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Re: Joe Biden: The inflation President

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spudoc wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:25 pm
Animal wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:33 pm
spudoc wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:20 pm
Animal wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:14 pm
Charliesheen wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:59 pm No thanks. But before unchecked and mostly illegal immigration a man could earn a solid living working in a meat processing plant.

Ditto for a lot of agricultural jobs.
the surprising thing to learn is that it wasn't the illegal immigration that ended that. it was the fact that fewer and fewer men would do the work required for those jobs so the demand for their jobs attracted immigrants.
Fewer and fewer men would do the work at the wage offered for those jobs so they got illegals who would.
And that's the fairy tale that a lot of people want to believe.
How is it not true? There was a business owner at the old site that used to say he shouldn't have to pay a minimum wage because those positions were virtually valueless. And they are until no one shows up to do the work. And the business owners would far rather pay the same old wage to an illegal than have to crack open their wallets for a new pay scale.
its not true because that is not how business owners think. we want workers that will do the work. That is way more important than the wage they are paid. We want workers that will work the hours (whatever they are), that will get production, that has the skills required to do the job, etc. The ability and skill to do the job is way more important than the wage paid. And an employer will pay a lot more to get someone much more qualified to do a job.

you seem to think its just a matter of setting the wage. that couldn't be farther from reality.
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Re: Joe Biden: The inflation President

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CaptQuint wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:43 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:35 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:32 pm Ok guys, your bullshit is exposed. BACK TO HUNTER BIDEN SHITPOSTING!!!!!!!!!



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You didnt expose shit, homeschool. A partisan fact checker trying to downplay trends and spin facts doesnt mean squat. Biden is the inflation president. Own it.
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Nearly 6 in 10 Americans fault Biden's policies for 13-year inflation high: poll
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/5653 ... -high-poll
Biden pollster's inflation warning
https://www.axios.com/biden-pollsters-i ... be2b5.html

Real average hourly earnings decreased 1.7 percent, seasonally adjusted, from June 2020 to June 2021.
Real average hourly earnings for production and nonsupervisory employees decreased 0.6 percent from
May to June, seasonally adjusted. This result stems from a 0.4-percent increase in average hourly
earnings combined with an increase of 1.0 percent in the Consumer Price Index for Urban Wage Earners
and Clerical Workers (CPI-W).
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/realer.htm
What is the reason for the inflation?
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The reason for this huge uptick in inflation, as your own fact checker points out but tries to downplay, is ongoing and excessive government spending. Throw in overly generous Democrat governors extending extra unemployment benefits which exacerbates labor problems which in turn exacerbate production problems. Even Democrat leaning economists question the wisdom of even more government spending that your party is trying to ram through congress.
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Re: Joe Biden: The inflation President

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CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:19 am
CaptQuint wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:43 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:35 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:32 pm Ok guys, your bullshit is exposed. BACK TO HUNTER BIDEN SHITPOSTING!!!!!!!!!



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You didnt expose shit, homeschool. A partisan fact checker trying to downplay trends and spin facts doesnt mean squat. Biden is the inflation president. Own it.
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Nearly 6 in 10 Americans fault Biden's policies for 13-year inflation high: poll
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/5653 ... -high-poll
Biden pollster's inflation warning
https://www.axios.com/biden-pollsters-i ... be2b5.html

Real average hourly earnings decreased 1.7 percent, seasonally adjusted, from June 2020 to June 2021.
Real average hourly earnings for production and nonsupervisory employees decreased 0.6 percent from
May to June, seasonally adjusted. This result stems from a 0.4-percent increase in average hourly
earnings combined with an increase of 1.0 percent in the Consumer Price Index for Urban Wage Earners
and Clerical Workers (CPI-W).
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/realer.htm
What is the reason for the inflation?
The reason for this huge uptick in inflation, as your own fact checker points out but tries to downplay, is ongoing and excessive government spending. Throw in overly generous Democrat governors extending extra unemployment benefits which exacerbates labor problems which in turn exacerbate production problems. Even Democrat leaning economists question the wisdom of even more government spending that your party is trying to ram through congress.
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So where is the President Trump inflation thread?
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even stevie wonder can see what is causing this inflation. this is the easiest economy there has ever been to analyze.
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Nice thing about this forum we don't need google, we have Flumpy. He knows everything.
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CaptQuint wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:22 am
So where is the President Trump inflation thread?
Look at the chart. You can see what inflation was under Trump. Do you think that warrants a thread and further do you notice anything unusual happening right after January?
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:50 am
CaptQuint wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:22 am
So where is the President Trump inflation thread?
Look at the chart. You can see what inflation was under Trump. Do you think that warrants a thread and further do you notice anything unusual happening right after January?
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The effects of a year of major government spending and a worldwide pandemic taking effect.
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To this end, in August 2020, the Fed modified its monetary policy framework. It is sticking with its 2 percent inflation target but now says that it intends to offset periods of below-2 percent inflation with periods of above-2 percent inflation, an approach it is calling Average Inflation Targeting (AIT). In its old framework, if inflation fell below the 2 percent target, the Fed pledged to try to get it back to target without compensating for the period of inflation shortfall. The change makes explicit that, following a period in which inflation has fallen short of target for a time, the Fed will accept and even encourage periods of above-2 percent inflation going forward, discouraging a decline in inflation expectations.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front ... ey-matter/


