which would be fine by me. but i know your dumb asses will have to raise our taxes to pay for your pet project.
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I think I have a dinner fied your problem. If you can’t tell the difference between legal and illegal you need to get out of this thread out of politics form and shut your mouth.saltydog wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:50 amInteresting statement. Can you clearly tell us the difference?Antknot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:36 amAs long as they’re here legally I have no problem. It’s the illegal ones that I have a problem with
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The Lefties try to use this every time: They claim that since 99% of the illegals are claiming asylum, and asylum is the legal action to take, that all of these folks are indeed legal or "doing it the right way". They dont care that prior to entering the country they are coached on what to say and what not to say.Antknot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:50 amI think I have a dinner fied your problem. If you can’t tell the difference between legal and illegal you need to get out of this thread out of politics form and shut your mouth.saltydog wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:50 amInteresting statement. Can you clearly tell us the difference?
The fact is economic migration is not a valid asylum claim, which is why most of these folks are making the trek, so they are told the appropriate things to claim, IF by the odd chance they get stopped at the border.
Yes, some have valid asylum claims. Most do not.
The Lefties like to obfuscate. When we say "We just want them to come here legally through the process." Thats when the asylum claims get trotted out when they know full well that what we mean is get on the list, wait your turn, get investigated properly, get the appropriate documentation, and come into our country and assimilate/integrate in an organized and scheduled manner.
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That's actually a good question. As an employer, how do you tell the difference. If a person shows up with a social security card and a current green card, how do you tell the difference without violating their employment rights?Antknot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:50 amI think I have a dinner fied your problem. If you can’t tell the difference between legal and illegal you need to get out of this thread out of politics form and shut your mouth.saltydog wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:50 amInteresting statement. Can you clearly tell us the difference?
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Antknot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:50 amI think I have identified your problem. If you can’t tell the difference between legal and illegal you need to get out of this thread out of politics form and shut your mouth.saltydog wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:50 amInteresting statement. Can you clearly tell us the difference?
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USCIS E-Verify systemAnimal wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:17 pmThat's actually a good question. As an employer, how do you tell the difference. If a person shows up with a social security card and a current green card, how do you tell the difference without violating their employment rights?Antknot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:50 amI think I have a dinner fied your problem. If you can’t tell the difference between legal and illegal you need to get out of this thread out of politics form and shut your mouth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Verify
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How many employers (aside from Animal, of course) actually do things "above board" and in full accordance with the law? Also, is the squeeze worth the juice?Ricrude wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:27 pmUSCIS E-Verify systemAnimal wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:17 pmThat's actually a good question. As an employer, how do you tell the difference. If a person shows up with a social security card and a current green card, how do you tell the difference without violating their employment rights?Antknot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:50 amI think I have a dinner fied your problem. If you can’t tell the difference between legal and illegal you need to get out of this thread out of politics form and shut your mouth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Verify
If the feds actually did their jobs and audited documented or undocumented workers, do you really think people like the guy in the example above would be able to survive? Most businesses are near tipping points as far as survival to begin with.
All it takes is a thorough tax audit, board of health inspection, employee documentation, or any regulations in place to shut the doors for good. That's not great for the economy though, and we then need to find someone to blame.... rather than look in the mirror.
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I understand that system is touted as being free, but the fact is that its not free. and its not manditory (except on federal and a few other situations). it requires training of personnel to use the system and then it requires downtime to wait for results and to correct incorrect data that could be in the system. small businesses can't afford those things that are common for large companies. if an employee is flagged in an e verify check and they dispute the results, then you have a problem and an employer can't exactly call a person a liar.Ricrude wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:27 pmUSCIS E-Verify systemAnimal wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:17 pmThat's actually a good question. As an employer, how do you tell the difference. If a person shows up with a social security card and a current green card, how do you tell the difference without violating their employment rights?Antknot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:50 amI think I have a dinner fied your problem. If you can’t tell the difference between legal and illegal you need to get out of this thread out of politics form and shut your mouth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Verify
What we (small businesses) do HAVE to do is submit an I-9. And the entire point of the I-9 is to insure that the person hired is legal. As long as that form is completed correctly and filed timely, then that is the burden of proof for a small employer. I don't know of any small business owners that don't do that and the file for I-9s is the first thing the immigration people would ask for if they paid a visit.
