots For Not Freaking Out About Coronavirus Like You Are.”

The Federalist’s co-founder Sean Davis lamented Tuesday on Twitter that the rest of the country should not have to lock down over virus fears simply because New York City—an epicenter of the virus’ stateside spread—is a “filthy, disease-ridden dystopia.” The city should be cut off from the rest of the country, Davis advised, while other states and cities should “get back to work.”





On Monday, senior contributor Ben Weingarten claimed on One America News—a right-wing outlet that would make even Fox News blush with its conspiratorial pro-Trump musings—that Italy has inflated the pandemic’s death toll by counting anyone who died while suffering from coronavirus as a coronavirus fatality, even if they already suffered from potentially lethal pre-conditions.




The Federalist didn’t respond to a request for comment.

Still, Perednia’s idea for virus parties marked a new level for contrarian disinformation for the site. The self-styled doc, whose previous writings include a hamster-ownership guide called Think Like a Hamster!, compared his coronavirus gathering idea to the now-outdated practice of infecting children in a group at “chickenpox parties.” (Perednia failed to note that the Centers for Disease Control now strongly advises against such deliberate exposure events.)

Perednia laid out an elaborate regime he’s invented for people deliberately infecting themselves with the disease, including the creation of “safe infection sites” and certificates of coronavirus immunity. After getting deliberately infected, Perednia proposed that people should then quarantine in hotels or aboard cruise ships.

Citing the example of Florida spring breakers ignoring public-health warnings—a situation that has the potential to escalate the virus’ spread to at-risk populations—Perednia wrote that he could envision deliberately getting infected with friends “becoming a social activity.”

Perednia ultimately claimed his voluntary infection scheme would boost the economy in the pandemic. “Economic activity would recover far faster and at a lower cost than would otherwise be possible,” he wrote.

Perednia did not cite any experts to support his plan, which relied on the still-unproven idea that everyone who contracts the virus develops immunity to it.

Despite dismissing the novel coronavirus risks and flirting with the idea of deliberate infection, The Federalist has managed to publish some useful COVID-19 content: On Monday, the site recommended a list of church hymns to sing during plagues.

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Post by Biker » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:40 am

Sounds like they’re advocating for the Johnson\UK policy, which appears to be working

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Post by AnalHamster » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:45 am

Reasonable enough a few weeks ago, for people responsible enough to properly self isolate afterwards. Now though, we're heading to overrun hospitals in a week or two, when ten percent or so of infected will really need them. Very bad idea to catch it now. Your next window is in a month or so when capacity has surged and the first peak has tailed off due to the extreme measures.

Antivaxxers and conspiracy nuts should go ahead and try to get it now though, in just saying not to because I'm an agent of the Dem hoax.

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Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:40 am
Sounds like they’re advocating for the Johnson\UK policy, which appears to be working
You mean the policy that has already failed and been abandoned in favor of an order to stay home? Yeah turns out it was a bad idea because the thing is spreading too quickly and too high a proportion need ICU care. We'll be following Italy and Spain in a week or two, and it'll be worse over there.

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Post by Stapes » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:06 am

Biker is never right about anything. he just feels the need to say up when you say down and Black when you say white.
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Post by Biker » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:58 am

AnalHamster wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:49 am
Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:40 am
Sounds like they’re advocating for the Johnson\UK policy, which appears to be working
You mean the policy that has already failed and been abandoned in favor of an order to stay home? Yeah turns out it was a bad idea because the thing is spreading too quickly and too high a proportion need ICU care. We'll be following Italy and Spain in a week or two, and it'll be worse over there.
Is that why the U.K. has 9500 cases and 500 deaths while the US has 68k cases with 1050 deaths?

How come you fucks weren’t prepared and trained enough to handle this?