Inflation Is Coming. That Might Even Be a Problem.
Upward pressure on prices is already easy to spot, and that’s before the Democrats take over.


https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/artic ... -in-a-bind


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So you agree major government spending can lead to inflation. Cool. That means even more government spending will lead to even more inflation. Given that we agree on these things now, do you think its a good idea for the government to be spending trillions right now?
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:29 am So you agree major government spending can lead to inflation. Cool. That means even more government spending will lead to even more inflation. Given that we agree on these things now, do you think its a good idea for the government to be spending trillions right now?

So you agree that The Trump Administrations spending led to inflation in Biden's. Cool.
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CaptQuint wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:41 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:29 am So you agree major government spending can lead to inflation. Cool. That means even more government spending will lead to even more inflation. Given that we agree on these things now, do you think its a good idea for the government to be spending trillions right now?

So you agree that The Trump Administrations spending led to inflation in Biden's. Cool.
I would agree that the the spending started under Trump. You do understand that the BIden administration has taken the money giveaways to the next level, right? So, if we agree that massive government money giveaways lead to rampant inflation, do you think the Biden administration and Democrat led Congress should be trying to ram through trillions more in free money giveaways? Do you think that could lead to even more inflation?
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:49 am
CaptQuint wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:41 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:29 am So you agree major government spending can lead to inflation. Cool. That means even more government spending will lead to even more inflation. Given that we agree on these things now, do you think its a good idea for the government to be spending trillions right now?

So you agree that The Trump Administrations spending led to inflation in Biden's. Cool.
I would agree that the the spending started under Trump. You do understand that the BIden administration has taken the money giveaways to the next level, right? So, if we agree that massive government money giveaways lead to rampant inflation, do you think the Biden administration and Democrat led Congress should be trying to ram through trillions more in free money giveaways? Do you think that could lead to even more inflation?
How has Biden taken it to the next level when the trump handouts outweigh bidens?
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CaptQuint wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:00 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:49 am
CaptQuint wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:41 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:29 am So you agree major government spending can lead to inflation. Cool. That means even more government spending will lead to even more inflation. Given that we agree on these things now, do you think its a good idea for the government to be spending trillions right now?

So you agree that The Trump Administrations spending led to inflation in Biden's. Cool.
I would agree that the the spending started under Trump. You do understand that the BIden administration has taken the money giveaways to the next level, right? So, if we agree that massive government money giveaways lead to rampant inflation, do you think the Biden administration and Democrat led Congress should be trying to ram through trillions more in free money giveaways? Do you think that could lead to even more inflation?
How has Biden taken it to the next level when the trump handouts outweigh bidens?
Additional. Adding to. On top of. The Biden administration and Democrat led congress continues/continued to pump free money. More is not always better and in this case, as we have seen, the Democrats and Biden pushing more free money in addition to the original outlay has led to inflation. So, if we agree that massive government money giveaways lead to rampant inflation, do you think the Biden administration and Democrat led Congress should be trying to ram through trillions more in free money giveaways? Do you think that could lead to even more inflation?
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CaptQuint wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:00 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:49 am
CaptQuint wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:41 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:29 am So you agree major government spending can lead to inflation. Cool. That means even more government spending will lead to even more inflation. Given that we agree on these things now, do you think its a good idea for the government to be spending trillions right now?

So you agree that The Trump Administrations spending led to inflation in Biden's. Cool.
I would agree that the the spending started under Trump. You do understand that the BIden administration has taken the money giveaways to the next level, right? So, if we agree that massive government money giveaways lead to rampant inflation, do you think the Biden administration and Democrat led Congress should be trying to ram through trillions more in free money giveaways? Do you think that could lead to even more inflation?
How has Biden taken it to the next level when the trump handouts outweigh bidens?
The first wave of cash went to mostly businesses under trump so cheezy was happy with that. Biden is helping struggling families so those are "giveaways" to rethugs.
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:29 am So you agree major government spending can lead to inflation. Cool. That means even more government spending will lead to even more inflation. Given that we agree on these things now, do you think its a good idea for the government to be spending trillions right now?
Even Biden's own economists were warning that another stimulus package (that he delivered to payoff his voters immediately after election) would lead to runaway inflation. Everyone knew it and warned of it and they did not care. Its funny to hear them now try to pin it on Trump.
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Stapes wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:29 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:00 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:49 am
CaptQuint wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:41 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:29 am So you agree major government spending can lead to inflation. Cool. That means even more government spending will lead to even more inflation. Given that we agree on these things now, do you think its a good idea for the government to be spending trillions right now?

