Wuhan Coronavirus

[FreakShowFanatic]

BTW, I said this yesterday too and posted a link to his latest speech on this, but I think Cuomo is doing an awesome job. I'm not blaming Trump for anything but Cuomo is a hell of a lot more knowledgeable and really provides a comprehensive update on things. I think NY has so many cases due to the amount of foreigners and tourists that travel there and how densely packed people are but I'm certain it has nothing to do with how Cuomo is handling things.

[Animal]

Flumper is standing out there in the middle of bumfuk Texas looking around and going everything looks fine to me I don't know what the big deal is

dude, that's wrong. not by a long shot. I have a sign on the front of our office for no one to come inside the door (phone and wait). I have instructed employees not to go inside any buildings for any reason. No more signing tickets. All pickups are to be made outside after an order is phoned in. Even taking a truck to get a tire change, no one allowed in the vehicle but my employee. etc. 6 foot distance from all people at all times.

I have 400 surgical gloves on hand for my guys to use for when they stop to pump gas, etc. I am picking up another order tomorrow. I am doing all that I can think of. As is everyone that I know of.

[Animal]

So the blame doesn't belong to a sitting president who downplayed the severity of a plague virus because it made for bad TV and we're all now behind the eight-ball because of it? I think he deserves quite a lot of blame but that's just me

have you heard that most of the large "hot spots" have asked that they quit testing everyone that wants one and go back to only testing the ones that are showing symptoms necessary of a hospital visit? wasting way too much PPE, manpower, and wasted tests on people that don't need them.

thanks for your great advice.

Because there isn't enough quipment.......... Gosh if only someone in-the-know had acted sooner and prepared better...... I know it's a very hard concept to wrap your mind around

nope. it has nothing to do with equipment. it has to do with wasting PPE, wasting people on the test sites, and wasting 90% of the tests on people that hear a symptom and think they have it. Gosh, its almost like they already knew that in the beginning, but because the paranoids (like yourself) finally buzzed so long in their ear that they did it so you would shut up.

[FreakShowFanatic]

If you really want to know what's going on & what the government is doing about it listen to this guy, not Trump. Apparently the state and local governments are more on top of it than Trump & the federal government.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?470585-1/ ... york-state

[Stapes]

So the blame doesn't belong to a sitting president who downplayed the severity of a plague virus because it made for bad TV and we're all now behind the eight-ball because of it? I think he deserves quite a lot of blame but that's just me

have you heard that most of the large "hot spots" have asked that they quit testing everyone that wants one and go back to only testing the ones that are showing symptoms necessary of a hospital visit? wasting way too much PPE, manpower, and wasted tests on people that don't need them.

thanks for your great advice.

Because there isn't enough quipment.......... Gosh if only someone in-the-know had acted sooner and prepared better...... I know it's a very hard concept to wrap your mind around

nope. it has nothing to do with equipment. it has to do with wasting PPE, wasting people on the test sites, and wasting 90% of the tests on people that hear a symptom and think they have it. Gosh, its almost like they already knew that in the beginning, but because the paranoids (like yourself) finally buzzed so long in their ear that they did it so you would shut up.

the reason South Korea got ahead of this thing is cuz they tested everybody I repeat everybody with symptoms. But that horse has left the barn cuz the Trump administration failed

[Stapes]

and yes for the next 200 something days till the next election you will be hearing about the Trump failure over and over and over so I would get used to it if I were you

[FreakShowFanatic]

and yes for the next 200 something days till the next election you will be hearing about the Trump failure over and over and over so I would get used to it if I were you

How about Cuomo? Is he doing a good job?
https://www.c-span.org/video/?470585-1/ ... york-state

[Animal]

the reason South Korea got ahead of this thing is cuz they tested everybody I repeat everybody with symptoms. But that horse has left the barn cuz the Trump administration failed

You are obviously way too dumb to understand how testing works. people have this disease for what, 2 weeks? where are all of the millions of cases that went un detected during those first few months? are they hiding some where waiting to pop up and say "we still have it". what a tool.

