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Apollo 8- liftoff on only the 3rd Saturn V rocket mission. 1st (unmanned) was a total disaster. Developed such a pong that if any astronauts had been on board, they would have been killed. 2nd (manned) was perfect after they fixed the problem- involved helium. Apollo 8 orbited twice and were given the green light for TLI- Trans Lunar Insertion. Using the fuel left in the 3rd and final stage to burn for 5 minutes 18 seconds, they achieved an escape velocity of 24,200 MPH (The press was told 25,000). That was the perfect calculated speed to escape Earth's gravity and enter the Moon's. 8 hours into the 3rd day of the mission they crossed the barrier between the 2 gravity fields around 200,000 miles from Earth. They of course didn't notice any difference. At that point, their speed was only around 3,000 MPH but jumped to 9,000 MPH after the Moon's gravity "pulled" them in. Now they had only the main SPS rocket engine of the command module. That engine had to work perfect not once but twice. The first was for LOI- Lunar Orbit Insertion- orbit the Moon. 2nd was TEI- Trans Earth Insertion. If the SPS engine didn't work, best case scenario was to simply swing by the Moon's orbit and head for home (Apollo 13). Worst case scenarios in an over or under burn or stop working in orbit was a crash on the moon, slung out into space forever or orbiting the moon forever with 3 dead humans aboard that everybody looking at the Moon would remember. To be Continued.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:17 pmWe have a motion to overrule physics and set an arbitrary end of earth's gravity at around 200,000 miles or roughly 3/4 the distance to the moon. Those in favor?CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:09 pm8 hours into the 3rd day of the Apollo 8 mission vs what was left to enter lunar orbit. Or 200,000 of the total distance of 266,000 miles, whatever that percentage is. Say 3/4.Antknot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:42 pmSince were talking about the Earth and the moon, add say at the point between them when it falls towards the moon instead of the Earth. Like I said in the earlier post I know it exists but I don’t have the exact number.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:24 pmSo, at what point do you consider the earth's gravity negligible to the point that it is non existent? how far out?Antknot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:04 pmTrue. However using your logic the gravity from Proxima Centauri affects us as well as a gravity from Earth however I dare you to prove that. Cause effect from such a distant object is reduced to a negligible amount.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 12:40 pm
Yes, it's a combination of the two. But Earth's gravity is still there and affecting the moon.
Also, keep in mind that Einstein proved that gravity is infinite.
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And if you think I'm Googling this, forget it. Weeks ago after I saw Borman died, remembered I had a book on my Kindle I had read years ago and decided to reread.

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Flat Earthers are funny.

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You really should give credit to google when you do this.CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:55 pmApollo 8- liftoff on only the 3rd Saturn V rocket mission. 1st (unmanned) was a total disaster. Developed such a pong that if any astronauts had been on board, they would have been killed. 2nd (manned) was perfect after they fixed the problem- involved helium. Apollo 8 orbited twice and were given the green light for TLI- Trans Lunar Insertion. Using the fuel left in the 3rd and final stage to burn for 5 minutes 18 seconds, they achieved an escape velocity of 24,200 MPH (The press was told 25,000). That was the perfect calculated speed to escape Earth's gravity and enter the Moon's. 8 hours into the 3rd day of the mission they crossed the barrier between the 2 gravity fields around 200,000 miles from Earth. They of course didn't notice any difference. At that point, their speed was only around 3,000 MPH but jumped to 9,000 MPH after the Moon's gravity "pulled" them in. Now they had only the main SPS rocket engine of the command module. That engine had to work perfect not once but twice. The first was for LOI- Lunar Orbit Insertion- orbit the Moon. 2nd was TEI- Trans Earth Insertion. If the SPS engine didn't work, best case scenario was to simply swing by the Moon's orbit and head for home (Apollo 13). Worst case scenarios in an over or under burn or stop working in orbit was a crash on the moon, slung out into space forever or orbiting the moon forever with 3 dead humans aboard that everybody looking at the Moon would remember. To be Continued.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:17 pmWe have a motion to overrule physics and set an arbitrary end of earth's gravity at around 200,000 miles or roughly 3/4 the distance to the moon. Those in favor?CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:09 pm8 hours into the 3rd day of the Apollo 8 mission vs what was left to enter lunar orbit. Or 200,000 of the total distance of 266,000 miles, whatever that percentage is. Say 3/4.Antknot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:42 pmSince were talking about the Earth and the moon, add say at the point between them when it falls towards the moon instead of the Earth. Like I said in the earlier post I know it exists but I don’t have the exact number.
