You realize that there's more cases and evidence against your contention than there is for you, right? Just like with fraud, you backed the wrong horse.
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Elements of a Bribery Charge
If you are charged with bribery, the prosecutor needs to prove that you offered a sum of money or something else of value in exchange for some benefit related to a public servant's official duties. Common examples of such benefits include a vote, a recommendation, a decision, or the use of political influence.
dot thinks Stormy is a public servant.
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Wrong. Your interpretation of a single definition allows you to project this opinion.Animal wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:48 amElements of a Bribery Charge
If you are charged with bribery, the prosecutor needs to prove that you offered a sum of money or something else of value in exchange for some benefit related to a public servant's official duties. Common examples of such benefits include a vote, a recommendation, a decision, or the use of political influence.
dot thinks Stormy is a public servant.
What's the definition of this? According to you, it can't be bribery.
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Not bribery. According to Analmal.
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omg. salty is literally googling tv shows and movies.
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Yes. I'd like to know what you'd call what is being stated as bribery.
See, I like backing up things with evidence and facts. Something your close-minded "brain" can't understand.
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salty doesn't realize he lost his credibility back on Page 3 when he didn't know that a police officer was a public official.
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i gave you literal legal definitions. from law sources. i didn't check any Seinfeld episodes.
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Congrats. You're "law" knowledge is about as useful as Ted Cruz at an Astros playoff game.Animal wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:10 ami gave you literal legal definitions. from law sources. i didn't check any Seinfeld episodes.
You didn't happen to look up "fraud" in that same place or are to afraid?
There are such things as "expansions" on definitions pal. Your interpretation isn't the only one.
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i have been around long enough to know that there are some people that simply cannot admit they were wrong. I get it.saltydog wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:14 amCongrats. You're "law" knowledge is about as useful as Ted Cruz at an Astros playoff game.Animal wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:10 ami gave you literal legal definitions. from law sources. i didn't check any Seinfeld episodes.
You didn't happen to look up "fraud" in that same place or are to afraid?
There are such things as "expansions" on definitions pal. Your interpretation isn't the only one.
The fact is, however, Trump did not bribe Stormy Daniels. Its that simple.
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Its amusing how The Lefties are willing to "go deeper" and "expand the definition" when it suits them.
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Technically and legally what Trump and Daniels agreed to was an NDA; a "non disclosure agreement".Animal wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:17 ami have been around long enough to know that there are some people that simply cannot admit they were wrong. I get it.saltydog wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:14 amCongrats. You're "law" knowledge is about as useful as Ted Cruz at an Astros playoff game.Animal wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:10 ami gave you literal legal definitions. from law sources. i didn't check any Seinfeld episodes.
You didn't happen to look up "fraud" in that same place or are to afraid?
There are such things as "expansions" on definitions pal. Your interpretation isn't the only one.
The fact is, however, Trump did not bribe Stormy Daniels. Its that simple.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement
In other words: not a bribe.
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Hey! Grover Dill makes an appearance!
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Let me know when you're got the balls to acknowledge all definitions. Or maybe you'd like to take up your objection with the publications themselves. After all, I'm not the one excluding what a word means. None of us said bribery cannot involve a government official. We simply corrected you that it's not just government officials.Animal wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:48 am Elements of a Bribery Charge
If you are charged with bribery, the prosecutor needs to prove that you offered a sum of money or something else of value in exchange for some benefit related to a public servant's official duties. Common examples of such benefits include a vote, a recommendation, a decision, or the use of political influence.
dot thinks Stormy is a public servant.
And just since you've shown you're an utter moron, here's some more examples that you'll have to put blinders on for.dot wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:06 pm https://www.dictionary.com/browse/bribe
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bribebribe
noun
money or any other valuable consideration given or promised with a view to corrupting the behavior of a person, especially in that person's performance as an athlete, public official, etc.:
The motorist offered the arresting officer a bribe to let him go.
anything given or serving to persuade or induce:
The children were given candy as a bribe to be good.
verb (used with object),bribed, brib·ing.
to give or promise a bribe to:
They bribed the reporter to forget about what he had seen.
to influence or corrupt by a bribe:
The judge was too honest to be bribed.
verb (used without object),bribed, brib·ing.
