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CaptQuint wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:29 pm

CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:26 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:27 pm

CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:09 pm

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:24 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:17 pm

Considering how radioactive it was at that point, it's amazing it didn't glow in the dark.

Man, that is a sad way for a warship with that much battle glory to end.

No way, she still exists. Best thing that could be done with her. Too radioactive to scrap or turn into a museum

That's true. Almost criminal the way they massively overbuilt the Navy near the end of WWII and ended up scrapping most of it and when Korea hit 5 years later were surprised at the Navy being woefully inadequate. Same for all the armed forces in the rush to demobilize and get the troops home.

Well Congress isn't gonna pay for the upkeep of 7000 ships and the pay for millions of Sailors to man them forever.

Yeah, I get that. But I think a couple of things came into play. First- We've always been an isolationist Country from the very beginning. Fight a war- mobilize. When it's over- demobilize. I think I read after millions served in the Civil War, by the 1870's, our armed forces were less than Serbia or something, most fighting Indians out West. But after WWII, it may have shocked some that we were now in the longest War in our History- Cold War against the Soviets, but it shouldn't have been to some in the highest reaches of the government that knew better when it came to scrapping all that was built and thrown away. That's what was criminal to me.

CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:45 pm We've always been an isolationist Country from the very beginning.

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:56 pm

CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:45 pm We've always been an isolationist Country from the very beginning.

Good lord. The toenail biter can't resist the urges surging through his veins.

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:29 pm

CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:26 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:27 pm

CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:09 pm

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:24 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:17 pm

Considering how radioactive it was at that point, it's amazing it didn't glow in the dark.

Man, that is a sad way for a warship with that much battle glory to end.

No way, she still exists. Best thing that could be done with her. Too radioactive to scrap or turn into a museum

That's true. Almost criminal the way they massively overbuilt the Navy near the end of WWII and ended up scrapping most of it and when Korea hit 5 years later were surprised at the Navy being woefully inadequate. Same for all the armed forces in the rush to demobilize and get the troops home.

Well Congress isn't gonna pay for the upkeep of 7000 ships and the pay for millions of Sailors to man them forever.

So, I didn't actually watch the whole video or Google but was the USS Nevada involved in the Bikini test that made it radioactive?

CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:01 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:29 pm

CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:26 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:27 pm

CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:09 pm

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:24 pm Considering how radioactive it was at that point, it's amazing it didn't glow in the dark.

Man, that is a sad way for a warship with that much battle glory to end.

No way, she still exists. Best thing that could be done with her. Too radioactive to scrap or turn into a museum

That's true. Almost criminal the way they massively overbuilt the Navy near the end of WWII and ended up scrapping most of it and when Korea hit 5 years later were surprised at the Navy being woefully inadequate. Same for all the armed forces in the rush to demobilize and get the troops home.

Well Congress isn't gonna pay for the upkeep of 7000 ships and the pay for millions of Sailors to man them forever.

So, I didn't actually watch the whole video or Google but was the USS Nevada involved in the Bikini test that made it radioactive?

No, The Mess Hall only served baked beans on that warship. Sailor farts made it radioactive

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:03 pm

CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:01 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:29 pm

CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:26 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:27 pm

CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:09 pm
Man, that is a sad way for a warship with that much battle glory to end.

No way, she still exists. Best thing that could be done with her. Too radioactive to scrap or turn into a museum

That's true. Almost criminal the way they massively overbuilt the Navy near the end of WWII and ended up scrapping most of it and when Korea hit 5 years later were surprised at the Navy being woefully inadequate. Same for all the armed forces in the rush to demobilize and get the troops home.

Well Congress isn't gonna pay for the upkeep of 7000 ships and the pay for millions of Sailors to man them forever.

So, I didn't actually watch the whole video or Google but was the USS Nevada involved in the Bikini test that made it radioactive?

No, The Mess Hall only served baked beans on that warship. Sailor farts made it radioactive

Right. Google. So the only Battleship to actually get underway during Pearl Harbor. Salvaged and fought throughout the war and survived being sunk during the Able atomic bomb test at Bikini and used as a target practice. Seems scuttling charges with the flags waving as she sunk with other Navy ships firing salutes would have been more appropriate for that proud ship.

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:24 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:17 pm

Considering how radioactive it was at that point, it's amazing it didn't glow in the dark.

were those torpedo's airborne or from a ship?

pork wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:11 pm

FSchmertz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:24 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:17 pm

Considering how radioactive it was at that point, it's amazing it didn't glow in the dark.

were those torpedo's airborne or from a ship?

After she was thoroughly examined, Iowa and two other vessels used Nevada as a practice gunnery target 65 miles southwest of Pearl Harbor on 31 July 1948. The ships did not sink Nevada, so she was given a coup de grâce with an aerial torpedo hit amidships.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Nevad ... )#Post-war

According to the video splash screen, they pounded it with everything they had (including the Iowa's 16 inch shells, each of which weighed 2,700 pounds (the weight of a 2021 Honda Civic).