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Well, where we live it's the law and you are fined heavily for violating it. I'd say 90 % of our businesses follow it but you always have a few that think they are smarter and circumvent. When your state gov's are short on money then I'm sure that you see ramped up inspections. Happens more than you may think.saltydog wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:52 pmHow many employers (aside from Animal, of course) actually do things "above board" and in full accordance with the law? Also, is the squeeze worth the juice?Ricrude wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:27 pmUSCIS E-Verify systemAnimal wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:17 pmThat's actually a good question. As an employer, how do you tell the difference. If a person shows up with a social security card and a current green card, how do you tell the difference without violating their employment rights?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Verify
If the feds actually did their jobs and audited documented or undocumented workers, do you really think people like the guy in the example above would be able to survive? Most businesses are near tipping points as far as survival to begin with.
All it takes is a thorough tax audit, board of health inspection, employee documentation, or any regulations in place to shut the doors for good. That's not great for the economy though, and we then need to find someone to blame.... rather than look in the mirror.
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FWIW, there are more than a handful of businesses in my region that are in a similar industry as I am.Ricrude wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:04 pmWell, where we live it's the law and you are fined heavily for violating it. I'd say 90 % of our businesses follow it but you always have a few that think they are smarter and circumvent. When your state gov's are short on money then I'm sure that you see ramped up inspections. Happens more than you may think.saltydog wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:52 pmHow many employers (aside from Animal, of course) actually do things "above board" and in full accordance with the law? Also, is the squeeze worth the juice?Ricrude wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:27 pmUSCIS E-Verify systemAnimal wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:17 pmThat's actually a good question. As an employer, how do you tell the difference. If a person shows up with a social security card and a current green card, how do you tell the difference without violating their employment rights?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Verify
If the feds actually did their jobs and audited documented or undocumented workers, do you really think people like the guy in the example above would be able to survive? Most businesses are near tipping points as far as survival to begin with.
All it takes is a thorough tax audit, board of health inspection, employee documentation, or any regulations in place to shut the doors for good. That's not great for the economy though, and we then need to find someone to blame.... rather than look in the mirror.
About 20+ years ago, we were audited by the IRS and ended up paying a fairly hefty fine for various things but nothing outlandish. (How to apply tax to sales on items, documentation of payments, bartering services for goods, etc).
Currently, these other businesses ABSOLUTELY don't meet proper standards for records, documentation, transactions (VENMO baby!), and would be obliterated by tax audits. Too bad there are definitely bigger fish to fry as it would be wonderful to have some of these frauds and con men out of our industry with a little oversight.
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I understand my business really is a "small" business (6-7 employees at any given time so maybe its easier for me) but I actually do try to be as "above board" as possible. My payroll is legit, my taxes are paid regularly and on time, I dont pay cash and I try to make sure we follow any and all applicable laws and regulations. The worst thing we've ever been busted with [knock on wood] is my accountant underpaid our sales tax a couple of years ago and that was easily resolved with a check for the missing amount.
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i had a sales tax audit around 15 years ago. they go through everything. literally everything. I had no idea how brutal and in depth their dive would get. Most of our work is for cities, counties, and developers with streets that will be dedicated to the city upon completion. Most of those jobs are tax exempt, meaning the materials that are incorporated into the job are tax exempt. But we pay sales tax on items that are not incorporated, such as tools, barricades, port-a-cans, silt fence, etc. If its not left as part of the job, then its taxed and that's how we buy it. If a crew goes into a store and buys rebar for a concrete pour and they also get some gloves and rubber boots, then we pay tax on the gloves and rubber boots but not the rebar. And our invoices and payments reflect all of that.saltydog wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:17 pm
FWIW, there are more than a handful of businesses in my region that are in a similar industry as I am.
About 20+ years ago, we were audited by the IRS and ended up paying a fairly hefty fine for various things but nothing outlandish. (How to apply tax to sales on items, documentation of payments, bartering services for goods, etc).
Currently, these other businesses ABSOLUTELY don't meet proper standards for records, documentation, transactions (VENMO baby!), and would be obliterated by tax audits. Too bad there are definitely bigger fish to fry as it would be wonderful to have some of these frauds and con men out of our industry with a little oversight.