to give a bribe; practice bribery.bribe
1 of 2
noun
ˈbrīb
Synonyms of bribe
1
: money or favor given or promised in order to influence the judgment or conduct of a person in a position of trust
police officers accused of taking bribes
2
: something that serves to induce or influence
offered the kid a bribe to finish his homework
bribe
2 of 2
verb
bribed; bribing
transitive verb
: to influence the judgment or conduct of (someone) with or as if with offers of money or favor : to induce or influence by or as if by bribery
attempting to bribe a judge
bribing a child with candy
https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/oc ... t-payments
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndtx/pr/14 ... care-fraud
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Hey Dot?!?! Did Trump bribe Stormy Daniels?
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Blinders predicted accurately. Still no crime by Joe Biden. Another day, same as yesterday.
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Animal wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:04 pm Its interesting to learn that you can skirt the law by having your illegal activities paid through a relative and then, when they send you the money, they write "loan repayment" or "babysitting" or some harmless topic in the memo line of the check.
learning this makes me wonder why any mafia guys ever went to jail. did they not know this sophisticated loophole?
Because before you stumbled yourself into fraud part deux, you showed your stupidity again by having another uninformed opinion.
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i meant in the context of this topic of Bribery? I only brought up Biden to find out how the "Bribery with Stormy Daniels" was exactly the same as the charges against Biden. Now, if you can manage to stay on topic, how does Bribery enter into the claims against Biden? Can you answer a question?dot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 2:33 pmAnimal wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:04 pm Its interesting to learn that you can skirt the law by having your illegal activities paid through a relative and then, when they send you the money, they write "loan repayment" or "babysitting" or some harmless topic in the memo line of the check.
learning this makes me wonder why any mafia guys ever went to jail. did they not know this sophisticated loophole?Because before you stumbled yourself into fraud part deux, you showed your stupidity again by having another uninformed opinion.
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Here is the context I am talking about Dot.Animal wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:35 pmwhat's also weird, is your use of the word bribery to describe the stormy daniels story. i don't think bribery has ever been used to describe that situation.saltydog wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:11 pmThe amazingly ironic part of all this is the exact bribery schemes that the GOP alleges upon the Biden team is EXACTLY what Trump did in regards to Stormy Daniels, and who knows what else.
Weirdly though, there's actually facts to support the Trump allegations.
unless i'm wrong the only thing trump did was pay her to keep her mouth shut about him fucking her. and, I think, the only thing illegal about it might have been the funds used to pay her came out of his campaign funds.
so, I really can't see how there would be even the slightest similarity in the Trump/Stormy story and the Joe Biden/Burisma payoffs.
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Stormy isn’t in the picture at that point, she hadn’t even been mentioned by Salty until replying to me well after you had your garbage takes. You were clearly expressing an opinion about Biden criminal activity, so instead of the distraction you already failed at understanding and minimizing, let’s get at your new question, the actual subject. Why would I get the idea that you have an opinion about Biden criminal activity? Because you clearly waded into the pool talking about it but now that you’re pressed you are clamming up. Put up or shut up as they say.Animal wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 2:43 pm i meant in the context of this topic of Bribery? I only brought up Biden to find out how the "Bribery with Stormy Daniels" was exactly the same as the charges against Biden. Now, if you can manage to stay on topic, how does Bribery enter into the claims against Biden? Can you answer a question?
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So now that dot has been proven wrong about the nonexistent Trump bribe, hes bobbing and weaving trying to shift subjects.
If a mod could change his title to "Dodgin' dot" that would be great. Thanks.
If a mod could change his title to "Dodgin' dot" that would be great. Thanks.
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i think i might ban him since he can't ever answer a question. he's clearly a troll.
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I did answer your question, you just didn’t like that I was right about it and you still can’t respond to it.
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what makes it literally impossible to have a conversation with you, is when you are wrong (which is almost every single time) instead of admitting it and moving on, you go into this bizarre cover your ass mode where you start to widen the topic until you can find some sliver of something that might make you slightly not wrong if you twist the story just a little. and by that point its all so off topic that nothing makes any sense any more.
you can't seem to stay focused on the simple part that started this. Trump's payment to Stormy Daniels was not bribery. That's just as simple and clear as it can be.