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Post by AnalHamster » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:46 am

Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:58 am
AnalHamster wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:49 am
Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:40 am
Sounds like they’re advocating for the Johnson\UK policy, which appears to be working
You mean the policy that has already failed and been abandoned in favor of an order to stay home? Yeah turns out it was a bad idea because the thing is spreading too quickly and too high a proportion need ICU care. We'll be following Italy and Spain in a week or two, and it'll be worse over there.
Is that why the U.K. has 9500 cases and 500 deaths while the US has 68k cases with 1050 deaths?

How come you fucks weren’t prepared and trained enough to handle this?
Partly, mostly it was a slow and inadequate response meaning only severe symptoms were getting tested. Millions of tests will be coming, raising the case number. Are you really still thinking the US isn't following along the same curve? We're all just a couple of weeks behind Italy, and the US is in a worse position to deal with it.

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Post by Biker » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:54 pm

AnalHamster wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:46 am
Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:58 am
AnalHamster wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:49 am
Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:40 am
Sounds like they’re advocating for the Johnson\UK policy, which appears to be working
You mean the policy that has already failed and been abandoned in favor of an order to stay home? Yeah turns out it was a bad idea because the thing is spreading too quickly and too high a proportion need ICU care. We'll be following Italy and Spain in a week or two, and it'll be worse over there.
Is that why the U.K. has 9500 cases and 500 deaths while the US has 68k cases with 1050 deaths?

How come you fucks weren’t prepared and trained enough to handle this?
Partly, mostly it was a slow and inadequate response meaning only severe symptoms were getting tested. Millions of tests will be coming, raising the case number. Are you really still thinking the US isn't following along the same curve? We're all just a couple of weeks behind Italy, and the US is in a worse position to deal with it.
Actually, the US is the most prepared nation on the planet for a pandemic

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Post by DandyDon » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:41 pm

Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:54 pm
AnalHamster wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:46 am
Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:58 am
AnalHamster wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:49 am
Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:40 am
Sounds like they’re advocating for the Johnson\UK policy, which appears to be working
You mean the policy that has already failed and been abandoned in favor of an order to stay home? Yeah turns out it was a bad idea because the thing is spreading too quickly and too high a proportion need ICU care. We'll be following Italy and Spain in a week or two, and it'll be worse over there.
Is that why the U.K. has 9500 cases and 500 deaths while the US has 68k cases with 1050 deaths?

How come you fucks weren’t prepared and trained enough to handle this?
Partly, mostly it was a slow and inadequate response meaning only severe symptoms were getting tested. Millions of tests will be coming, raising the case number. Are you really still thinking the US isn't following along the same curve? We're all just a couple of weeks behind Italy, and the US is in a worse position to deal with it.
Actually, the US is the most prepared nation on the planet for a pandemic

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Even #1 ranked teams lose, and they never imagined Trump would be head coach.


A pandemic playbook completed in 2016 provided a step by step list of priorities, tactics and key policy decisions to help drive the governments response to future threats. Under the Trump administration, it just sat on a shelf.

It even specifically mentions coronaviruses as Tier 1 pathogens, but I guess no one took the time to fit it on a handful of colorful flash cards.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/2 ... cil-149285

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Post by Biker » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:51 pm

DandyDon wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:41 pm
Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:54 pm
AnalHamster wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:46 am
Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:58 am
AnalHamster wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:49 am
Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:40 am
Sounds like they’re advocating for the Johnson\UK policy, which appears to be working
You mean the policy that has already failed and been abandoned in favor of an order to stay home? Yeah turns out it was a bad idea because the thing is spreading too quickly and too high a proportion need ICU care. We'll be following Italy and Spain in a week or two, and it'll be worse over there.
Is that why the U.K. has 9500 cases and 500 deaths while the US has 68k cases with 1050 deaths?

How come you fucks weren’t prepared and trained enough to handle this?
Partly, mostly it was a slow and inadequate response meaning only severe symptoms were getting tested. Millions of tests will be coming, raising the case number. Are you really still thinking the US isn't following along the same curve? We're all just a couple of weeks behind Italy, and the US is in a worse position to deal with it.
Actually, the US is the most prepared nation on the planet for a pandemic

Image

Even #1 ranked teams lose, and they never imagined Trump would be head coach.


