January 6th Protest/Stolen Election Thread (Was: Trump Nuts Storm the Capitol)

[Animal]

Here is a fact about Jan 6. No one involved was charged with the crime of insurrection. I will argue that is because no one thinks their crimes met the definition of the law that applies to insurrection. prove me wrong.

prove me wrong, Dupey Dot.

[CHEEZY17]

3 followup dodges, not a single one addressing the facts of the insurrection. Hacks gonna hack.

What facts do you think the authorities havent addressed?
"The facts" have been tackled. They've been addressed. They've been examined. They've been scrutinized. Any other synonyms you want to throw in there? Go ahead and add them to the list. What they all mean is the people smarter than you concluded that insurrection didnt fit.

[Biker]

#StolenElection

[dot]

prove me wrong, Dupey Dot.

Charges filed or not filed does not change the facts of the insurrection. Anytime you change the argument from the insurrection to argue anything else, it always comes back to:

it wouldn't have anything to do with January 6th.

So if you want to argue the facts of January 6, you're gonna have to talk about January 6 and not the aftermath.

That was easy.

What facts do you think the authorities

And changing the argument yet again. Hack is terrified of addressing the facts of the insurrection. Hack has to hack.

That was easy.

[Biker]

prove me wrong, Dupey Dot.

Charges filed or not filed does not change the facts of the insurrection. Anytime you change the argument from the insurrection to argue anything else, it always comes back to:

it wouldn't have anything to do with January 6th.

So if you want to argue the facts of January 6, you're gonna have to talk about January 6 and not the aftermath.

That was easy.

What facts do you think the authorities

And changing the argument yet again. Hack is terrified of addressing the facts of the insurrection. Hack has to hack.

That was easy.

Would a stolen election warrant an insurrection?

[dot]

Would a stolen election warrant an insurrection?

Was there a stolen election? No. Facts not altered, address them or concede the Do you know that I'm a fag? True Story!'s premise is wrong. Try again.

[Biker]

Would a stolen election warrant an insurrection?

Was there a stolen election? No. Facts not altered, address them or concede the Do you know that I'm a fag? True Story!'s premise is wrong. Try again.

Hypothetically

[dot]

Hypothetically

Is there some reason you too refuse to talk about the facts of January 6? Every single one of you want to change the argument. There was no stolen election, making your hypothetical nothing more than deflection and distraction. It's gonna be almost a month now with 12 pages and counting of posts, not a single Do you know that I'm a fag? True Story! has argued the insurrection wasn't an insurrection by showcasing how the facts don't meet the definition. One person semi tried, and it didn't work out well and he's since abandoned that thought process when it got turned against him. So here it is again.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/insurrection

insurrection
noun
in·​sur·​rec·​tion ˌin(t)-sə-ˈrek-shən
Synonyms of insurrection
: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government

Prove it wrong.

[CHEEZY17]

Dodgin' Dot thinks the legal authority of the United States Government doesnt have access to her definition.
When Dodgin' Dot keeps whining about "the facts" of January 6th but cant accept the realization that people smarter than her have already evaluated those facts and they disagree.

[dot]

Yet another dodge from the hack.

[fouts]

Insurrection? So what. That's a fancy scary word assigned to only people of the GOP busting up the Capital building. If they set fire to buildings and shot Cops like BLM does it would have been a simple protest and just fine. White privilege and all,you get a fancy scary word. Bet those politicians were having a Louis XVI deja vu moment.
It's comical to hear elections were stolen or ballots were stuffed. Democrats are the heavy weight champions of that without a doubt. For example,Fl has 3x the population of AZ. Fl election results were completed in 24 hours ,a week later AZ results were in. Why is that? Why were votes counted outside observers? Democrat Secretary of State can turn a blind eye to that malfeasance effortlessly and often. Whatever the reason it doesn't pass the smell test.
Everybody on this board has to produce a picture ID to enter a government building,or get on a plane or open a bank account. Why not the same to vote.? Only Democrats oppose that. Mail in ballots reek of fraud.