The Mk. 8 APC (Armor-Piercing, Capped) shell weighed 2,700 lb (1225 kg) and was designed to penetrate the hardened steel armor carried by foreign battleships. At 20,000 yards (18 km) the Mk. 8 could penetrate 20 inches (500 mm) of steel armor plate. At the same range, the Mk. 8 could penetrate 21 feet (6.4 m) of reinforced concrete.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armament_ ... Ammunition

And, from what I see in the video, I think they then hit it with way more than one aerial torpedo, presumably from Grumman TBF Avengers.

CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:13 pmSeems scuttling charges with the flags waving as she sunk with other Navy ships firing salutes would have been more appropriate for that proud ship.

It would have already been decommissioned before then. And it's only a thing. The sailors and officers that worked on it made it what it was and what it would be remembered for.

Reservoir Dog wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:56 pm

CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:45 pm We've always been an isolationist Country from the very beginning.

Don’t laugh RD. He got this from Hammy. Said geography is the only reason the US became a super power.

QillerDaemon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:25 pm

CentralTexasCrude wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:13 pmSeems scuttling charges with the flags waving as she sunk with other Navy ships firing salutes would have been more appropriate for that proud ship.

It would have already been decommissioned before then. And it's only a thing. The sailors and officers that worked on it made it what it was and what it would be remembered for.

If any WWII warship should have been preserved it should be The USS Enterprise CV-6

Stapes wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:57 pm

Robin Olds. Straight up bad ass.

Swedish Major Eric Bonde smokes a cigarette after being ambushed and shot twice, Congo. January 15th, 1961

Major Eric Bonde was part of the Swedish UN mission to Congo during the Congo Crisis. He was probably shot by Baluba warriors that time used a lot of old muzzle-loaded rifles/muskets. After being given first aid he returned to the fight against the invisible enemy in the jungle bush.

During Congo Crisis, the Secretary-General to the UN was the Swedish diplomat Dag Hammarskjöld, who was very highly respected both in Sweden and in the international community (among others, JFK and Eisenhower often praised him). Thus Sweden took a particular interest in the conflict Hammarskjöld worked so tirelessly to end.

From 1960 to 1964, the Swedish Army sent a total of nine battalions to Congo. In the initial stage of the crisis, when whites in the Congo became targets during the riots, Dag Hammarskjöld assessed that it was important that there were white UN troops in the country.

He, therefore, requested that Sweden and Ireland would send a battalion each, with the ulterior motive that they would more easily win the confidence of the whites than soldiers from African states.

The first Swedish battalion arrived in Congo directly from Gaza on 22 July 1960. The first days the Swedes were patrolling in Leopoldville and guarded Kinshasa Airport in the city.

Swedes, like other UN troops, had difficulty knowing who really were friends and who were enemies, and the fighting they engaged in did not always have an apparent rational reason. In August, the Swedes moved to Elizabethville in Katanga, where they ended up in their first combat situation and suffered their first loss in connection with the escort of railroad transport.

The trains, which were carrying Katangan Baluba prisoners, were attacked by Baluba, a nationalist group who supported the central government against the break out of the government. In practice, at that point, the Swedes fought on the same side as the Belgian-led Katangan gendarmerie, who would later become the UN’s worst enemy.

Congo Crisis became by far the most serious international task the Swedish Armed Forces faced during the Cold War, and it was the first time in 140 years that Swedish forces were forced into battle. During the years in Congo, 40 Swedish soldiers were injured and 19 were killed.

As late as 2004, it was alleged that the corpses of two killed Swedes were eaten by locals, purportedly because cannibalism was believed by Africans to be a way to assimilate the victim’s strength. The event was considered very sensitive to the UN and the Congolese government and the incident was covered up. A total of 6,334 Swedes served in the Congo during the years 1960-1964.

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:28 pm Swedish Major Eric Bonde smokes a cigarette after being ambushed and shot twice, Congo. January 15th, 1961

They must have shot him with a zip gun... Lol

Stapes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:33 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:28 pm Swedish Major Eric Bonde smokes a cigarette after being ambushed and shot twice, Congo. January 15th, 1961

They must have shot him with a zip gun... Lol

Musket

Lookout for a fucker named van Owen

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:34 pm

Stapes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:33 pm

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:28 pm Swedish Major Eric Bonde smokes a cigarette after being ambushed and shot twice, Congo. January 15th, 1961

They must have shot him with a zip gun... Lol

Musket

I totally missed the bio.... Lol

CaptQuint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:38 pm Lookout for a fucker named van Owen

That son-of-a-bitch!