A pandemic playbook completed in 2016 provided a step by step list of priorities, tactics and key policy decisions to help drive the governments response to future threats. Under the Trump administration, it just sat on a shelf.

It even specifically mentions coronaviruses as Tier 1 pathogens, but I guess no one took the time to fit it on a handful of colorful flash cards.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/2 ... cil-149285
Oh, you think we're losing? How adorable :lol:

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Post by DandyDon » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:25 pm

Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:51 pm
DandyDon wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:41 pm
Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:54 pm
AnalHamster wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:46 am
Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:58 am
AnalHamster wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:49 am


You mean the policy that has already failed and been abandoned in favor of an order to stay home? Yeah turns out it was a bad idea because the thing is spreading too quickly and too high a proportion need ICU care. We'll be following Italy and Spain in a week or two, and it'll be worse over there.
Is that why the U.K. has 9500 cases and 500 deaths while the US has 68k cases with 1050 deaths?

How come you fucks weren’t prepared and trained enough to handle this?
Partly, mostly it was a slow and inadequate response meaning only severe symptoms were getting tested. Millions of tests will be coming, raising the case number. Are you really still thinking the US isn't following along the same curve? We're all just a couple of weeks behind Italy, and the US is in a worse position to deal with it.
Actually, the US is the most prepared nation on the planet for a pandemic

Image

Even #1 ranked teams lose, and they never imagined Trump would be head coach.


A pandemic playbook completed in 2016 provided a step by step list of priorities, tactics and key policy decisions to help drive the governments response to future threats. Under the Trump administration, it just sat on a shelf.

It even specifically mentions coronaviruses as Tier 1 pathogens, but I guess no one took the time to fit it on a handful of colorful flash cards.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/2 ... cil-149285
Oh, you think we're losing? How adorable :lol:
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/posting from home on my 6th day of self quarantine. I couldn't even get tested at the local hospital because I didn't meet 'the criteria', even though I am sick as hell, fever and chills, coughing, and have COPD.

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Post by DandyDon » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:31 pm

My niece on the wifes side was in the Bahamas with her sorority for spring break. She and 3-4 other girls became very sick several days after getting home. USC sent them to the hospital and then quarantined them off campus until they could be tested. It was 11 days ago when the tests were supposed to be done, but none yet.

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Post by AnalHamster » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:51 pm

Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:54 pm
AnalHamster wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:46 am
Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:58 am
AnalHamster wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:49 am
Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:40 am
Sounds like they’re advocating for the Johnson\UK policy, which appears to be working
You mean the policy that has already failed and been abandoned in favor of an order to stay home? Yeah turns out it was a bad idea because the thing is spreading too quickly and too high a proportion need ICU care. We'll be following Italy and Spain in a week or two, and it'll be worse over there.
Is that why the U.K. has 9500 cases and 500 deaths while the US has 68k cases with 1050 deaths?

How come you fucks weren’t prepared and trained enough to handle this?
Partly, mostly it was a slow and inadequate response meaning only severe symptoms were getting tested. Millions of tests will be coming, raising the case number. Are you really still thinking the US isn't following along the same curve? We're all just a couple of weeks behind Italy, and the US is in a worse position to deal with it.
Actually, the US is the most prepared nation on the planet for a pandemic
Maybe back when the government was fully staffed and not led by an incompetent clown but even then you had 12 million illegals who will avoid treatment, a healthcare system that would bankrupt millions if they needed it, and millions who lack sick pay cover. It's going to be a wildfire over there, even before you installed such a grossly incompetent potus who caused a brain drain from the agencies that need to deal with it.

You'll be seeing this over a timescale of just a few weeks, at which point I shall mock you.