[Animal]

and yes for the next 200 something days till the next election you will be hearing about the Trump failure over and over and over so I would get used to it if I were you

i couldn't give 2 fucks what you nit wits talk about for the next 200 days when it comes to trump. i don't listen to that shit. i only hear it now because to get coverage on a 24 hour story such as this virus you can't help but hear it. I would rather you and the rest of your crazy loons that live and breathe politics every day of every year would crawl back into your bunk beds and stay out of the story for now.

[Burn1dwn]

So the blame doesn't belong to a sitting president who downplayed the severity of a plague virus because it made for bad TV and we're all now behind the eight-ball because of it? I think he deserves quite a lot of blame but that's just me

have you heard that most of the large "hot spots" have asked that they quit testing everyone that wants one and go back to only testing the ones that are showing symptoms necessary of a hospital visit? wasting way too much PPE, manpower, and wasted tests on people that don't need them.

thanks for your great advice.

In a perfect world we would test everyone because of
asymptomatic spread. No?

[Animal]

So the blame doesn't belong to a sitting president who downplayed the severity of a plague virus because it made for bad TV and we're all now behind the eight-ball because of it? I think he deserves quite a lot of blame but that's just me

have you heard that most of the large "hot spots" have asked that they quit testing everyone that wants one and go back to only testing the ones that are showing symptoms necessary of a hospital visit? wasting way too much PPE, manpower, and wasted tests on people that don't need them.

thanks for your great advice.

In a perfect world we would test everyone because of
asymptomatic spread. No?

Yes. In a perfect world. The perfect scenario would be that you test every single person. but even then, in a perfect world, you would need to test them several times over several days to make sure you didn't miss it or have a false test. So, you'd probably need around 2 or 3 billion tests and the people and PPE to administer that many tests.

Short of that, you could test people as they show symptoms and start to develop patterns. Which is what we did until the numbskulls that hate trump got involved and learned that was their new "russia" and "impeachment" strategy.

[FreakShowFanatic]

the reason South Korea got ahead of this thing is cuz they tested everybody I repeat everybody with symptoms. But that horse has left the barn cuz the Trump administration failed

You are obviously way too dumb to understand how testing works. people have this disease for what, 2 weeks? where are all of the millions of cases that went un detected during those first few months? are they hiding some where waiting to pop up and say "we still have it". what a tool.

It's still pretty amazing how much we don't know about the coronavirus even though we've learned a lot. What I'm curious about is how many cases do we really have of it, considering that many of these cases are mild with little symptoms.

The other question of course is how effective are these quarantines and lockdowns. This virus seems so highly contagious sometimes it almost seems inevitable that certain people are going to get it and certain people will suffer severe symptoms.

Also, how many people are actually immune to it in that they get exposed to the virus but don't actually catch it. Can these people also be carriers?

There are many things to think about and discuss, think about it.

[Animal]

It's still pretty amazing how much we don't know about the coronavirus even though we've learned a lot. What I'm curious about is how many cases do we really have of it, considering that many of these cases are mild with little symptoms.

The other question of course is how effective are these quarantines and lockdowns. This virus seems so highly contagious sometimes it almost seems inevitable that certain people are going to get it and certain people will suffer severe symptoms.

Also, how many people are actually immune to it in that they get exposed to the virus but don't actually catch it. Can these people also be carriers?

There are many things to think about and discuss, think about it.

you could take it a step further. maybe this virus started in several places instead of just wuhan. maybe whatever leap it made from animal to human was a leap it was ready to make in multiple places in the world. maybe there was a bat in the US that had it and it got on a person. who knows? at this point we can't worry about those things and right now focus on stopping the spread. there will be plenty of time to let the scientists figure out the rest of the story.

[FreakShowFanatic]

It's still pretty amazing how much we don't know about the coronavirus even though we've learned a lot. What I'm curious about is how many cases do we really have of it, considering that many of these cases are mild with little symptoms.

The other question of course is how effective are these quarantines and lockdowns. This virus seems so highly contagious sometimes it almost seems inevitable that certain people are going to get it and certain people will suffer severe symptoms.