After weeks of going through boxes and boxes of stuff our audit was flawless except for two things. Our concrete pavers come from a company in Iowa. When they are delivered we have to pay the sales tax in Texas, which we do. We are always having to order a part now and then for whatever on those pavers and that company never collects the sales tax so we have to make that payment ourselves. Those complete fucknuts found 2 times that we forgot to collect tax on some $50 parts. That's all they found. It amounted to around $20 dollars total that we owed. You never know what your competition is doing or how they are doing it. But, i'm sure you are the only one doing it right in your area.
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Animal wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:37 pmi had a sales tax audit around 15 years ago. they go through everything. literally everything. I had no idea how brutal and in depth their dive would get. Most of our work is for cities, counties, and developers with streets that will be dedicated to the city upon completion. Most of those jobs are tax exempt, meaning the materials that are incorporated into the job are tax exempt. But we pay sales tax on items that are not incorporated, such as tools, barricades, port-a-cans, silt fence, etc. If its not left as part of the job, then its taxed and that's how we buy it. If a crew goes into a store and buys rebar for a concrete pour and they also get some gloves and rubber boots, then we pay tax on the gloves and rubber boots but not the rebar. And our invoices and payments reflect all of that.saltydog wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:17 pm
FWIW, there are more than a handful of businesses in my region that are in a similar industry as I am.
About 20+ years ago, we were audited by the IRS and ended up paying a fairly hefty fine for various things but nothing outlandish. (How to apply tax to sales on items, documentation of payments, bartering services for goods, etc).
Currently, these other businesses ABSOLUTELY don't meet proper standards for records, documentation, transactions (VENMO baby!), and would be obliterated by tax audits. Too bad there are definitely bigger fish to fry as it would be wonderful to have some of these frauds and con men out of our industry with a little oversight.
After weeks of going through boxes and boxes of stuff our audit was flawless except for two things. Our concrete pavers come from a company in Iowa. When they are delivered we have to pay the sales tax in Texas, which we do. We are always having to order a part now and then for whatever on those pavers and that company never collects the sales tax so we have to make that payment ourselves. Those complete fucknuts found 2 times that we forgot to collect tax on some $50 parts. That's all they found. It amounted to around $20 dollars total that we owed. You never know what your competition is doing or how they are doing it. But, i'm sure you are the only one doing it right in your area.

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I'm impressed with how well you came out of your audit. In conversation with the owner, who lived through the audit he said, "Someone tipped them off, so they're here for their pound of flesh.". It's wild how many people in our industry survive with little or no documentation of transactions, especially the "under the table" cash flow that seems quite prevalent.
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If you have evidence of their tax evasion, why don’t you report them to the IRS? Doesn’t the IRS still have a reward for reporting tax cheats?saltydog wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:17 pmFWIW, there are more than a handful of businesses in my region that are in a similar industry as I am.Ricrude wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:04 pmWell, where we live it's the law and you are fined heavily for violating it. I'd say 90 % of our businesses follow it but you always have a few that think they are smarter and circumvent. When your state gov's are short on money then I'm sure that you see ramped up inspections. Happens more than you may think.saltydog wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:52 pmHow many employers (aside from Animal, of course) actually do things "above board" and in full accordance with the law? Also, is the squeeze worth the juice?Ricrude wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:27 pmUSCIS E-Verify system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Verify
If the feds actually did their jobs and audited documented or undocumented workers, do you really think people like the guy in the example above would be able to survive? Most businesses are near tipping points as far as survival to begin with.
All it takes is a thorough tax audit, board of health inspection, employee documentation, or any regulations in place to shut the doors for good. That's not great for the economy though, and we then need to find someone to blame.... rather than look in the mirror.
About 20+ years ago, we were audited by the IRS and ended up paying a fairly hefty fine for various things but nothing outlandish. (How to apply tax to sales on items, documentation of payments, bartering services for goods, etc).
Currently, these other businesses ABSOLUTELY don't meet proper standards for records, documentation, transactions (VENMO baby!), and would be obliterated by tax audits. Too bad there are definitely bigger fish to fry as it would be wonderful to have some of these frauds and con men out of our industry with a little oversight.