[CHEEZY17]

Yet another dodge from the hack.

We are not the ones crying you retard.
We are the ones that are on the same side as the legal professionals and people smarter than you.
YOU are the one crying because they disagree with you.
Do you think you understand the definition better than the legal professionals?

[dot]

Insurrection? So what. That's a fancy scary word assigned to only people of the GOP busting up the Capital building. If they set fire to buildings and shot Cops like BLM does it would have been a simple protest and just fine. White privilege and all,you get a fancy scary word. Bet those politicians were having a Louis XVI deja vu moment.
It's comical to hear elections were stolen or ballots were stuffed. Democrats are the heavy weight champions of that without a doubt. For example,Fl has 3x the population of AZ. Fl election results were completed in 24 hours ,a week later AZ results were in. Why is that? Why were votes counted outside observers? Democrat Secretary of State can turn a blind eye to that malfeasance effortlessly and often. Whatever the reason it doesn't pass the smell test.
Everybody on this board has to produce a picture ID to enter a government building,or get on a plane or open a bank account. Why not the same to vote.? Only Democrats oppose that. Mail in ballots reek of fraud.

This is what all the MAGAt disinformation and garbage opinions rolled into one incoherent ball looks like.

We are not the ones crying you retard.

Tell yourself whatever it is you need to, you clearly won't engage in discussing the facts of the insurrection. I didn't expect you to, you didn't disappoint. Hacks do what hacks do.

[CHEEZY17]

Insurrection? So what. That's a fancy scary word assigned to only people of the GOP busting up the Capital building. If they set fire to buildings and shot Cops like BLM does it would have been a simple protest and just fine. White privilege and all,you get a fancy scary word. Bet those politicians were having a Louis XVI deja vu moment.
It's comical to hear elections were stolen or ballots were stuffed. Democrats are the heavy weight champions of that without a doubt. For example,Fl has 3x the population of AZ. Fl election results were completed in 24 hours ,a week later AZ results were in. Why is that? Why were votes counted outside observers? Democrat Secretary of State can turn a blind eye to that malfeasance effortlessly and often. Whatever the reason it doesn't pass the smell test.
Everybody on this board has to produce a picture ID to enter a government building,or get on a plane or open a bank account. Why not the same to vote.? Only Democrats oppose that. Mail in ballots reek of fraud.

This is what all the MAGAt disinformation and garbage opinions rolled into one incoherent ball looks like.

We are not the ones crying you retard.

Tell yourself whatever it is you need to, you clearly won't engage in discussing the facts of the insurrection. I didn't expect you to, you didn't disappoint. Hacks do what hacks do.

The facts have been engaged by everyone here and, more importantly, the legal authorities. You can make the same ridiculous claim until you are blue in the face and I'll keep saying the following for as long as needed:
YOU are the one that is on the opposite side of the legal authorities; not us.

[fouts]

Insurrection? So what. That's a fancy scary word assigned to only people of the GOP busting up the Capital building. If they set fire to buildings and shot Cops like BLM does it would have been a simple protest and just fine. White privilege and all,you get a fancy scary word. Bet those politicians were having a Louis XVI deja vu moment.
It's comical to hear elections were stolen or ballots were stuffed. Democrats are the heavy weight champions of that without a doubt. For example,Fl has 3x the population of AZ. Fl election results were completed in 24 hours ,a week later AZ results were in. Why is that? Why were votes counted outside observers? Democrat Secretary of State can turn a blind eye to that malfeasance effortlessly and often. Whatever the reason it doesn't pass the smell test.
Everybody on this board has to produce a picture ID to enter a government building,or get on a plane or open a bank account. Why not the same to vote.? Only Democrats oppose that. Mail in ballots reek of fraud.

This is what all the MAGAt disinformation and garbage opinions rolled into one incoherent ball looks like.

We are not the ones crying you retard.