Also, how many people are actually immune to it in that they get exposed to the virus but don't actually catch it. Can these people also be carriers?

There are many things to think about and discuss, think about it.

you could take it a step further. maybe this virus started in several places instead of just wuhan. maybe whatever leap it made from animal to human was a leap it was ready to make in multiple places in the world. maybe there was a bat in the US that had it and it got on a person. who knows? at this point we can't worry about those things and right now focus on stopping the spread. there will be plenty of time to let the scientists figure out the rest of the story.

Well, certainly the question I raised about how effective these quarantines and lockdowns are is focusing on stopping the spread. What do you think? Will the lockdowns work for us? What I heard the biggest benefit is that it will slow the inevitable spread so that it won't overwhelm the limited amount of resources we have to treat people. I'm not sure it will do much beyond that though.

[Animal]

Well, certainly the question I raised about how effective these quarantines and lockdowns are is focusing on stopping the spread. What do you think? Will the lockdowns work for us? What I heard the biggest benefit is that it will slow the inevitable spread so that it won't overwhelm the limited amount of resources we have to treat people. I'm not sure it will do much beyond that though.

if the social distancing measures in the Fort Worth area don't make a dent in the numbers, then I will lose hope. The number of cases in this county are still less than 50 and yet all restaurants are closed, most stores are either closed or limiting the number of people inside, a huge portion of the people are working from home (if they are working at all), etc. Its really insane. If this doesn't start showing progress on the numbers in a few more days, then "three cheers in a bucket and mother fuck it", let it spread.

[FreakShowFanatic]

Well, certainly the question I raised about how effective these quarantines and lockdowns are is focusing on stopping the spread. What do you think? Will the lockdowns work for us? What I heard the biggest benefit is that it will slow the inevitable spread so that it won't overwhelm the limited amount of resources we have to treat people. I'm not sure it will do much beyond that though.

if the social distancing measures in the Fort Worth area don't make a dent in the numbers, then I will lose hope. The number of cases in this county are still less than 50 and yet all restaurants are closed, most stores are either closed or limiting the number of people inside, a huge portion of the people are working from home (if they are working at all), etc. Its really insane. If this doesn't start showing progress on the numbers in a few more days, then "three cheers in a bucket and mother fuck it", let it spread.

We're in total lockdown here & we only have 60 cases in my county in Northwest NJ, and only 1 in my town of 23,000. The thing is, that they can't close down the supermarkets and my wife insists on going out & buying fresh groceries at least 2 or 3 times a week. Meanwhile, my wife's brother and cousin live with us. One works in a farmer market and the other works in the repair business for commercial vehicles like ambulances and what not. Therefore they both are deemed "essential" business and work around people 6 days a week. Meh, I honestly think it's almost inevitable that I and my wife are going to catch the virus. Maybe the lockdown will help other people, I'm not sure.

[Animal]

We're in total lockdown here & we only have 60 cases in my county in Northwest NJ, and only 1 in my town of 23,000. The thing is, that they can't close down the supermarkets and my wife insists on going out & buying fresh groceries at least 2 or 3 times a week. Meanwhile, my wife's brother and cousin live with us. One works in a farmer market and the other works in the repair business for commercial vehicles like ambulances and what not. Therefore they both are deemed "essential" business and work around people 6 days a week. Meh, I honestly think it's almost inevitable that I and my wife are going to catch the virus. Maybe the lockdown will help other people, I'm not sure.

honestly, there are some aspects of all of this that are actually increasing social interaction rather than the intended decrease. Because of the hoarding people are doing, most people are going to four or five grocery stores (maybe 10 times more than that) to get what they would normally get at one.

[Burn1dwn]

i was talking to someone the other day and they brought up the press conference where Trump jumped down the reporters throat that asked "So, many americans are scared to death right now and freaking out and desperate....blah blah blah" and trump told him he was a terrible reporter, etc. I watched that news conference and, although it was a little out of place, it sort of reminded me of a football coach that gets asked a stupid question and he's tired of answering stupid questions. I just sort of shrugged it off as petty compared to the pandemic that is going on.