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I've been told so many times...when you get audited just go ahead and get out the checkbook. They have to find something to pay the expenses.saltydog wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:46 pmAnimal wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:37 pmi had a sales tax audit around 15 years ago. they go through everything. literally everything. I had no idea how brutal and in depth their dive would get. Most of our work is for cities, counties, and developers with streets that will be dedicated to the city upon completion. Most of those jobs are tax exempt, meaning the materials that are incorporated into the job are tax exempt. But we pay sales tax on items that are not incorporated, such as tools, barricades, port-a-cans, silt fence, etc. If its not left as part of the job, then its taxed and that's how we buy it. If a crew goes into a store and buys rebar for a concrete pour and they also get some gloves and rubber boots, then we pay tax on the gloves and rubber boots but not the rebar. And our invoices and payments reflect all of that.saltydog wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:17 pm
FWIW, there are more than a handful of businesses in my region that are in a similar industry as I am.
About 20+ years ago, we were audited by the IRS and ended up paying a fairly hefty fine for various things but nothing outlandish. (How to apply tax to sales on items, documentation of payments, bartering services for goods, etc).
Currently, these other businesses ABSOLUTELY don't meet proper standards for records, documentation, transactions (VENMO baby!), and would be obliterated by tax audits. Too bad there are definitely bigger fish to fry as it would be wonderful to have some of these frauds and con men out of our industry with a little oversight.
After weeks of going through boxes and boxes of stuff our audit was flawless except for two things. Our concrete pavers come from a company in Iowa. When they are delivered we have to pay the sales tax in Texas, which we do. We are always having to order a part now and then for whatever on those pavers and that company never collects the sales tax so we have to make that payment ourselves. Those complete fucknuts found 2 times that we forgot to collect tax on some $50 parts. That's all they found. It amounted to around $20 dollars total that we owed. You never know what your competition is doing or how they are doing it. But, i'm sure you are the only one doing it right in your area.![]()
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I'm impressed with how well you came out of your audit. In conversation with the owner, who lived through the audit he said, "Someone tipped them off, so they're here for their pound of flesh.". It's wild how many people in our industry survive with little or no documentation of transactions, especially the "under the table" cash flow that seems quite prevalent.
It is absolutely amazing that some people survive walking out of their homes...fo reelz!
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Ever better is that Rudy is going to get nabbed on RICO charges that helped make him famous by taking down the NYC Mob!
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Funny, but we've outlasted a few businesses that had no business model in place to survive more than 4-5 years. Ones that are currently still alive are only due to financial backers that are (still) waiting on them to be profitable.Antknot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 5:23 pmIf you have evidence of their tax evasion, why don’t you report them to the IRS? Doesn’t the IRS still have a reward for reporting tax cheats?saltydog wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:17 pmFWIW, there are more than a handful of businesses in my region that are in a similar industry as I am.Ricrude wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:04 pmWell, where we live it's the law and you are fined heavily for violating it. I'd say 90 % of our businesses follow it but you always have a few that think they are smarter and circumvent. When your state gov's are short on money then I'm sure that you see ramped up inspections. Happens more than you may think.saltydog wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:52 pmHow many employers (aside from Animal, of course) actually do things "above board" and in full accordance with the law? Also, is the squeeze worth the juice?Ricrude wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:27 pmUSCIS E-Verify system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Verify
If the feds actually did their jobs and audited documented or undocumented workers, do you really think people like the guy in the example above would be able to survive? Most businesses are near tipping points as far as survival to begin with.
All it takes is a thorough tax audit, board of health inspection, employee documentation, or any regulations in place to shut the doors for good. That's not great for the economy though, and we then need to find someone to blame.... rather than look in the mirror.
About 20+ years ago, we were audited by the IRS and ended up paying a fairly hefty fine for various things but nothing outlandish. (How to apply tax to sales on items, documentation of payments, bartering services for goods, etc).
Currently, these other businesses ABSOLUTELY don't meet proper standards for records, documentation, transactions (VENMO baby!), and would be obliterated by tax audits. Too bad there are definitely bigger fish to fry as it would be wonderful to have some of these frauds and con men out of our industry with a little oversight.
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hand sanitizer, sneeze guards or N-95 masks?
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Slap bracelets...
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