Tell yourself whatever it is you need to, you clearly won't engage in discussing the facts of the insurrection. I didn't expect you to, you didn't disappoint. Hacks do what hacks do.

I'm thinking the word 'insurrection'' replaced the 'russia-russia-russia' chant of 2016. Curious when the FBI was asked under oath how many agents were part of the 'insurrection' they declined to answer yet never denied it. WTF is up with that? What and why were they there?
BTW has is that excessive drinking habit these days? I'm thinking your interpretation of facts are seasoned with 90 proof,maybe,probably.

[dot]

The facts have been engaged by everyone here

Factually false. Repeating the same lie over and over will not change that you and everyone else save Animal have not once addressed the facts of the insurrection, and he didn't get the job done then abandoned it. Either do it or sit down as you have no lines in this play, hack.

I'm thinking the word 'insurrection'' replaced the 'russia-russia-russia' chant of 2016. Curious when the FBI was asked under oath how many agents were part of the 'insurrection' they declined to answer yet never denied it. WTF is up with that? What and why were they there?
BTW has is that excessive drinking habit these days? I'm thinking your interpretation of facts are seasoned with 90 proof,maybe,probably.

MAGAt garbage opinion ball. It's like Dvldog reborn.

[CHEEZY17]

The facts have been engaged by everyone here

Factually false. Repeating the same lie over and over will not change that you and everyone else save Animal have not once addressed the facts of the insurrection, and he didn't get the job done then abandoned it. Either do it or sit down as you have no lines in this play, hack.

I'm thinking the word 'insurrection'' replaced the 'russia-russia-russia' chant of 2016. Curious when the FBI was asked under oath how many agents were part of the 'insurrection' they declined to answer yet never denied it. WTF is up with that? What and why were they there?
BTW has is that excessive drinking habit these days? I'm thinking your interpretation of facts are seasoned with 90 proof,maybe,probably.

MAGAt garbage opinion ball. It's like Dvldog reborn.

What facts specifically do you think have not been addressed? And what is the "lie" you claim is being repeated? Be specific please.

[dot]

What facts specifically do you think have not been addressed?

Excluding Animal because as I said, he tried once. None of you have addressed the facts of the insurrection on January 6, what went down, why it went down, and who lit the match. Each one of you has done a pivot to what came after, which is a separate act that has no bearing on the facts of January 6 as it would not change what happened that day. Changing the argument so that you don't argue what happened that day. It's a blatant copout and deflection.

And what is the "lie" you claim is being repeated? Be specific please.

That everyone here has addressed the facts of the insurrection, when none of you have. Except for one. Gonna finally try, hack? Or is all this your disingenuous label leading to your partisan label?

[Antknot]

BREAKING: Professor and Election Expert J. Halderman Hacks into Dominion Voting Machine in Court on Friday in Georgia in front of Judge Totenberg USING ONLY A PEN TO CHANGE VOTE TOTALS


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[CHEEZY17]

What facts specifically do you think have not been addressed?

Excluding Animal because as I said, he tried once. None of you have addressed the facts of the insurrection on January 6, what went down, why it went down, and who lit the match. Each one of you has done a pivot to what came after, which is a separate act that has no bearing on the facts of January 6 as it would not change what happened that day. Changing the argument so that you don't argue what happened that day. It's a blatant copout and deflection.

And what is the "lie" you claim is being repeated? Be specific please.

That everyone here has addressed the facts of the insurrection, when none of you have. Except for one. Gonna finally try, hack? Or is all this your disingenuous label leading to your partisan label?