See isn't that weird, I watched the same presser and thought Trump was saying some real off the wall stuff. Like pushing anecdotal cures to the American public and putting a real positive message out about his own response to the pandemic including having every speaker make a short comment thanking him for his marvelous work before addressing the press. It would have been wildly entertaining if not for the circumstances. The question that Trump freaked out about was a softball, the one that really got him steaming was the question before.



I was expecting an Independence Day type speech by Trump followed by the somber, hard facts of the days ahead by his experts. Not the shoot from the hip like we are talking about buying an old building in New York mess we got.

[Stapes]

i was talking to someone the other day and they brought up the press conference where Trump jumped down the reporters throat that asked "So, many americans are scared to death right now and freaking out and desperate....blah blah blah" and trump told him he was a terrible reporter, etc. I watched that news conference and, although it was a little out of place, it sort of reminded me of a football coach that gets asked a stupid question and he's tired of answering stupid questions. I just sort of shrugged it off as petty compared to the pandemic that is going on.

See isn't that weird, I watched the same presser and thought Trump was saying some real off the wall stuff. Like pushing anecdotal cures to the American public and putting a real positive message out about his own response to the pandemic including having every speaker make a short comment thanking him for his marvelous work before addressing the press. It would have been wildly entertaining if not for the circumstances. The question that Trump freaked out about was a softball, the one that really got him steaming was the question before.



I was expecting an Independence Day type speech by Trump followed by the somber, hard facts of the days ahead by his experts. Not the shoot from the hip like we are talking about buying an old building in New York mess we got.

The interesting thing is these daily briefings from the coronavirus task force is supposed to be Pence's show.....but the egomaniac in charge saw he was getting too much positive press so he has to insert himself into it to show who was in charge.

[FreakShowFanatic]

i was talking to someone the other day and they brought up the press conference where Trump jumped down the reporters throat that asked "So, many americans are scared to death right now and freaking out and desperate....blah blah blah" and trump told him he was a terrible reporter, etc. I watched that news conference and, although it was a little out of place, it sort of reminded me of a football coach that gets asked a stupid question and he's tired of answering stupid questions. I just sort of shrugged it off as petty compared to the pandemic that is going on.

See isn't that weird, I watched the same presser and thought Trump was saying some real off the wall stuff. Like pushing anecdotal cures to the American public and putting a real positive message out about his own response to the pandemic including having every speaker make a short comment thanking him for his marvelous work before addressing the press. It would have been wildly entertaining if not for the circumstances. The question that Trump freaked out about was a softball, the one that really got him steaming was the question before.



I was expecting an Independence Day type speech by Trump followed by the somber, hard facts of the days ahead by his experts. Not the shoot from the hip like we are talking about buying an old building in New York mess we got.

The interesting thing is these daily briefings from the coronavirus task force is supposed to be Pence's show.....but the egomaniac in charge saw he was getting too much positive press so he has to insert himself into it to show who was in charge.

Bingo. That absolutely amazes me. Trump said he was putting Pence in charge and thus far I listened to Pence (maybe this past Sunday?) hold one news conference and it wasn't very impressive at all. Thank God we have people like Cuomo stepping up to the plate.

[CaptQuint]

[Animal]

That's what I am hoping for. If they would fucking stick to one test sampling method for more than a week, maybe we could start to see if its working.

[FreakShowFanatic]

Aha, I'm just listening to some BBC report and one theory about there being so many documented cases in NY is 'cause they're doing by far the most tests, even more than South Korea apparently. So of course they're going to detect more people with the illness since they're testing for it.

[CaptQuint]

[Stapes]

Aha, I'm just listening to some BBC report and one theory about there being so many documented cases in NY is 'cause they're doing by far the most tests, even more than South Korea apparently. So of course they're going to detect more people with the illness since they're testing for it.

It's not a theory. That is exactly why. They are doing more tests per capita than any other country.