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Post by B-Tender » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:55 pm

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Post by Biker » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:57 pm

[quote=AnalHamster post_id=91744 time=1585245069 user_id=105
Maybe back when the government was fully staffed and not led by an incompetent clown
[/quote]

The study was completed in 2019, dumbfuck

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Post by Biker » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:59 pm

DandyDon wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:25 pm
posting from home on my 6th day of self quarantine. I couldn't even get tested at the local hospital because I didn't meet 'the criteria', even though I am sick as hell, fever and chills, coughing, and have COPD.
Keep on fighting, Don. You got this shit

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Post by B-Tender » Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:02 pm

Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:59 pm
DandyDon wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:25 pm
posting from home on my 6th day of self quarantine. I couldn't even get tested at the local hospital because I didn't meet 'the criteria', even though I am sick as hell, fever and chills, coughing, and have COPD.
Keep on fighting, Don. You got this shit
This.

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Post by AnalHamster » Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:52 pm

B-Tender wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:55 pm
This thread has the makings of a potential avatar bet.
No point betting a welcher.

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Post by Biker » Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:38 pm

AnalHamster wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:52 pm
B-Tender wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:55 pm
This thread has the makings of a potential avatar bet.
No point betting when I want to change the rules midway through the bet

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Post by AnalHamster » Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:57 pm

Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:38 pm
AnalHamster wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:52 pm
B-Tender wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:55 pm
This thread has the makings of a potential avatar bet.
No point betting when I want to change the rules midway through the bet
I'm not proposing any rule change, just pointing out that you continuing to deny that you understand the MCAS system was a major factor in both crashes, despite it being in both preliminary, one intermediate and one final crash report makes you a lying welcher. Not worthy of making a gentleman's agreement, even if you do eventually sack up when the second final report comes out in 6 months or so. You know you have lost, ergo you are a welcher.

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Post by Charliesheen » Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:52 pm

Tested or not tested. What's the diff? Once you're quarantined I'd assume the protocol is the same.

Why not save the tests for medical and first responders instead?

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Post by DandyDon » Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:39 pm

Charliesheen wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:52 pm
Tested or not tested. What's the diff? Once you're quarantined I'd assume the protocol is the same.

Why not save the tests for medical and first responders instead?
Because the data of everything is needed to plan for future outbreaks/pandemics. Propagation maps, actual infection v. death rates, ect are all of extreme importance for future propagation models, logistics for supplies, equipment, and personnel needed. How many had a cause of death listed as pneumonia/whatever when it was actually Covid because they weren't tested?

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Post by Biker » Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:15 am

AnalHamster wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:57 pm
Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:38 pm
AnalHamster wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:52 pm
B-Tender wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:55 pm
This thread has the makings of a potential avatar bet.
No point betting when I want to change the rules midway through the bet
I'm not proposing any rule change, just pointing out that you continuing to deny that you understand the MCAS system was a major factor in both crashes, despite it being in both preliminary, one intermediate and one final crash report makes you a lying welcher. Not worthy of making a gentleman's agreement, even if you do eventually sack up when the second final report comes out in 6 months or so. You know you have lost, ergo you are a welcher.
I missed the final report. Link, biatch?

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Post by AnalHamster » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:17 am

Biker wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:15 am
AnalHamster wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:57 pm
Biker wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:38 pm
AnalHamster wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:52 pm
B-Tender wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:55 pm
This thread has the makings of a potential avatar bet.
No point betting when I want to change the rules midway through the bet
I'm not proposing any rule change, just pointing out that you continuing to deny that you understand the MCAS system was a major factor in both crashes, despite it being in both preliminary, one intermediate and one final crash report makes you a lying welcher. Not worthy of making a gentleman's agreement, even if you do eventually sack up when the second final report comes out in 6 months or so. You know you have lost, ergo you are a welcher.
I missed the final report. Link, biatch?
The first one? You saw it, cherry picked and did that extended derp about a warning light (which didn't work) being a redundant system.
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