So you agree that The Trump Administrations spending led to inflation in Biden's. Cool.
I would agree that the the spending started under Trump. You do understand that the BIden administration has taken the money giveaways to the next level, right? So, if we agree that massive government money giveaways lead to rampant inflation, do you think the Biden administration and Democrat led Congress should be trying to ram through trillions more in free money giveaways? Do you think that could lead to even more inflation?
How has Biden taken it to the next level when the trump handouts outweigh bidens?
The first wave of cash went to mostly businesses under trump so cheezy was happy with that. Biden is helping struggling families so those are "giveaways" to rethugs.
And all of that money that paid for additional unemployment benefits that ended up just encouraging people to stay home? Where do you think that came from?
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CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:38 pm
Stapes wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:29 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:00 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:49 am
CaptQuint wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:41 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:29 am So you agree major government spending can lead to inflation. Cool. That means even more government spending will lead to even more inflation. Given that we agree on these things now, do you think its a good idea for the government to be spending trillions right now?

So you agree that The Trump Administrations spending led to inflation in Biden's. Cool.
I would agree that the the spending started under Trump. You do understand that the BIden administration has taken the money giveaways to the next level, right? So, if we agree that massive government money giveaways lead to rampant inflation, do you think the Biden administration and Democrat led Congress should be trying to ram through trillions more in free money giveaways? Do you think that could lead to even more inflation?
How has Biden taken it to the next level when the trump handouts outweigh bidens?
The first wave of cash went to mostly businesses under trump so cheezy was happy with that. Biden is helping struggling families so those are "giveaways" to rethugs.
And all of that money that paid for additional unemployment benefits that ended up just encouraging people to stay home? Where do you think that came from?

Funny how republicans are only concerned about were Spending comes from when it's helping the people and not lining their corporate masters pockets. Hypocrites one and all
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Stapes wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:06 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:38 pm
Stapes wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:29 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:00 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:49 am
CaptQuint wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:41 am


So you agree that The Trump Administrations spending led to inflation in Biden's. Cool.
I would agree that the the spending started under Trump. You do understand that the BIden administration has taken the money giveaways to the next level, right? So, if we agree that massive government money giveaways lead to rampant inflation, do you think the Biden administration and Democrat led Congress should be trying to ram through trillions more in free money giveaways? Do you think that could lead to even more inflation?
How has Biden taken it to the next level when the trump handouts outweigh bidens?
The first wave of cash went to mostly businesses under trump so cheezy was happy with that. Biden is helping struggling families so those are "giveaways" to rethugs.
And all of that money that paid for additional unemployment benefits that ended up just encouraging people to stay home? Where do you think that came from?

Funny how republicans are only concerned about were Spending comes from when it's helping the people and not lining their corporate masters pockets. Hypocrites one and all
:lol: helping the people. Those are the people that were on a spending spree with their new "free stimulus money".
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Animal wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:09 pm
Stapes wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:06 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:38 pm
Stapes wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:29 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:00 am
CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:49 am

I would agree that the the spending started under Trump. You do understand that the BIden administration has taken the money giveaways to the next level, right? So, if we agree that massive government money giveaways lead to rampant inflation, do you think the Biden administration and Democrat led Congress should be trying to ram through trillions more in free money giveaways? Do you think that could lead to even more inflation?
How has Biden taken it to the next level when the trump handouts outweigh bidens?
The first wave of cash went to mostly businesses under trump so cheezy was happy with that. Biden is helping struggling families so those are "giveaways" to rethugs.
And all of that money that paid for additional unemployment benefits that ended up just encouraging people to stay home? Where do you think that came from?

Funny how republicans are only concerned about were Spending comes from when it's helping the people and not lining their corporate masters pockets. Hypocrites one and all
:lol: helping the people. Those are the people that were on a spending spree with their new "free stimulus money".

Sure... nobody needed to pay rent or car payments or anything like that........ In the Republican mind everybody is a Welfare Queen
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Stapes wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:12 pm
Animal wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:09 pm
Stapes wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:06 pm
CHEEZY17 wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:38 pm
Stapes wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:29 pm
CaptQuint wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:00 am

How has Biden taken it to the next level when the trump handouts outweigh bidens?
The first wave of cash went to mostly businesses under trump so cheezy was happy with that. Biden is helping struggling families so those are "giveaways" to rethugs.
And all of that money that paid for additional unemployment benefits that ended up just encouraging people to stay home? Where do you think that came from?

Funny how republicans are only concerned about were Spending comes from when it's helping the people and not lining their corporate masters pockets. Hypocrites one and all
:lol: helping the people. Those are the people that were on a spending spree with their new "free stimulus money".

Sure... nobody needed to pay rent or car payments or anything like that........ In the Republican mind everybody is a Welfare Queen
i assume you read the thread "what are you going to do with your stimulus money".

democrats pretend like everyone needs free money to buy diapers and medicine.
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@Stspes

Sheesh you sound dopey.

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PERSONAL FINANCE
Wages are rising, but inflation may have given workers a 2% pay cut
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/27/wages-a ... y-cut.html
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It's almost like Republicans elected someone who anointed themselves "the king of debt"
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