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See 2 posts above, "Flyover Country".rule34 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:18 pmYou really should give credit to google when you do this.CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:55 pmApollo 8- liftoff on only the 3rd Saturn V rocket mission. 1st (unmanned) was a total disaster. Developed such a pong that if any astronauts had been on board, they would have been killed. 2nd (manned) was perfect after they fixed the problem- involved helium. Apollo 8 orbited twice and were given the green light for TLI- Trans Lunar Insertion. Using the fuel left in the 3rd and final stage to burn for 5 minutes 18 seconds, they achieved an escape velocity of 24,200 MPH (The press was told 25,000). That was the perfect calculated speed to escape Earth's gravity and enter the Moon's. 8 hours into the 3rd day of the mission they crossed the barrier between the 2 gravity fields around 200,000 miles from Earth. They of course didn't notice any difference. At that point, their speed was only around 3,000 MPH but jumped to 9,000 MPH after the Moon's gravity "pulled" them in. Now they had only the main SPS rocket engine of the command module. That engine had to work perfect not once but twice. The first was for LOI- Lunar Orbit Insertion- orbit the Moon. 2nd was TEI- Trans Earth Insertion. If the SPS engine didn't work, best case scenario was to simply swing by the Moon's orbit and head for home (Apollo 13). Worst case scenarios in an over or under burn or stop working in orbit was a crash on the moon, slung out into space forever or orbiting the moon forever with 3 dead humans aboard that everybody looking at the Moon would remember. To be Continued.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:17 pmWe have a motion to overrule physics and set an arbitrary end of earth's gravity at around 200,000 miles or roughly 3/4 the distance to the moon. Those in favor?CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:09 pm8 hours into the 3rd day of the Apollo 8 mission vs what was left to enter lunar orbit. Or 200,000 of the total distance of 266,000 miles, whatever that percentage is. Say 3/4.
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rule34 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:18 pmYou really should give credit to google when you do this.CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:55 pmApollo 8- liftoff on only the 3rd Saturn V rocket mission. 1st (unmanned) was a total disaster. Developed such a pong that if any astronauts had been on board, they would have been killed. 2nd (manned) was perfect after they fixed the problem- involved helium. Apollo 8 orbited twice and were given the green light for TLI- Trans Lunar Insertion. Using the fuel left in the 3rd and final stage to burn for 5 minutes 18 seconds, they achieved an escape velocity of 24,200 MPH (The press was told 25,000). That was the perfect calculated speed to escape Earth's gravity and enter the Moon's. 8 hours into the 3rd day of the mission they crossed the barrier between the 2 gravity fields around 200,000 miles from Earth. They of course didn't notice any difference. At that point, their speed was only around 3,000 MPH but jumped to 9,000 MPH after the Moon's gravity "pulled" them in. Now they had only the main SPS rocket engine of the command module. That engine had to work perfect not once but twice. The first was for LOI- Lunar Orbit Insertion- orbit the Moon. 2nd was TEI- Trans Earth Insertion. If the SPS engine didn't work, best case scenario was to simply swing by the Moon's orbit and head for home (Apollo 13). Worst case scenarios in an over or under burn or stop working in orbit was a crash on the moon, slung out into space forever or orbiting the moon forever with 3 dead humans aboard that everybody looking at the Moon would remember. To be Continued.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:17 pmWe have a motion to overrule physics and set an arbitrary end of earth's gravity at around 200,000 miles or roughly 3/4 the distance to the moon. Those in favor?CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:09 pm8 hours into the 3rd day of the Apollo 8 mission vs what was left to enter lunar orbit. Or 200,000 of the total distance of 266,000 miles, whatever that percentage is. Say 3/4.