OK retard, ALL of those things that you just mentioned were evaluated and discussed and weighed against the definition and legal standard BEFORE the decision of what charges to levy.
Thats not a "pivot" or not addressing the "facts". That actually IS addressing the facts of the day. That is pointing out to you yet again that all of your facts are well know to the authorities. All of your facts have been addressed by the legal authority of the United States Government. They decided insurrection doesnt fit by evaluating all of your facts. Thats what they do and that is literally their job and its factual bud. No amount of your whining will change that. Sorry, but I'm going to trust that they understand insurrection better than you do.
Again, YOU are the one with the position that is at odds with the evaluation of the Justice Department. Not us.
You claiming something is a lie doesnt make it so. We've all addressed the facts and answered your questions numerous times; something that YOU havent done. You just dont like the answers we've given because they dont fit your narrative.
Speaking of not addressing the facts, how about giving these a shot or are you going to dodge yet again?
Do you think the legal authorities made a mistake in their evaluation of the January 6th rioters?
Do you think the legal authorities dont have access to the definition?
Do you think you understand "insurrection" better than the authorities?
C'mon Dodgin' Dot prove me right for the thousandth time!

[Antknot]

[dot]

And there ya go, flat out lie yet again. Not a single one of you except Animal has done so, and all of you change the argument every time to charges filed. If you can't do it, just say so and take a seat, hack.

[Animal]

And there ya go, flat out lie yet again. Not a single one of you except Animal has done so, and all of you change the argument every time to charges filed. If you can't do it, just say so and take a seat, hack.

I am not attempting to shift the argument to charges filed, i am using these attorney's and prosecutors and judges decisions on the matter to give you some insight into the definition and what it actually means.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/j ... and-others

The politically driven January 6th Committee made some recommendations on what they "thought" Trump should be charged with after their hearings. The Pelosi nominated committee came up with the following list of crimes they wanted Trump charged with (their criminal referral):

1. Conspiracy to defraud the United States
2. Obstruction of an official proceeding of Congress
3. Conspiracy to make a false statement.
4. Aiding an Insurrection.

While a criminal referral is mostly symbolic, with the Justice Department ultimately deciding whether to prosecute Trump.

Now, that was their wish list. Now, after the DOJ got their referral and findings, what did they charge Trump with?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/latest-federa ... =101918701

Trump was charged, by the DOJ, with four counts:

1. Conspiracy to defraud the United States
2. Conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding
3. Obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding and
4. Conspiracy against rights.

The DOJ never even used the term "insurrection" in any of their findings. MYTH BUSTED!!

[Antknot]

Republicans recover over 100 files deleted by Jan. 6 committee days before GOP took majority: Report


https://justthenews.com/government/cong ... s-gop-took

[dot]

I am not attempting to shift the argument to charges filed

Sorry, dress it up however you want to, but if your end result is going to be arguing what charges were filed, then that's what you're changing the argument to. You briefly had the right track in arguing what the insurrection was, and bless your fraud addled brain, you even attempted to argue it wasn't an insurrection using a different more complex definition of the word. The problem is in the end, it still boils down to it was in fact an insurrection even by your agreed upon standard, which I showcased. Your transitive argument of whether charges were filed or not does not erase the crime's existence, see subpoenas defied. Therefore, if what you insist on going with is what charges were filed, then you're intentionally not arguing about what took place that day and only with what repercussions were sought. That's not the argument, never was, despite repeated attempts to distract and deflect. Either argue what happened that day was not an insurrection, or that the word itself is incorrectly defined. If you fail that, your premise is wrong. Try again.

The politically driven January 6th Committee made some recommendations on what they "thought" Trump should be charged with after their hearings. The Pelosi nominated committee came up with the following list of crimes they wanted Trump charged with (their criminal referral):

Just as an afterthought, bitch please, politically driven? In a world of Benghazi special committees and impeaching Joe Biden for Hunter Biden's crimes with zero connective evidence, the January 6 committee is impeccable by comparison. And mind you, the majority of testimony taken in by your "politically driven" committee came from Republican officials or supporters. It's not like this was a spate of liberal activists or conspiracy theorists twisting the events of the insurrection. It was people with eyes and ears on the ground and behind the scenes that day from Trump's team and those he was trying to coerce or incite, with a sprinkling of the collateral damage his attempted coup caused around his plans.