CaptQuint wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:01 am
Video emerges showing Trump talking about cutting pandemic team in 2018, despite saying last week 'I didn't know about it'
Sounds like it might actually have been caused by his fetish to destroy all things Obama. Don't know where his apparent hatred for him came from.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:28 am
by Geist
Won't be feeling the bern today.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:14 am
by kwebber
Here's a bitch, (who is smoking hot in my opinion), who has a theory about where the Coronavirus cases have exploded.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:33 am
by CHEEZY17
Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:58 am
Of course Trump was downplaying everything, appearing to care more about the economy than public health and saying stupid shit in general about or in response to questions about the Coronavirus.
A)He was in Campaign mode until last Friday and uses every chance he has to talk about the economy to garner votes.
B)He doesn't know enough ways to say "I don't know" so he tends to spew nonsense and bullshit about pretty much every subject but deal making.
I thought everyone already understood Trump-speak.
That said, short of a hard and complete country shut down there was not much more that Trump could have done to stop this from SPREADING in the US (besides changes to the way his team was structured and prioritizing pandemic response pre-outbreak, but that's a different story).
CDC having to get past the FDA before mass producing a working test is bureaucracy at it's finest. Maybe Trump could have done an executive order to bypass rules and regulations? I don't know but it sounds like it would have only saved a day or two from timeline I read.
Pretty much. This was happening no matter what. Thats all we're saying. You must be a Trump taint licker!!!11!11!
EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD is dealing with this but somehow Trump could have stopped it.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:36 am
by CaptQuint
St. Paddy's Day and all the pubs are closed, God must want the Irish to be productive today.
Burn1dwn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:58 am
Of course Trump was downplaying everything, appearing to care more about the economy than public health and saying stupid shit in general about or in response to questions about the Coronavirus.
A)He was in Campaign mode until last Friday and uses every chance he has to talk about the economy to garner votes.
B)He doesn't know enough ways to say "I don't know" so he tends to spew nonsense and bullshit about pretty much every subject but deal making.
I thought everyone already understood Trump-speak.
That said, short of a hard and complete country shut down there was not much more that Trump could have done to stop this from SPREADING in the US (besides changes to the way his team was structured and prioritizing pandemic response pre-outbreak, but that's a different story).
CDC having to get past the FDA before mass producing a working test is bureaucracy at it's finest. Maybe Trump could have done an executive order to bypass rules and regulations? I don't know but it sounds like it would have only saved a day or two from timeline I read.
Pretty much. This was happening no matter what. Thats all we're saying. You must be a Trump taint licker!!!11!11!
EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD is dealing with this but somehow Trump could have stopped it.
No, Trump couldn't have stopped it but he could have stopped saying stupid and inaccurate things.
Nah, that's impossible.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:38 pm
by CaptQuint
The boys ate Chipotle in Atlanta, and there’s Charmin in Texarkana...
Flumper wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:17 pm
damn, the # of deaths in Italy is getting close to the # of deaths in China. WTF?
A significantly older population is probably one of the primary factors
And the Italians are huggers and kissers.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:12 pm
by Animal
I heard on the radio today that some new world-wide statistics that they are beginning to put together suggest that each person that gets the virus typically infects 2 to 4 people. So each 1 case leads to 2-4 new cases.
Its kind of hard to take those numbers (by themselves) and project spread rates (along with the bajillion other factors that come into play) but i guess you can generalize and say that an infected person probably infects 3 people every 5 days.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:18 pm
by megman
The United States experienced the largest 24-hour jump in the coronavirus death toll since the outbreak was discovered in the country.
Health officials reported that 18 people in the U.S. died from the virus on Monday, the most on any one day so far, according to the Washington Post. The total number of U.S. deaths from the virus is now up to at least 88. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... ak-started
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:21 pm
by Animal
megman wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:18 pm
The United States experienced the largest 24-hour jump in the coronavirus death toll since the outbreak was discovered in the country.
Health officials reported that 18 people in the U.S. died from the virus on Monday, the most on any one day so far, according to the Washington Post. The total number of U.S. deaths from the virus is now up to at least 88. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... ak-started
I think its pretty safe to say that every single day will have larger numbers than the day before until this curve flattens or begins to drop. We would need a WTC projection to know exactly when that curve might peak, but right now its not doing that.
I'm hopeful that one of 3 things (or all) starts to show promise:
1. the vaccine they are testing.
2. all of these distancing strategies.
3. warmer weather.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:22 pm
by AnalHamster
The US has screwed the pooch on testing, the rates are underestimated because you can't test people efficiently.
megman wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:18 pm
The United States experienced the largest 24-hour jump in the coronavirus death toll since the outbreak was discovered in the country.
Health officials reported that 18 people in the U.S. died from the virus on Monday, the most on any one day so far, according to the Washington Post. The total number of U.S. deaths from the virus is now up to at least 88. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... ak-started
I think its pretty safe to say that every single day will have larger numbers than the day before until this curve flattens or begins to drop. We would need a WTC projection to know exactly when that curve might peak, but right now its not doing that.
I'm hopeful that one of 3 things (or all) starts to show promise:
1. the vaccine they are testing.
2. all of these distancing strategies.
3. warmer weather.
WTC says you won't hear about it past a week ago last Friday.
Re: Wuhan Coronavirus
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:27 pm
by Animal
AnalHamster wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:22 pm
The US has screwed the pooch on testing, the rates are underestimated because you can't test people efficiently.
what does the superior Great britain testing model do to control the spread of the virus in your country?
Flumper wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:12 pm
I heard on the radio today that some new world-wide statistics that they are beginning to put together suggest that each person that gets the virus typically infects 2 to 4 people. So each 1 case leads to 2-4 new cases.
Its kind of hard to take those numbers (by themselves) and project spread rates (along with the bajillion other factors that come into play) but i guess you can generalize and say that an infected person probably infects 3 people every 5 days.
So what would be a safe multiplier for known cases? 3?
I was just playing with numbers. There are so many factors to consider. The biggest factor is how many days does it take one person to infect 3? Do they do that in the first 2 days they have it or what?
If they do it in the first 5 days, for example. then
Day 0 = 1 person infected
Day 5 = 4 people infected (1 original plus 3 he infected)
Day 10 = 13 people (4 people from day 5 plus the 9 that the new 3 infected)
Day 15 = 40 people (13 from day 10 plus the 27 that the new 9 infected)
Day 20 = 121 people (40 from day 15 plus the 81 that the new 27 infected)
and so on. plus, on day 15, you would have to subtract the people from day 0 because they either died or were cured. On day 20 you subtract the day 5 people, etc.
On around day 103 you would have enough spread to infect the entire human race. (if you can only get it once)
AnalHamster wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:22 pm
The US has screwed the pooch on testing, the rates are underestimated because you can't test people efficiently.
what does the superior Great britain testing model do to control the spread of the virus in your country?
It assists in containment, notifying people who have been exposed that they have been so that they can self quarantine. The openly avowed aim here is to get to herd immunity, which is 60% or so infected and recovered, that is how you stop the spread in the absence of any vaccine or treatment. It cannot be stopped, only slowed so that the medical services are not overwhelmed and have time to ramp up. Trump will get there after lying to you for another week or two.