He didn't Google it. It is verbatim from his Kindle book.
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But... but... the lawyer who wrote a book SAYS SO !!!stonedmegman wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:34 pmrule34 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:18 pmYou really should give credit to google when you do this.CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:55 pmApollo 8- liftoff on only the 3rd Saturn V rocket mission. 1st (unmanned) was a total disaster. Developed such a pong that if any astronauts had been on board, they would have been killed. 2nd (manned) was perfect after they fixed the problem- involved helium. Apollo 8 orbited twice and were given the green light for TLI- Trans Lunar Insertion. Using the fuel left in the 3rd and final stage to burn for 5 minutes 18 seconds, they achieved an escape velocity of 24,200 MPH (The press was told 25,000). That was the perfect calculated speed to escape Earth's gravity and enter the Moon's. 8 hours into the 3rd day of the mission they crossed the barrier between the 2 gravity fields around 200,000 miles from Earth. They of course didn't notice any difference. At that point, their speed was only around 3,000 MPH but jumped to 9,000 MPH after the Moon's gravity "pulled" them in. Now they had only the main SPS rocket engine of the command module. That engine had to work perfect not once but twice. The first was for LOI- Lunar Orbit Insertion- orbit the Moon. 2nd was TEI- Trans Earth Insertion. If the SPS engine didn't work, best case scenario was to simply swing by the Moon's orbit and head for home (Apollo 13). Worst case scenarios in an over or under burn or stop working in orbit was a crash on the moon, slung out into space forever or orbiting the moon forever with 3 dead humans aboard that everybody looking at the Moon would remember. To be Continued.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:17 pmWe have a motion to overrule physics and set an arbitrary end of earth's gravity at around 200,000 miles or roughly 3/4 the distance to the moon. Those in favor?CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:09 pm8 hours into the 3rd day of the Apollo 8 mission vs what was left to enter lunar orbit. Or 200,000 of the total distance of 266,000 miles, whatever that percentage is. Say 3/4.Too be fair...
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He didn't Google it. It is verbatim from his Kindle book.
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What Mr Hawking should have said was that the guy that died was the first humanoid type creature to ever enter a different space body's gravity field where that gravitational force was greater than the earth's gravity at the location.
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I'm gonna have to think on that one for a little bit.
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Flumper. Knighted Sir Isaac Newton by Texas A&M for his advancements in Concrete technology. Gotta stick with what you know.
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That would be more realistic as his use of the word "creatures" was wrong from the beginning as the Russians had sent a couple of turtles around the moon 4 months before Apollo 8.
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imagine you have a really bright light in your backyard shining toward you. and then way way way off in the distance you have a flashlight that is 1/6 as bright as the backyard light. you start driving toward the flashlight. at some point in between you will see the flashlight as exactly the same brightness as the backyard light. that is the point in which the backyard light ceases to exist and is null and void. according the CTC's new Law of Dumb Stuff
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Actually that was Luna 3 over 9 years (1959) before Apollo 8 and it was 2 dogs, some earthworms and plants. Instead of "life forms" or "creatures", why don't we just call it sentient beings with brains bigger than RD. That should cover the whole human race.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:44 amThat would be more realistic as his use of the word "creatures" was wrong from the beginning as the Russians had sent a couple of turtles around the moon 4 months before Apollo 8.
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you are batting fucking zero at this game. zero.CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:47 amActually that was Luna 3 over 9 years (1959) before Apollo 8 and it was 2 dogs, some earthworms and plants. Instead of "life forms" or "creatures", why don't we just call it sentient beings with brains bigger than RD. That should cover the whole human race.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:44 amThat would be more realistic as his use of the word "creatures" was wrong from the beginning as the Russians had sent a couple of turtles around the moon 4 months before Apollo 8.
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Who drives their car in their back yard? Spent months getting it to look so good.Animal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:44 am imagine you have a really bright light in your backyard shining toward you. and then way way way off in the distance you have a flashlight that is 1/6 as bright as the backyard light. you start driving toward the flashlight. at some point in between you will see the flashlight as exactly the same brightness as the backyard light. that is the point in which the backyard light ceases to exist and is null and void. according the CTC's new Law of Dumb Stuff
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I see you are deflecting the Sport over to baseball. Good call.Animal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:55 amyou are batting fucking zero at this game. zero.CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:47 amActually that was Luna 3 over 9 years (1959) before Apollo 8 and it was 2 dogs, some earthworms and plants. Instead of "life forms" or "creatures", why don't we just call it sentient beings with brains bigger than RD. That should cover the whole human race.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:44 amThat would be more realistic as his use of the word "creatures" was wrong from the beginning as the Russians had sent a couple of turtles around the moon 4 months before Apollo 8.
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Luna 3 was a satellite, you moron. There were no dogs on it.CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:47 amActually that was Luna 3 over 9 years (1959) before Apollo 8 and it was 2 dogs, some earthworms and plants. Instead of "life forms" or "creatures", why don't we just call it sentient beings with brains bigger than RD. That should cover the whole human race.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:44 amThat would be more realistic as his use of the word "creatures" was wrong from the beginning as the Russians had sent a couple of turtles around the moon 4 months before Apollo 8.
The first creatures around the moon were two turtles on Russia's Zond 5.
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that makes more sense than your version of Luna 3 by the russians.CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:56 amWho drives their car in their back yard? Spent months getting it to look so good.Animal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:44 am imagine you have a really bright light in your backyard shining toward you. and then way way way off in the distance you have a flashlight that is 1/6 as bright as the backyard light. you start driving toward the flashlight. at some point in between you will see the flashlight as exactly the same brightness as the backyard light. that is the point in which the backyard light ceases to exist and is null and void. according the CTC's new Law of Dumb Stuff
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From Wiki:4 October 1959: The USSR launches Luna 3 and succeeds in their mission of sending an object into orbit around the Moon and photographing the far side of the Moon. 19 August 1960: Aboard the Soviet Union's Sputnik 5, the first animals (two dogs, Belka and Strelka) and a range of plants are returned alive from space.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:59 amLuna 3 was a satellite, you moron. There were no dogs on it.CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:47 amActually that was Luna 3 over 9 years (1959) before Apollo 8 and it was 2 dogs, some earthworms and plants. Instead of "life forms" or "creatures", why don't we just call it sentient beings with brains bigger than RD. That should cover the whole human race.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:44 amThat would be more realistic as his use of the word "creatures" was wrong from the beginning as the Russians had sent a couple of turtles around the moon 4 months before Apollo 8.
The first creatures around the moon were two turtles on Russia's Zond 5.
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Sputnik 5 didn't go to the moon, you retarded idiot.CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:03 amFrom Wiki:4 October 1959: The USSR launches Luna 3 and succeeds in their mission of sending an object into orbit around the Moon and photographing the far side of the Moon. 19 August 1960: Aboard the Soviet Union's Sputnik 5, the first animals (two dogs, Belka and Strelka) and a range of plants are returned alive from space.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:59 amLuna 3 was a satellite, you moron. There were no dogs on it.CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:47 amActually that was Luna 3 over 9 years (1959) before Apollo 8 and it was 2 dogs, some earthworms and plants. Instead of "life forms" or "creatures", why don't we just call it sentient beings with brains bigger than RD. That should cover the whole human race.Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:44 amThat would be more realistic as his use of the word "creatures" was wrong from the beginning as the Russians had sent a couple of turtles around the moon 4 months before Apollo 8.
The first creatures around the moon were two turtles on Russia's Zond 5.
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right at this moment, CTC has reps from Guiness in his house documenting that he is the dumbest fuck in the world.
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